[Patrick Barron]

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Brian November 21st, 2022 at 11:44 AM

11/19/2022 – Michigan 19, Illinois 17 – 11-0, 8-0 Big Ten

Blake Corum got a screen, and he got blocking. Colston Loveland wiped a guy. Olu Oluwatimi harassed the nearest safety until he could only desperately chase Corum down the sideline. He lined up for an ankle tackle that probably wasn't going to work. It didn't work. Corum… ran out of bounds.

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What? How? What? In the stands I assumed that what I saw is not actually what I saw. In the press box the announcers were so baffled that they didn't even mention it. But in this Zapruder dawn a couple days later we can process the event: Blake Corum just daintily pranced out of bounds because of the vague idea that an Illinois safety might contact him, from behind, maybe.

div/0 fatal error

Correction: div/0, near fatal error.

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The thing is: Corum did this on his first carry, too.

JJ McCarthy is out there getting lit up because he thinks it's the Big Ten championship game and instead of using that Corum just heads out of bounds, with no impact from a defender at all. Here's a picture of McCarthy dying inside.

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"ow" –McCarthy [Barron]

I have seen Blake Corum run the ball enough to know this is not a usual event, and I have seen Michigan games under Jim Harbaugh where the opponent is not given much respect. Earlier this year McCarthy was bailing to the sideline on QB keepers even when this made little sense. I know "save hits where you can" is a philosophy this program employs, but to apply it to Corum, who's coming off a 29-carry day against Nebraska? This was the grand bull-moose of all such disrespect events.

Sorry, Sparty. You're not even the most disrespected team in the league anymore.

You just have to wonder: Schoonmaker, Morris, and Jones all warmed up but did not play. (Jones did get in on a goal-line package.) Keegan and Edwards were in street clothes but had no lower body issues, as your author observed pre-game. AJ Henning was mysteriously absent. Corum re-entered for two plays in the second half and then sat out the rest of the game. Even deep into the second half Illinois was sitting on a lead and Michigan didn't unearth any of the guys who were close enough to health to warm up. Exactly how much focus was placed on the Ohio State game over the past week, month, and year, and how much of this game was a big ol' game of chicken with the Buckeyes?

Probably a lot, and judging by results around the country Michigan was far from alone. Ohio State was in a three-point game with Maryland with six minutes left; they got outgained for the third time in four weeks. Tennessee got ambushed by South Carolina. USC's defense went from mostly notional to an astral presence trying to affect anything in the real world. Even mighty Georgia slopped their way to a 16-6 win over Kentucky. The entirety of the college football world was just trying to scrape by on the penultimate weekend of the regular season.

I kind of hate this approach because it leads to things like this game and, more egregiously, last year's Rutgers outing. It feels like the finger of the football gods passing judgment on you when Corum gets bashed in the knee during the game where it seems like he's been instructed to avoid getting bashed in the knee whenever possible. It feels bad, man.

But we've been here long enough to know that whatever Michigan looks like in the games where they're just trying to get to The Game isn't what they look like against Ohio State. This team has had the luxury of a lot of opponents they could get away with powerfully disrespecting; hopefully they have used that time to prepare a veritable smorgasbord of pain for OSU.

Decks are clear. Armageddon is a go. Break them.

AWARDS

Known Friends and Trusted Agents Of The Week

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[Bryan Fuller]

you're the man now, dog-2535ac8789d1b499[1]

#1 Uh, Well, Still Blake Corum. If you are personally responsible for 150 yards of offense in a half of play and generate a lot of that yourself you still end up here. Even if you probably should have been responsible for 200.

#2 Mason Graham. Graham didn't get starters snaps but was the dude making short-yardage stops repeatedly as Jenkins and Smith had some issues. Four total tackles vastly underestimates his performance.

#3 Jake Moody. Nice having the reigning Groza winner at your service in a game you win by kicking four field goals. Winner was straight down the pipe, and he converted one into the heavy, swirling wind.

Honorable mention: Ronnie Bell battled with Witherspoon all day and came up with a key punt return. Colston Loveland had three catches and should have had at least five.

KFaTAotW Standings.

(points: #1: 8, #2: 5, #3: 3, HMs one each. Ties result in somewhat arbitrary assignments.)

