Last one out of the linebacker room turn off the light.
No way! Just not possible that someone would like to leave the 6th place in the east Wolverines. Right, Dick Snow? :)
What's the count? 18?
I used to like you. Now you just fucking suck.
Dude only was a real insider for a year when he endowed John O’Korn’s scholly. Now he’s just a bitter old guy on message boards since he got cut off. Sad!
He was a cool dude when I met him in Bloomington in 2015, that’s when he told me about JOK. That’s why he was legit when the Speight news broke. We were always cool on here, until he replied to me with his burner account and was outed by the board; now he’s always an ass to everything I post.
For the last time I don't have a burner account
Soo well played.
Thanks Chernobyl. Another solid, very specific, insider tip from you.
“Not great not terrible”
Yeah its not like the position he was recruited for is no longer a position on Michigans defense lol
Wheeler fell behind his own classmates and at least Junior Colson but this is a sign of the program being weak? Just go away again.
I'm curious, if umbig11 was given the keys to the program, what meaningful changes would he make besides firing Harbaugh.
A lot of the same moves everyone of us here, with no access and no knowledge, would make.
What happened to you.
What a life to live to feel the need to go on a message board for your own team unprompted and act like a dick.
“Act”?
Was the original umbig11 murdered and replaced by a talking pile of sh**?
That sounds like the weirdest "Law & Order" episode ever.
You're weird
A couple of things.
1. I'm pretty sure we had a scholarship count issue, and needed someone to leave....if we had any chance to sign Toia.
2. The transfer portal is not just a Michigan thing. It's also not some sort of indicator of failure. Oklahoma has had 18 players enter the transfer portal, since the end of last season. Oklahoma is one of the top 5 programs in the country. Are you going to sit there and proclaim them as a failure, and players are rushing away from a "doomed program"? Let's just stop with all the comments declaring the transfers as some sort of "proof" to validate your negativity.
The average transfer count at SEC schools right now is 12. Michigan has 6 walk-ons in the portal. Most other schools have scholarship players who were recruited to start in the portal. So yes Michigan is at 18, but 6 are walk-ons. So 12 are scholarship athletes. Right in line with where the average SEC team is. As noted above Oklahoma had 18. Clemson has double digit transfers. Michigan is looking to bring in a transfer as well. Plus you always expect some guys to not fit in a new scheme/defense. So it’s not surprising that Michigan has lost some defenders this year.
When it happens to other schools, it's normal attrition in a COVID year. But when it happens to Michigan, it's a sign of the coming apocalypse, with Harbaugh mounted on a fire-breathing steed next to the Four Horsemen, flying over the charred remains of Ann Arbor.
That's according to the Book of Rainer Sabin, Doomsayer.
With Anthony Broome and 2/3 of the mgostaff at his side.
The Harbaughcalypse?
Pretty sure it has more to do with his classmates and now true freshmen passing him on the depth chart than it does anything else, including how Michigan finishes in the standings.
But hey, that would ruin your opportunity to be an ass
Ahhhh, here you are again. How did I know you would be here?
Actually, why are you still here? It’s getting a little pathetic by now. You don’t bring anything of value at all. Anything you’ve brought here over the last several years is stuff someone could have gotten from any one of the pay sites or Twitter. I guess this makes you feel like a big man? Idk.. just sad really.
I can’t say I’m sure at all why you’re still here while others who have done far less have been banned.
Here are the transfers.
Ramsey Baty - let's face it, you've never heard of him
Jordan Anthony - LB - Did he play?
Kyle McNamara - WR - Yeah, he didn't play
Osman Savage - LB - Did he play?
Willie Allen* - OT - Doesn't count
Charles Thomas - LB - Did he play?
Zach Carpenter - OG - Expected Starter, so maybe he was passed. This is 1 that hurts
Will Hart - Punter - So what. We have other Punters
Christian Turner - RB - We have a packed RB room, so something had to give. Stings to have a back with experience gone, but doesn't really hurt.
Adam Fakih - LB - You have never heard of him
Zach Charbonnet - RB - This stings. But will give our new guys a huge opportunity to advance and play.
Luiji Vilain - EDGE - Did he play much?
Dylan McCaffrey - QB - Probably should have chosen him over Milton, but who cares.
Ben VanSumeren - LB - I feel like every time he was in as an RB the play would NOT go well. More room for the next guy up.
Adam Shibley - LB - Walk on who should not have had as much playing time as he did. This should mean he's been passed on the depth chart.
