Utah Postgame Presser: Brady Hoke Comment Count

Adam Schnepp

Hoke presser 2

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News bullets and other items:

  • Hoke thinks ball security is their biggest issue
  • The starting quarterback against Minnesota will be determined during the week via competing and challenging
  • Jourdan Lewis’ cross-field rundown that saved a touchdown was compared to a similar play Woody Hankins made in 1996 against Ohio State. The coaches show the team the Hankins play every season.

Opening remarks:

“Obviously very disappointed with the outcome of the game. I thought our kids came out very ready to play. I thought that they demonstrated that the first drive down the field and I think the defense, what they did early in the football game, was indicative of how they prepared, how they practiced, and how they got ready to play the game.

“I think obviously you have a punt return against you for a touchdown. Anything in the kicking game is momentum and we had some momentum and then we give up the touchdown on the punt return, which is very disappointing.

“You look at, from a standpoint of taking care of the football- you know, and we’ve talked a lot about that. Probably more than I would’ve liked to or you would like to talk about it but that’s one thing we’ve got to do a better job of and that’s constantly coached and we talk about it and sometimes those things happen and we’ve got to make sure we’re going back to work, working hard on it and we can’t have that happen through the Big Ten season.

“We talked as a team afterwards about what we need to do and I reminded them of the 1998 team, which was a team that went to Notre Dame- I was part of that team- and lost and then lost here at home against Syracuse and then went off and won the Big Ten or a part of the Big Ten championship. Those goals, our goals, are all out there. And I do believe we have a team that can do that. Now, you can’t play the way we did today and do that. We realize that. But we’ve got a bunch of guys in that locker room who every day work their tails off and are supportive and believe in each other.”

 

Brady, after a game like this when you pulled your quarterback and the score was what it was what do you see and why do you believe you can contend in the Big Ten this year?

“Yeah, and that’s a great question but I think the one thing I have that you don’t is I’m with this group of young men every day, these kids. I know how they go to work. There’s some things we did very well today. We did some things not as well as we needed to. And we’ve got to improve on that. We’ve got to go back to work. It starts with me as the head football coach. It starts with the assistants [and] everyone who’s in Schembechler Hall. We’ve got to do a better job for those kids.”

The incident on the sidelines with you and Greg Mattison right before or right after the penalty, was that a little loss of control there? What was that?

“Well, I’ve known Greg since 1984 and I can guarantee you that that wasn’t the first time two competitive men have had a- I wouldn’t even call it an argument.”

/smiles

“Did I finish that? Sounded like it. Discussion. You ought to see us play euchre. We really have discussions.”

[More after THE JUMP]

The turnovers in the second half obviously were a problem, but in the first half you only had one turnover at the end and still it seemed like finishing drives was the problem. Talk about the need to be able to finish drives.

“Yeah, there’s no question that that’s one thing- we start a drive, we have some success with it, we get a sack and so we’re behind the sticks again and you don’t like to play offense that way. We had a penalty that put us back, and so we’ve just got to finish those drives. First drive of the game, really the execution and what was going on was good but we settled for three points. Great kick by Matt [Wile], good to see it from him obviously but we want seven points, not three points.”

 

What’s the plan at quarterback at this point?

“I think, number one, it’s way too early for me to assess that until Doug and myself and we look at the tape and all that stuff. The one thing I can tell you is sometimes it’s good for a guy to come out and just watch and see what he can see from the sidelines and look at rotations of coverages maybe from that standpoint. There’s not going to be any answers to that tonight. We will compete and challenge like we have everyday and we will have a starting quarterback against Minnesota.”

 

In your two losses the team hasn’t reached the red zone. How much of an overhaul or how much change needs to happen with the offense?

“Say that one more time.”

In the two losses you guys haven’t reached the red zone with your offense. How much of a change, how much of an overhaul has to happen or are you kind of going with the plan you have at this point?

“Well, I don’t think there has to be an overhaul. I think our execution- you know, the little things that we need to do, and again that starts here, and we’ve got to do a better job of it. I have a lot of faith in those guys on the field.”