51: Blake Corum (#2 CSU, #2 Hawaii, HM UConn, #1 Maryland, #2 Iowa. HM Indiana, T2 PSU, #1 MSU, T1 Rutgers, #3 Nebraska, #1 Illinois)
23: The Offensive Line (#3 Iowa, #1 PSU, HM MSU, #3 Rutgers, #1 Nebraska)
21: JJ McCarthy (#1 Hawaii, #2 UConn, HM Maryland, HM Iowa, #3 Indiana, HM PSU, HM MSU. HM Rutgers)
18: Ronnie Bell (HM CSU, HM Hawaii, #1 UConn, #2 Indiana, HM PSU, HM Nebraska, HM Illinois)
17: Mike Morris (T3 Hawaii, HM Maryland, #1 Iowa, T1 Indiana, #3 PSU, HM Rutgers),
15:  Kris Jenkins (#3 UConn, T3 Hawaii, HM Iowa, T1 Indiana, #2 MSU, HM Rutgers, HM Nebraska)
14: Mazi Smith (#1 CSU, T3 Hawaii, HM Maryland, HM Iowa, HM MSU, HM Nebraska)
13: Mason Graham (HM Hawaii, HM Iowa, HM Indiana, #2 Nebraska, #2 Illinois)
9: Donovan Edwards (HM Hawaii, T2 PSU, T1 Rutgers)
7: Gemon Green (HM UConn, T2 Maryland, HM PSU), Jake Moody (HM PSU, #3 MSU, #3 Illinois).
5: DJ Turner (T2 Maryland), Junior Colson (#3 CSU, HM UConn, HM PSU), Luke Schoonmaker (T3 Maryland, HM Iowa, HM Indiana, HM MSU), Michael Barrett (#2 Rutgers).
4: Eyabi Okie (HM CSU, HM Iowa, T1 Indiana).
3: Derrick Moore (HM CSU, T1 Indiana), Jaylen Harrell (HM CSU, T1 Indiana), Rod Moore (HM CSU, HM Indiana, HM MSU)
2: Roman Wilson (HM CSU, HM Hawaii), Max Bredeson (T3 Maryland), Joel Honigford (T3 Maryland), Mike Sainristil (HM Maryland, HM Indiana)
1: Braiden McGregor (HM CSU), Makari Paige (HM Hawaii), Rayshaun Benny (HM Hawaii), Cornelius Johnson (HM Hawaii), , AJ Henning (HM UConn), Caden Kolesar (HM UConn), RJ Moten (HM Maryland), Will Johnson (HM Rutgers), CJ Stokes (HM Nebraska), Andrel Anthony (HM Nebraska), Colston Loveland (HM Illinois)

Who's Got It Better Than Us(?) Of The Week

Moody's field goal to win is right down the middle.

Honorable mention: Corum busts out on the first play from scrimmage; TD drive ensues from there. Bell's punt return sets Michigan up for a field goal. Graham stuffs a fourth and short.

image?MARCUS HALL EPIC DOUBLE BIRD OF THE WEEK.

Corum takes a helmet to the knee, causing him to (maybe) fumble and more or less knocking him out for the duration. Insult to injury.

Honorable mention: Brown bursts for a 37-yard touchdown that puts Michigan in its first second-half deficit since Penn State. Inexpicable Corum exit in game column. Garbage holding call brings back a 40 yard improv play to Wilson. Andrel Anthony drops a touchdown.

[After THE JUMP: broken passing game]

OFFENSE

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aaaaargh [Fuller]

What's wrong with the passing game? Yes. Well: at this point the passing game looks like it'll be the thing we're talking about in the aftermath of a competitive but doomed outing in Columbus. The receivers turned in three critical drops—one each from Wilson, Anthony, and Gash. The latter two were touchdowns (or close enough to bash in) that took 11 points off the board. Meanwhile McCarthy followed up a couple of those drops with passes airmailed over the heads of tight ends, the second one a boggling line-drive overthrow of a wide open Loveland.

Opportunities are not going to be that frequent against OSU, and way too many of them have looked like this of late:

Just misses, without even an opportunity to make a play on the ball. And then when there is a play on the ball we get the other side of aaargh.