Joe Milton - QB - One season was enough, we don't need the chaos of potentially having him next year.
Hunter Reynolds - CB - Passed on Depth Chart
William Mohan - LB - Probably passed on the depth chart
Giles Jackson - WR - This hurts. The guy was a huge UM recruiter and just left.
Gaige Garcia - RB - Was here to wrestle.
Cornell Wheeler - ILB - Passed on depth chart hopefully.
By my count, there are only a few substantial losses and a bunch of inexperienced players who are just being replaced with other inexperienced players in new recruits. So 20 actually.
With the covid year being a free year, something HAD to give.
I care that Milton played over Dylan.
Carpenter’s mom has lupus. He transferred to be closer to home.
His mother’s health ultimately made him decide that he needed to be closer to home regardless.
Carrie Carpenter has lupus, an autoimmune disease that is terrifying in normal times, but even more so in the midst of a global pandemic.
Bloomington to Cincinnati: 2 hours, 26 minutes
Ann Arbor to Cincinnati: 3 hours, 51 minutes
I'm not seeing a huge difference there. It's not like he was transferring from Oregon to Bloomington.
Odds are he just doesn't want to cause a poopstorm and call people out that he didn't like.
Or the odds could be that an hour and a half each way (3 hour round trip) IS a big deal? It would be for me if i was going home each weekend with a few sprinkled in within the week.
Places closer to Cincinnati than Bloomington:
Columbus, OH (Ohio State)
Lexington, KY (Kentucky)
Cincinnati, OH (Cincinnati)
Wasn't is basically all but said that he had issues with Coach Warinner or did I misread things.
You did not misread things.
Like I said, there are closer places to home than Bloomington, IN. It's merely a diversion to say it's closer to home.
The biggest loss by a long shot in that group is Alex VanSumeran....well maybe Carpenter.
Of that list, folks likely care about the following players leaving: Giles, Charbonnet, and Carpenter, perhaps Turner and McCaffrey as well, but neither showed much in their limited playing time.
Agreed. Charbonnet was good, but we have PLENTY of RB's that will need the ball. Same with Turner. McCaffrey I'm torn. Did Milton just really outplay him in camp? Giles hurts, same with Carpenter.
I really - REALLY - believe that the cheap target DCaff took against Wisconsin in 2019 all but ended his career at Michigan. I suspect he had replaced O'Korn for good in that game, until the injury knocked him out. By the time he was ready to go again, it was so late in the season that he just couldn't catch up on the field with the playbook and execution. For last year, I suspect the coaches saw a much stronger Milton playing well enough in practice, and figured him to be less prone to injury. The dice roll didn't work out...
We'll never know truth from all sides in this matter.
Valid. It was a dice roll that we will never know. I mean, I was one person who was asking for Milton over DCaff when we were all talking about it last year.
I’m so tired of seeing Wisconsin’s cheap head hunting.
Bitter, party of one, your table is ready.
Fun fact: this guy still negs every one of my comments even though we haven't interacted in like 3+ years. He's an odd duck to say the least.
Not too long ago I came here ONLY to see what umbig11 was posting. I don’t follow too much of the drama on this site but what in the hell happened that he turned like this? I genuinely hope umbig11 is mentally ok.
-1 Downvote. I figured you had so many that mine would get lost in the shuffle.
I personally wanted to let you know that I think you're a douche and would love to see ya leave.
You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain.
Getting passed by true freshman tends to make people reconsider their place on the team.
Wheeler redshirted his freshman season in 2020, so he’s only had fall practice last year and spring practice this year, yet he’s assuming his spot on the depth chart is determined before he’s gotten one snap in a game.
There’s this cool thing that college teams have called “spring practice.”
Not difficult for a hierarchy in practices to be determined. When younger players are getting more reps than you and are getting more reps with the 1s and 2s than you, it becomes pretty clear you’ve been passed.
I see you edited your comment, but point still remains. It’s easy to gather where you stand from practices. The guys in his own class were getting more reps and hype than him. Then a guy from the incoming class is getting more reps and hype than him. It’s not rocket science and I’m sure Wheeler had a good feel for where he stood.
Even if one assumes that depth charts in June are fixed and unchanging, he's one fall camp injury from being the first backup with four years of eligibility in front of him.
I know he was recruited by Brown, and if his strengths and attributes are not what the new coaches are looking for I can understand his desire to transfer, but has that been established? Or is he not willing to stick it out at Michigan in the belief he'll be an instant starter elsewhere?