 

How tough is it to hear people complaining about the state of the program? In your estimation-

“You know what I don’t like? Those are 18 to 22 year olds. That’s what I don’t like. That’s fine, and I know they buy tickets and they’re more [than] welcome to do it but they’re 18 to 22. Yeah, they’re out there but they’re students. They’re student-athletes and believe me, they’re working their tails off. If they’re all for me [Ed: the boos], good. I don’t have a problem with that at all.”

 

Coach, can you talk about their first drive of the second half and some of the adjustments and what happened there?

“I wish I could tell you exactly what happened. We were very disappointed in that drive though. I mean, that’s not the way we wanted to start the second half. A couple under routes on third down. We didn’t execute as well as we needed to. I think the pace- I know on one play we just got set [and] we weren’t all the way where we needed to be. That drive bothers us and bothers me.”

And the big play in the first half, the passing play. Was that a lack of communication in the secondary?

“No. It wasn’t a lack of communication, we just didn’t execute.”

 

Brady, can you take us inside the locker room during the 2.5 hour delay? What did you guys talk about and what was your goal coming out with just seven minutes and change left in the game?

“Well, the goal is to win. And so that’s why we come back out. And to compete. In the locker room, I think sometimes- and we had the one a couple years ago against Western Michigan and I think we went back out and played and came back in so you have a little bit of an idea about it but this was a long one. We tried to- we fed the kids a little bit. They ate some stuff that’s good for them to eat so that they can go out and play. They relaxed. You know, they all have iPads these days so some of them relaxed, especially when we knew that it was going to be an hour and a half [or] two hours, and then we came together. We had a great plan for warm ups and what we did there and really they were excited to get back on the field.”

 

Brady, you mentioned little things that are kind of keeping this team from turning the corner. That’s been a consistent deal, the little things. Why can’t this team seem to find the inches there?

“Well, the only thing I can tell you is we’ve got to keep working at it. We’ve got to keep working at it.”

Is there any one area in particular there that…

“I think the ball security issues are probably our biggest issue when you look at it overall. The secondary- you know, Jourdan Lewis played his tail off today. May have played his best game and if you don’t write about the play he made to keep them out of the end zone then you don’t know anything about the game because that effort that he made from all the way across the field- I can remember Woody Hankins did that down at Ohio in 1996. Kept them to a field goal and that was a 13-9 game. We show that clip every year of a backside corner doing that and that’s what he did.”

 

Talk about the anticipation Willie Henry had on his pick and that play and the momentum it gave you.

“Well, Willie will tell you he probably diagnosed it but I think Willie popped out, did a nice job, got his hands up. Willie’s a pretty athletic 305-pounder. It was a good football play. I don’t know what else to say about it. He made a good football play and that’s what you talk about- if you’re not to the quarterback get your hand up and he got his hand up and did a nice job.”

 

And you mentioned Jourdan, but Jake [Ryan] also…

“Well, Jake, I don’t know the final statistics tackle-wise but he’s a football player. I think he’s adjusted well to playing inside linebacker.”

 

Brady, how much of a concern is the pass protection? It looked like they were able to get pressure quite a bit just rushing four.”

“You know, I thought our quarterback stepped up- sometimes on pass protection when the ends are going up the field sometimes you feel like, boy, they’re getting closer but there was a pocket in there the majority of the time. Not all the time. Obviously when you’ve got four sacks you’re not excited about it totally but I thought there was some good things in the protection and I thought Devin had a chance and Shane had a chance to step up.”

 

Brady, after the Notre Dame game you fully endorsed Devin Gardner. Are you saying now that the position is open, that it’s up for grabs?

“I don’t think I said that. I said we’ll have a quarterback for the Minnesota game and we’ll assess where we’re at right now and we’ll compete and challenge all week.”

But you had said then that Devin was your quarterback. You’re not saying that right now though.

“Well, I don’t always say the same things, do I?”

No, you don’t but Shane came in-

“We’ll see what happens. I think that’s the best way to put it.”

 

My other question is what is your level of concern with the offense right now?

“I’m concerned about everything that we’re doing. Do we want to be better offensively? Yeah, no question. Do we want to score points? That’s part of the game and what we want to do so am I concerned? We need to play better. We’ve got to make sure we execute better.”