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[Fuller]

Just have to hope this is a confluence of unfortunate events and that things will be instantly and painlessly fixed next week in the biggest game of their lives. Yeah, that's the ticket.

Not quite there on rollouts. One point to McCarthy for being able to escape this pressure up the gut, but when he rolls out he draw Loveland's defender but does not throw to Loveland:

Maybe you gotta Mahomes that and it goes badly but it's third and ten, that's time for the Mahomesening. McCarthy did manage that on a later improv opportunity:

That's the one that got called back on a holding call that is thoroughly horseshit. I'm not negging Zinter for that; it's a rollout on which he releases pretty much immediately when he realizes the DT is leaving, and there isn't even a noticeable yank back from the DL. Nobody would have noticed if the flag did not come out. FWIW, Illinois got hit with an equally horseshit holding call on the Brown run that got out to the 45 with about 40 seconds before the half.

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[Barron]

Loveland though. Colston Loveland is a "now" player. From last week's UFR:

It might be time to talk about Loveland in the present tense. Most discussion of him this season has focused on the future, stuff like "oh he's getting a lot of playing time he'll be an important piece next year," but he more than held his own as a blocker in this game and—while I am basing this largely on vibes at this point—he feels like an explosive downfield threat in a way that Schoonmaker is not.

Here he became Michigan's go-to guy down the stretch, with the above catch-and-run out of a mesh concept setting up Michigan close to field goal range; the same play was the argh coulda-shoulda third down that leads this section. He was also wide open on the Gash drop, causing my section to explode in anguish at WHY ARE YOU THROWING TO HIM WHEN YOU COULD THROW TO HIM; on the broadcast Blackledge is befuddled at how this guy is open on every play. He blocks well enough that you can't just go nickel when he's in the game and he's running contested comeback routes against safeties without an issue.

He's going to be a key piece in The Game.

What kind of defense? We have had many passive defenses this year. This was not one of them. Second and twelve? Let's send six guys, and we either get a TFL or a chunk:

Illinois spent a lot of the game in a six-man front and virtually the whole game with an extra guy in the box. They are the one team that was fully prepared to take on Michigan's murderball rushing outfit, probably because they are the one team on the schedule that can credibly claim to have an equivalent.

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free hitter going to make contact at the LOS [Fuller]

Approach: less than ideal. This is not going to be a good RPS outing for Michigan because they spent much of the day running into +1 boxes from Illinois and having their free hitters whack guys at or near the line of scrimmage. Sometimes this was fine because Corum made it fine or Illinois defenders checked McCarthy. Mostly it was not fine. You just cannot make a living running the ball against +1 in the box when the opposition assumes they have the cutback with the unblocked guy and can slant to the play:

That is a million percent RPS. I am about to get in some annoying arguments with folks who always take the side of coaches in these situations, but when Corum is trying to break the tackle of an unblocked backside DE your playcall failed. None of those blocks are miraculously going to be made.

Arc without the QB. On the other hand, this counter was pretty brilliant and took advantage of the crashing without exposing McCarthy:

There were a few things Michigan pulled out in this one in addition to this. They ran their first running back screens in I don't know how long and a bunch of crossing routes that got Loveland freed up repeatedly, and they had a couple of man beaters for their critical fourth downs.

On the controversial fourth down. I'm not sure what the deal is there. There was a previous completion to Loveland on which Loveland runs through very similar contact before breaking open:

If a guy jams you are you automatically committing OPI by trying to get off it? According to the rulebook… uh… yes.

V.. Before the ball is thrown, wide receiver A88 moves four yards downfield directly toward and in front of the defender, B1. At this spot, B1 pushes A88, who then uses his hands to contact B1. RULING: Team A foul, offensive pass interference, if the legal forward pass is beyond the neutral zone. Penalty—15 yards from the previous spot. VI.

This makes every attempt to get off a jam that uses your hands OPI. Obviously the game is not called like that. Players have leeway to run through defenders attempting to stall them out, like Loveland does on that play. Loveland did not come off the guy trying to jam him to hit the player in man coverage on Gash, which is something that (almost) always gets called. What actually happened is far more ambiguous, because who is blocking who?

I mean yeah: Loveland is blocking. Because of the context. But otherwise it's just two guys mutually fighting each other. Usually that gets let go. In conclusion, the NCAA rule book is insanely draconian about OPI and the result is anarchy.

I mean, maybe it was fine? Michigan was minus their top two backs, top two tight ends, and two starters on the OL. Isaiah Gash got a significant amount of run. Maybe in that context 376 yards of offense and five scoring drives isn't the worst thing in the world. Corum: 18 carries, 108 yards, 6.0 per. Not Corum RBs: 15 carries, 49 yards, 3.3 YPC. If Corum doesn't get knocked out, Michigan scores on that end of half drive and probably ends up scoring some variety of touchdown in the second half and we're not talking about a narrow escape at all.

DEFENSE

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Combined sacks in foreground of this picture: 2.5 [Barron]

Erp: concerns seemingly validated. We had some pass-rush avalanches earlier in the season that caused a bunch of folks to declare preseason worries overblown. Six days prior to The Game I think we can say that Michigan doesn't really have a complete defensive end. Harrell and Upshaw are the guys prophesied in the season preview: good run defenders, responsible, not going to tear off the edge. Okie/McGregor/Moore have flashed against weaker lines but haven't put up much of anything against the reasonably competent.

Related: chaos? Nope. Michigan turned in an alarmingly havoc-free day against Illinois, with one TFL and one pass breakup. DeVito was not sacked and was rarely pressured at all. No Mike Morris is a factor, but this is not an offensive line with a stellar pass protection record—they're solid but only that. Michigan's attempts to get near him were almost universally defeated, with a notable fourth down exception coming when the guard across from Taylor Upshaw didn't have the snap count.

DTs: tested. Illinois was the first team on the schedule to really go after M DTs with double teams and the had a fairly good success rate on them:

It should be noted this is the opposite of the Illinois approach where they always have a free guy in the box. Michigan spent almost the entirety of this game playing soft and asking their front six to make plays. They did a fairly good job outside of the 37-yard run given up to Chase Brown, and that was on Barrett and Upshaw more than any DT—Upshaw in particular just failed to retrace at all on a play where he should be able to get in a tackle attempt.

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gone but not forgotten [Fuller]

MOVE! Don Brown is coaching UMass now but that doesn't mean he's entirely gone from Michigan. After a timeout on a pivotal fourth and one Michigan went with the ol' Don Brown MOVE call:

Not technically illegal, the best kind of illegal.

Monster in the making. Mason Graham made what was maybe the play of the day on an early fourth and one:

He keeps popping up in places; he should have drawn a couple different holding calls far more severe than the Zinter incident. Right now he's sort of eating these some of the time. With some development he'll go from losing out on plays because he's being held to making plays despite being held.

ARO defeated. I did enjoy Michigan's comprehensive defeat of America's Rollout Out, a play so commonplace on third down that I started labeling it "America's [Blank]" more than a decade ago. It just works, over and over, and so for Michigan to delete it like this is a pleasant departure:

Illinois did not cope with similar plays well because they're so heavy on man to man. Michigan has departed from that plane of existence.

SPECIAL TEAMS

I don't like it. Finally I preview a team and find out their punter is sort of butt, so of course his first effort is a 64-yard blast that settles down at the three. I disapprove of this. At least his other punts were pretty thoroughly butt, including a shank and the final one that set Michigan up at the 48. That probably wasn't due to the wind, judging by the flagpole at that moment. It was just a 30 yard punt.

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[Fuller]

I do like it. Gonna be weird when Jake Moody isn't here anymore. Ditto Robbins. The Robbins/Moody era stretches back decades and is known as the Pax Specialistica in textbooks. At some point Tommy Doman is going to miss a 34 yarder and I'm going to crawl into a hole and die.

Well, Ronnie, okay then. One Ronnie Bell punt return served up at a crucial time, although it was not—as Sean McDonough claimed—Michigan's longest of the year. It was Bell's, because Henning is the punt returner.