Comments

mtzlblk

September 21st, 2014 at 5:37 PM ^

not really slamming Hoke, but the press conferences at this point are insipid. pointless regurgitation of the same themes and standard responses to obvious questions...I could probably script them Saturday night and be 85 percent accurate.

phork

September 22nd, 2014 at 8:35 AM ^

No apologies needed.  But please try and pick it up in BIG play.  Our schedule seems to be falling like 2012.  Highly competitive preseason opponents, turned out to be flounders for the most part.  (PS: I won't be sad if you break Spartys streak and make Urban lose).

MichiganSports

September 21st, 2014 at 6:43 PM ^

This guy is clueless, sorry but its true. We need to hire the next rising star and fast; doesn't have to be a sexy hire (Guz Malzahn- wasn't sexy at the time). Also not on board with John Harbaugh (can he even recruit?).

A2D2

September 21st, 2014 at 6:53 PM ^

3-9

5-7

7-6

RR improves each year and gets fired (deservedly so)

11-2

8-5

7-6

5-7 (if they are lucky) this year

BK gets worse each year and gets a vote of confidence 

I don't get it, I don't get it, I don't get it......

 

The only question we should have at this point is Jim or John:  which Harbaugh should it be?????

 

west2

September 21st, 2014 at 6:55 PM ^

Kids worked hard, practiced hard, were prepared but....we are dissapointed.  Its the same thing, fumbling bumbling clearly out played and out coached.  This wasn't a fluke game where everything just went wrong.  It was.....a poor performance particularly when coupled with the previous weeks performance.  Can the season be salvaged - yeah but really does anyone believe that after watching the last 2 games?  This point happened at the same time last year after the Uconn game where the team was 4-0 but it was clear they had problems.  Now they are 2-2 and its clear that they might have more problems than last year.  How many times do you have to replay the same movie until you know how it ends?   Hate to be negative as I usually want to hold out hope...but...its time to move in a new direction, sooner would be better than later to preserve the recruiting as much as possible. 

Ron Utah

September 21st, 2014 at 7:00 PM ^

I am a Michigan fan and I will root for a turnaround as hard as anyone.  I love this team.  I love our players.  I think Mattison and Nussmeier are great coaches.  Winning a B1G championship, even in a down year for the conference, would be amazing.

We're running out of variables.  We have talented players coveted by the top programs int he country.  We have top coordinators that have had success at every level of football.  Yes, we're still young.  Yes, the cupboard was pretty bare when Hoke arrived, especially along the lines. But at this point, there are very few potential goats:

  • Funk - The offensive line is still young, but it is loaded with talent, lots of which has been in the program for at least two years.  We still can't seem to sustain pass blocks, and the run blocking is inconsistent at best.  We get pushed around by too many defensive lines that don't appear to have size/strength advantages.  Which leads me to...
  • Wellman - This team looks slower and weaker than the competition at a number of positions on a consistent basis.  I have no way of knowing if this is true, or if we're just playing slower and weaker than our competition.  I just know what I see.
  • Hoke - Regardless of what Funk and/or Wellman may be doing wrong, the buck stops here.  I am, however, starting to look at this differently.  I love coach Hoke.  I think he's a good man who loves his players, believes in character building, and would have literally crawled from Southern California to coach at Michigan.  He has hired (mostly) top quality staff.  But I am beginning to wonder if he has one or more of the following shortcomings: 1) He does not demand enough.  Press conferences are what they are, but Hoke seems genuinely pleased with the effort level and preparation of this team.  There's a problem with that.  He loves his guys and may be impressed with them, but it's not good enough, and if he doesn't recognize that and DEMAND more every day, we'll never be good enough.  Patience is a virtue, especially with kids.  But there is a fine line between being patient with a young team and giving them too much slack.  It may be time to demand more.  2) He does not coach with the precision today's game demands.  Back in Bo's day, if you could block and tackle better than the other guys, chances were good you were going to win.  The importance of scheming, and having players coached well enough to understand not only their own scheme but the opponent's, is a bigger part of the game than ever.  Offensively, Michigan has not looked consistently coherent.  Special Teams has similar challenges.  While the defense has been the most consistent, tempo has created problems.  I don't necessarily think our schemes our bad, but we don't seem to mind the details of the schemes as well as we could.  Perhaps he believes mindset is more important than scheme.  3)  He is too stubborn.   I don't believe in the superiority of one scheme versus another.  I believe the best scheme is one that is consistently and precisely executed.  The offensive scheme du jour is definitely the spread, but Wisconsin, Alabama, and Stanford have proven that there is more than one way to skin a cat.  But how much intelligence does it take to see that under center play action just isn't working?  Maybe it's Devin Gardner, maybe it's the O-Line, heck, maybe it's Nuss calling the play.  But the buck stops with Hoke, and he needs to say, "stop doing that."  If it means more shotgun and pistol runs, then do it.  You can still run power and IZ from those formations.  And the punting thing...look I believe the traditional punt can work, but it obviously isn't working for us.  SO CHANGE IT.  I'm not asking Hoke to coach a finesse team, or to sacrifice his MANBALL philosophy.  But it sure seems like some minor changes could yield big benefits.
I get it.  We have a new offensive system, and a very different defensive system.  These are tough things to adapt to, although the defense looks pretty damn good.  I understand that Hoke was only left with a few usable pieces (we only have 11 seniors on a roster of 115).  But in year four, even if you're not a dominant team, you should be consistently executing your vision.
 