MISCELLANEOUS

Same Ol' Bert. Bielema chased the officials across the field so he could scream at them:

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Then he retweeted the Illini equivalent of @GoBlue69420 bitching about the fourth down conversion. My rhetorical policy going forward here is 1) yes it's rigged, 2) STFU and cash your check unless you want to be in a conference with Idaho.

Yeah, kick the field goal on fourth and eleven. I punched the numbers into an NFL fourth down calculator:

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This was my instinct live as well, because the field goal is obviously very useful and converting a fourth and eleven is ~20%.

Also, yes, take the penalty on the Illinois drive. The fourth down calculator also comes up with "go for it" on a hypothetical fourth and one, and there was approximately a 100% chance that Bielema would have gone for it as a three-score underdog with a mashing ground game. I love me some Mason Graham but not enough to roll those dice.

Slightly more dubious, but, yeah don't settle. Michigan got the ball down to the 22 after a Witherspoon PI on Bell and had 47 seconds and no timeouts. They elected to continue attempting to gain yardage despite having a 39 yarder in their pocket. Johnson caught a ball for five yards on second down, which got reviewed and (inexplicably) upheld, so Michigan had another shot; McCarthy attempted a back shoulder fade that got knocked down.

Michigan's other options were immediate turtle or running on second down and then spiking the ball. I don't like immediate turtle even with Moody, but a second down run is probably fine. I don't think the margins here move much.

HERE

Best and Worst:

Best:  11-0

I’ll spend time this diary discussing all that went wrong in this game but up top we have to recognize that Michigan is 11-0 for the first time since 2006 and assured of back-to-back 11+ win seasons for the first time since Fielding Yost roamed the sideline and everyone played football with 26-year-old dock workers and meat packers smoking pipes and popping cocaine-laced throat drops at halftime.  Now, on the one hand this isn’t as uncommon as you may think, as schools as diverse as Alabama, Oklahoma, Clemson, and OSU to Michigan State (Dantonio was and remains an asshole but the man can coach), Penn State (during the Frames era), and even old nemesis App St. have accomplished this feat this century.  In fact, over a dozen teams have accomplished this feat since 2000.  But Michigan hadn’t until now, and considering how many people were ready to dump Harbaugh in the Huron River after 2020 to be back to this level of dominance is truly amazing and should be cherished.

State of Our Open Threads:

After a rather long stretch of somewhat depressed participation, which can be attributed to things like the site format and the widely accepted idea that the open threads for football games are a cesspool of negativity even during comfortable games, we finally managed to generate a performance which rivaled some of the threads of seasons past - very large, very negative, even despairing despite the win in the end. Just like old times indeed. …

Let's look at fucks given, for starters:

This is not an error - there really were 406 fucks given yesterday, which far and away tops the 251 that we gave for the Indiana game. There were two major contributors to this, and I am sure you would guess what they are - the passing offense being very, well, frightening and Blake's apparent injury, which we now know was not all that bad, but even so, they still held him out in the second half, which I am sure many of us would have done.

Comments

dragonchild

November 21st, 2022 at 12:17 PM ^

For once I think Moody should've topped the KFaTAotW, though, and it's not just feels from getting the last one.  Corum was awesome when he was out there, but they shelved him for more than a half so Michigan basically had to win without him.  Moody went 4/4 on a windy day and if he missed even one, Michigan loses the game.

It's easy to take perfection for granted, but I feel that that's the worst way to treat it.  Moody didn't win the Groza by being automatic; he only made it look automatic.

P.S. Also consider that Harbaugh and Brian agreed that the third FG was the right call because of the math.  But why was the math like that?  Because Moody.  His presence changed the game theory for Michigan.  I remember some Michigan seasons when two FGAs for the win was not a reasonable decision.  In this game at least, Michigan went "well we have Moody" just like "well we have Woodson".

Harbaugh4TheWin

November 21st, 2022 at 2:11 PM ^

I could not agree more.  Your observation:  "Moody didn't win the Groza by being automatic; he only made it look automatic" couldn't have been more astute.

This was Moody's record-setting day.  I love me some Shake 'n Blake, but Moody also scored more points than Corum (13-6) with his clutch performance.  This was his game.  And did I mention, I love me some Shake 'n Blake? 

Go Blue! 

 

DetroitDan

November 21st, 2022 at 2:17 PM ^

Michigan State missed a 28 yard FG to win the game Saturday! (okay, it was blocked, and we've also had one blocked this yeaer, but this is fun to point out nevertheless)

EDIT: I overestimated MSU's FG unit.  They actually missed a 22 yarder to end regulation and send the game to OT.  The blocked 28 yarder was in OT.

befuggled

November 21st, 2022 at 6:19 PM ^

I have memories of Bryan Virgil seared into my brain.

(Context for the youngins: in 1979, Michigan lost four games, all by three or fewer points, all involving some kind of kicking problem: blocked field goals, missed field goals, blocked punts, and missed extra points. Poor Bryan Virgil was both the punter and the placekicker that year.) 

DennisFranklinDaMan

November 22nd, 2022 at 7:26 AM ^

Right on, dragonchild. I was thinking the same thing, on both issues.

On the podcast Brian insisted kicking the third field goal was the obvious choice, comparing the chance of converting a fourth-and-11 to being able to hold Illinois to three-and-out and then getting the ball back. But he forgot to mention that the latter choice also required Moody to make both field goals. In other words, yes, the chances of converting fourth-and-11 are slim -- but if they do convert it they (essentially) win the game. And even if they miss, they could still hold Illinois to three-and-out and get another try.

Instead, they chose the option of field-goal-attempt, hold Illinois to three-and-out, then field-goal-attempt.

Their choice worked -- and I supported it at the time -- but it was hardly a no-brainer, and the only reason it seemed so reasonable was that we essentially take Moody for granted. 

If there was ever a game where he deserved No.1 in the KFaTAotW rankings, this was it. He's the best at his possession, IMO, Michigan has ever had. I don't think that about Corum, or anyone else on this team, as good as they are. Hard to believe we're still overlooking him.

stephenrjking

November 21st, 2022 at 1:35 PM ^

My take on our chances is entirely emotional: I lean pessimistic. I can tell you some reasons why but it’s mostly noise at this point. When Alex posts his write-ups that make OSU look terrifying I will produce more reasoned and systematic takes for why I am pessimistic, but that is still just me looking on the pessimistic side.

I can envision a likely scenario in which Michigan wins and a scenario in which Michigan loses. They’re both realistic, in keeping with the established characteristics of both teams. My prediction then comes from my predisposition to expect the worst.

When I’m right, I’m prepared. When I’m wrong, I have no less of a good time being wrong.

I will say that there are potential problems for Michigan, but also real strengths to be confident in. This team is indeed built in a way that optimizes its matchup with Ohio State.

YMMV. 

J. Redux

November 21st, 2022 at 9:23 PM ^

They also have future NFL tackles at guard.  Minter may dial up an A-gap blitz or two.  That’s one of the advantages of the amoeba defense when it’s fully activated — the defense can generally choose where to attack.

Michigan seems very unlikely to get pressure with 4 this year like they did last year.  They’re going to have to bring 5 or even 6, which means OSU may break some big plays — or Michigan may make some big stops.

When you’re the underdog, sometimes variance is your friend.

Yeoman

November 21st, 2022 at 6:26 PM ^

The last time the team with more rushing yards lost the game was in 2000 .

During that span these teams lost with more passing yards:

  • 2021 OSU 297-64
  • 2017 M 195-124
  • 2016 M 219-124
  • 2015 M 307-113
  • 2014 M 251-183
  • 2013 M 451-133
  • 2011 OSU 250-170
  • 2009 M 234-104
  • 2007 M 102-50
  • 2004 M 339-241
  • 2003 OSU 329-278
  • 2002 M 247-124
  • 2001 M 206-118

Lots of different coaches and styles in that span, but teams with more rushing yards were 20-0 while teams with more passing yards were 7-13.

Durham Blue

November 21st, 2022 at 10:02 PM ^

These stats are insane.  I think the same pretty much holds true against MSU.  There might be an outlier or two in there because of stupid Mork bullshit.  It'd be interesting to look at this same stat against Notre Dame as well.  But the fact remains that in Michigan's biggest rivalry games over many, many years, if you can out rush them then chances are you are going to win.