This team doesn't look a year way from being great.  They look like they'll never be great.  I hope I'm wrong, but even if you aren't yet dominant, you should be consistently competent.
 
Again, I hope this team turns the corner.  I hope we're B1G champs.  I hope we demonstrate competence the rest of the way.  But these problems don't look like they can be fixed in three practices per week.  These issues look like they are built into the program right now.  I'm rooting for Hoke, but I'm Brandon, I'm also ready with a back-up plan.

UMfan21

September 22nd, 2014 at 2:29 PM ^

I feel like #3 may not be stubborness, but incompetence.  At least that's how it appears to me.  Hoke never sounds like an Xs and Os guy.  He knows line play, but I don't think he's a strategist.  I get the impression he delegates to his coordinators to lead on both sides of the ball.

This has nothing to do with headsets, etc.  But it just looks like his role on the team is an over-arching "cheerleader" who is there to encourage guys and occasionally give tips to the linemen.  He rarely gets in the face of players to explain technique the way I've seen Dantonio, RichRod, etc do.  He stands back and lets the coordinators do everything.

WineAndSpirits

September 21st, 2014 at 8:41 PM ^

This made me laugh too.

So the players were relaxing and playing on their iPads. I'm sure they were playing minecraft. And the coaches were figuring the right way to warm-up and practice.

Too bad they weren't reviewing game film and trying to develop a scheme for the remaining minutes of the game.

CC_MFan

September 21st, 2014 at 8:53 PM ^

Listen/read the presser.  He keeps saying that they need to "execute" better.  That is putting the blame on the players.  As if the players cannot execute the coaches gameplan.  I think that Hoke is destroying the confidence of our players, and that is why they are not progressing.  A good coach gives confidence by their demeanor and the fact that players see improvement/success in what they are doing.  I believe that we have enough talent to be a very successful team, but the HC is the weak link. 

My name ... is Tim

September 22nd, 2014 at 10:41 AM ^

I think that's a bit of a stretch. I don't think Hoke puts it all on the players. He also doesn't put it all on his shoulders. The comment about failing to "execute" on that big pass play where Jourdan saved the TD was clearly a failure to execute. The safeties on that play took absolutely horrible angles and completely cut themselves out of the play and keeping contain on the edge.

I think the problem here is that there are some areas on the roster that are deficient in talent (recruiting rankings be damned) and there are some serious errors in gameplanning and game strategy that stem from the coaching that are compounding that problem. I don't know if the talent issue is due to poor talent evaluation at the recruiting level - Hoke is just not identifying the right players - or talent development, but either way that falls on Hoke. I just don't see what the positives are at this point in his tenure.

68 Wolverine

September 22nd, 2014 at 7:13 AM ^

Brady is a good guy who bleeds blue, but he just doesent seem to have what it takes to lead this program. Good coaches take average talent (see Mark Dantonio) and win. Brady has above average talent and just can't get the job done.