M_Born M_Believer

November 22nd, 2022 at 10:58 AM ^

Not to mention Jake Long.  I was at that game, Sweater Vest knew that we couldn't do anything on offense and install the most boring offensive game plan.  Yet they still needed a BS non call late in the 4th quarter to pull out the win - OSU WR ran out of bounds on a deep route came back in and made the catch inside the 10 yard line.  Leading to the go ahead score.

That was my number 1 BS call/non call til 2016 and we don't speak of that fiasco

dragonchild

November 21st, 2022 at 12:10 PM ^

I kind of hate this approach because it leads to things like this game and, more egregiously, last year's Rutgers outing. It feels like the finger of the football gods passing judgment on you when Corum gets bashed in the knee during the game where it seems like he's been instructed to avoid getting bashed in the knee whenever possible. It feels bad, man.

I agree in sentiment but I feel like it's a necessity.  Fans have made it abundantly clear that Harbaugh needs to spend the whole season preparing for OSU because that's what OSU does to us.

Well, unfortunately, this is what it looks like.  It takes strategy to win The Game, which involves strategic retreats in the face of an inferior opponent.  It felt like Harbaugh was emotionally prepared to sacrifice this game to beat OSU.  It's bad for the fans who paid to watch Michigan vs. Illinois, but he's tried the "go all out, all year" approach only to get blasted out of the stadium by OSU's cult-like obsession with beating Michigan.  It does feel bad, but I can't fault the guy for doing what fans screamed for him to do.

gbdub

November 21st, 2022 at 12:25 PM ^

At some point though, "keep it on the shelf" ends up being counterproductive. On the podcast, Brian pointed out that JJ is looking pretty bad on QB runs, and a lot of that has to be on how few live-fire reps he has. It's not realistic to never run something for 11 games and then expect to pull it out and execute at a high level just because it's The Game. 

dragonchild

November 21st, 2022 at 12:33 PM ^

I don't buy it.  If this was true, every first game of the season would be a M00N game.

At most I'll concede that it's difficult to learn something against different looks if you don't have your opponents chip in the learning process, but Illinois wasn't going to do anything OSU was gonna do, so that's just wasted reps.  (Of course, calling a conference opponent "wasted reps" is the ultimate disrespect but to come full circle, Michigan was deliberately looking past Illinois.)

gbdub

November 21st, 2022 at 2:09 PM ^

I mean, teams do kinda look like crap, generally speaking, in the first game of the season. It's not M00N because the defense is also fresh out of camp.

Practice isn't the same thing as games, or Joe Milton would have multiple Heismans. 

This isn't "exotic looks from the defense" stuff, this is "JJ doesn't know how to set up and run behind his blocking at even a rudimentary level right now because he clearly hasn't seen it much" stuff. Practice is going to be of limited utility for this because if they are coaching him not to take hits against Illinois, they sure as hell aren't letting him take real hits in practice. 

It's also just generally hard to spend 3 months building up a habit and then have to wipe out that habit in a week. 

gbdub

November 21st, 2022 at 2:15 PM ^

It depends - if it's an obvious constraint to a base play, OSU isn't stupid, they are going to practice for it. Michigan did not totally befuddle PSU by passing out of pistol. You may as well get the live reps, get it on film (and oh yeah, make it easier to win the first 11 games).

If it's a truly novel tendency breaker, that you're actually confident you can execute well the first time you try it live, sure, save it up. 

To some degree I'm not even talking about calling novel plays though. For example, JJ is not great at selling live mesh points and he's physically talented but mentally not there yet as a runner. This would almost certainly be better if he did it more often and had more of the invaluable feedback of real game experience and film. The coaches can set up a great play, but if JJ brain farts it because he's never tried it in a game before, he's not going to get everything out of the play call. 

Cmknepfl

November 21st, 2022 at 2:23 PM ^

Also, there is a difference between never doing something and doing it less than you would otherwise.  I agree that there is some cost to not playing every game like it is the superbowl, even though they claim thats how they treat it, I observe them doing it from an effort and preparation standpoint not from a strategic standpoint.  Where is the correct mix, I dont know.  One measure though is that you are able to hold a lot back and still get to the game 11-0.  They have done that, so really we should be very happy, provided there is some 2017 OSU Game scheming combined with our now on par talent.  

I do think they have 8-12 pass  plays that have been repped a lot that JJ loves and is comfortable with that are specifically for OSU.  I also think that they have counters to all of the things defenses have shown success with against us this year.  I was super confident that UM was going to win this game and it has only reduced due to the fact I am not sure about Corum, he seems fine, but what makes him great is that last 5% of wiggle and shiftiness that he has.  Thats why elite RBs in the NFL turn into pumpkins when they are 28.  Its hardly noticable.  Pressure on Stroud truly is going to decide this game.  

 

Also aren't we due for a +3 TO game, one time?

LeCheezus

November 21st, 2022 at 12:28 PM ^

This was very similar to some Tressel era games (Purdue was one I specifically recall) where the only reasonable explanation for extremely conservative play calling and uninspiring play against an inferior opponent was “They spent the week practicing for Michigan.”  I think Tressel’s record in the game also supports this narrative.

matty blue

November 21st, 2022 at 12:33 PM ^

i completely and utterly agree, except for the "too bad for fans that had to watch in person" thing.  a win is a win is a win, even when it's a dicey one.  i'll remember this game - and fondly - as one where our guys gritted it out, shorthanded, and came through when it mattered.

if we had to choose an edgy win over an easy one...and it gave us even a marginally better chance to win against those fuckheads from columbus?  sign me up, every time.

HollywoodHokeHogan

November 21st, 2022 at 12:58 PM ^

That makes a lot of sense for holding guys out; I worry that asking guys to play in a manner that isn’t usual for them is not worth the reward.  I can see not running the QB a ton or changing play calling, but athletes are a habitual lot.  Asking them to play at 85% when they’ve been drilled to go 110% can be problematic and your only very marginally reducing the risk of injury (as we saw). So if that’s what happened (we can only guess), I can see it being a problem. 

dragonchild

November 21st, 2022 at 2:03 PM ^

It's actually very easy to ask athletes to downshift; they do it all the time in practice.  Also, I doubt it'll be difficult to get them amped up for The Game.

If anything I think the main concern is getting the yips, but we've seen this team rally in times of adversity this season, so the worst of that may be behind us.  Ohio State is once again a machine of death, and this time they won't be flat-footed, but I can more easily stomach a loss if at least the team doesn't punch itself in the face.

HollywoodHokeHogan

November 21st, 2022 at 2:36 PM ^

I don't think asking them to downshift for a game is anything like the difference between playing and practicing (most aren't used to going near 100% in a practice, unlike in games; practice speed is a habit for them), but my worry wasn't getting amped up for the game this weekend. My worry was more that you ask for 85% or whatever but you get a bunch of mistakes  and then a game that you should easily win at 85% is a mess.  It was worry about repeating the strategy over the long term.  I won't impact them this week at all.

BlueintheLou

November 21st, 2022 at 1:50 PM ^

Does nobody remember how badly we looked in 2006 against the Ball State Testicles? We almost lost that game, and then came back the next week and played in maybe one of the finest games of this millenium (sad, sad loss). This was that (against a far better opponent), and hopefully we're ready to come back with the fire of 1,000 suns next week. 

Go Blue. Beat Ohio.

ahw1982

November 21st, 2022 at 3:51 PM ^

It's going to be more common when the playoffs expand and more teams will be in position like this (locked status in both conference championship and CFP) to be playing relatively meaningless games at this point in the season and protecting their starters for more important matchups in the future.

It's not going to be quite as bad as the final regular season week in the NFL, but it'll be closer.

schreibee

November 22nd, 2022 at 12:22 AM ^

In the hypothetical world of this 12-team playoff, Michigan (and osu) would have an immense amount to play for in these penultimate games - namely a bye, or maybe home field in the 1st round.

Losing to Illinois AND osu could drop Michigan from a 2-3 seed to a 9-10 seed, depending on how other games turned out. Whereas losing only at osu would still virtually guarantee a home game at worst. 

goblue2121

November 21st, 2022 at 12:11 PM ^

Hoping Mike Morris is close to 100%. He's a game changer and this game showed just how critical his skillset is to M having a dominant defense. He should play on Sunday's for a long time if health allows.