Ball State 34 wins, 38 losses - 2 winning seasons 7-6 in 2007 and 12-1 in 2008.

SDSU 13 wins 12 losses at SDSU. 1 winning season (only there 2 years).

You tried Brady, but don't let the door hit you on the way out. 

 

Kfojames

September 22nd, 2014 at 10:53 AM ^

The players love hoke and they know he loves and cares deeply for them. But that doesn't always translate to winning. I believe that players or employees need to have a reverential outlook on their leader or boss. I think hoke is somewhat respected but he doesn't have a reverential aura about him. There's no swagger that seeps out of his every pore. Players have no fear that if they short arm a catchable ball and it gets picked off that coach is going to be pissed! Or you've thrown your 4th pick of the game coach is going to be unbelievably dissapointed. There just seems to be a lack of passion and fire with Hoke. You know the players at bama have a certain fear of Saban because he demands everyone's best and when that doesn't happen his coronary artery explodes. Doesn't mean that he doesn't care about his players and love them but he knows what it takes to prepare and win at this level and it's passion, intensity, attention to detail, and going about this game with semi bad intentions.
I know most of the issues were dealing with are on the offensive side of the ball, but for Gods sake how are we this incompetent on offense? Like a poster said earlier we look slow and Unathletic and weak! Maybe it's the youth. But we just look like we shouldn't even be on the same field as some of these teams when we stroll our offense out there.
I'm willing to sit back and watch this season unfold but if things don't PROGRESS with each game that passes you really have to start considering plan B,C, ect

uminks

September 22nd, 2014 at 11:02 AM ^

He now needs to win one of big road games against OSU or MSU and finish 8-4.

At this moment, I don't even see this team beating IU at home and they will most likely lose most of their road games. This team looks as sorry as the '08 RR team and has the same trajectory.

Hopefully the AD is starting a coaching search. Odds are is that Hoke finishes the season 4-8 through 7-5. Not quite cutting it as a major program coach. So much for Dave Brandon hiring his friends as our coach!

matty blue

September 22nd, 2014 at 11:37 AM ^

the biggest issue on game day might be ball security.

the biggest issue facing the program is player development.  some of these guys just never seem to get any better.  okay, the quarterback doesn't seem to get better.

Yinka Double Dare

September 22nd, 2014 at 11:46 AM ^

If you're going to start focusing on new coaches, maybe stop with the pie in the sky Harbaugh thoughts and focus on someone we could actually get and might also fit the players we have so we don't have a horrible transition. For example, Ruffin McNeill might be on the older side (and ECU is his alma mater), but he'd likely bring an Air Raid OC, which would probably work fine with the guys we will have.  

Of course, if the offense gets it figured out, Hoke might not be done after this year. I think the defense is there. And the special teams, well, we'll all just continue to shake our heads at that one.

Class of 1817

September 22nd, 2014 at 1:38 PM ^

Have you thought about taking away iPads in the locker room...unless they're being used to review film?

Have you thought that these kids look like they're already too damned "relaxed" on the field?

The old man in me is old...and misses the days when Michigan didn't look outplayed on every down. I miss the days when we looked bigger, stronger, (and sometimes even faster!) than the opposition. Do the coaches see that this is far from the case these days?

Coaches and players build programs.

When a team that has lost 19 straight hangs tough with us for an entire half...I blame everyone on the field except the drum major.

When the team rips through the fabric of football reality and somehow achieves the seemingly impossible act of outgaining your opponent in terms of yards, yet losing 31-0, I blame the leadership from the administration down.

When a Michigan team, loaded with 4/5 star recruits, goes 2 full games without getting into the red zone...I blame reality.

Because I can barely comprehend how that is possible...even for a mediocre team. Or for a very bad team.

Which means that I can barely wrap my head around how this team is performing below the standards of a very bad team.

It pains me to say it, but nothing about any of this makes any sense, unless these kids have already given up. The consistent lack of "execution" means that these kids are failing to fulfill their assignments due to A) An inability to do so or B) A lack of desire to do so. There is no other option.

Either they can't do it, or they won't do it.

Whichever one it is...it screams of poor coaching. This isn't an opinion, this is just a reality of the situation.