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Turkeys on the loose. Via Bakers and Best, The Great Markley Turkey Hunt Of 1967:

In January I came across these two photos while browsing through the Bentley Historical Library image bank (the Bentley serves as the historical library and archive for the university).  In the past ten months I have told anyone who will listen (and then some) about these pictures. Each time I find myself incapable of fully describing my thoughts on them. Most people react in the way that Ben Wyatt did to Li’l Sebastian. I fear the same will happen here, but I have to try anyways.

I mean, how ridiculous are these? Perhaps it was the fact that it was 4 AM and I had long since given up on falling back asleep, but all I could do when I first saw these was laugh. I was scrolling through a collection of photos from The Michigan Daily, and juxtaposed against campus protests and national conventions they became even more absurd. This feeling of delight and joy quickly moved into deep curiosity. I suddenly had to know everything I could about the story behind these pictures.

Someone had, presumably intentionally, released several turkeys for students to catch in the muddied Markley courtyard. Why? Who sponsored it? Whose idea was it? How many students participated? Where did they get the turkeys from? Was this an annual event?

Some 30 students…celebrated Thanksgiving early yesterday with an Interhouse Assembly-sponsored turkey hunt in the Markley courtyard. Winners were awarded four complementary Thanksgiving dinners – turkey of course – and a splendid time was had by all. – The Michigan Daily, 11/18/1967

From the Bentley Library I knew that both photos were taken by student photographer James Forsyth of The Michigan Daily. Scrolling through several years worth of microfilm turned up an advertisement on November 15th (at right) and a front page photo and description (quoted above) on November 18th. I found no other record in the five years before or after, leading me to believe this was a one-off event.

Perhaps one of the descendants of these unfortunate fowls became the Insane Killer North Campus Turkey of 2015, thus restoring his family honor. The moral of the story is that turkeys should be loosed upon campus more frequently than once every 48 years.

Going long. There have been rumblings about Michigan doing something to tamp down the Harbaugh Goes Somewhere rumors for a year or so now, and... uh...

...yeah, now seems like an amazing time for such a thing. So naturally it's former Notre Dame quarterback Brady Quinn who first broaches the possibility of a conversation-stopper:

What that would look like is unknown. How much oomph it would have depends on the buyout, and all that, but since the yammering about Harbaugh's job is invariably done by dim bulbs a LIFETIME CONTRACT(!!!) should be fairly effective at silencing the noise even if it isn't absolutely ironclad. Those people ain't reading the fine print.

Going deep. Hopefully this Smart Football post will be relevant to our interests going forward. It's about the post route, which we've seen Donovan Peoples-Jones wide open on a ton without results until last week:

The trick to throwing the ball deep down the middle past all eleven defenders is (a) find a way to bring up the defense’s deepest defenders so you can throw the post behind them and (b) if those defenders stay deep, don’t throw the post. The way to accomplish both of those goals is to construct a sound concept around the deep post that can provide answers versus a variety of coverages — and strike like lightning whenever the opportunity is right. And for my money, there’s no better way of accomplishing those goals than the Mills concept.

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The basics of the play are straightforward:

  • the outside receiver runs a post route, breaking towards the near goalpost (hence the name “post”) somewhere between 12 and 15 yards;
  • the inside receiver runs to a depth of 10 to 12 yards and either breaks inside (known as a “dig” or “square-in”) or runs a hook or curl back to the quarterback;
  • the backside receiver runs some sort of route to draw away the coverage, such a corner route, a fade or “go” route or a hook; and
  • the remaining eligible receivers (runningbacks, tight-ends or slot receivers) run underneath routes to be checkdown options if the defense covers everyone else.

Together, the play is typically run with play-action to further pull up the linebackers and safeties. And, as the Fun ‘n Gun heyday era clips below show, Mills could be as beautiful as it was devastating.

Michigan's currently getting DPJ open by being very very bad at passing, but if you see DPJ on a post while a TE runs a dig or 12 yard hitch under him, that's Mills.

Getting rid of it. One of these things is not like the other, from PFF via 24/7:

1. Brandon Peters: 5-8 for 112 yards and zero turnovers when blitzed

Before the redshirt freshman went down with an injury on Saturday, he was excelling when Wisconsin would bring pressure, hitting plays to Donovan Peoples-Jones and Zach Gentry down the field among others and had a strong feel for the pocket throughout the game.

By comparison? John O'Korn went 0-5 in similar situations and looked like he has most of the season when the pressure starts to collapse the pocket a bit.

Small sample sizes but the larger picture looks much the same unless O'Korn is able to break the pocket.

Oh. Right. Cease panic. Bill Connelly once again futilely attempts to calm the raging waters with his logic, stats, and whatnot.

S&P+ projected Michigan to win, on average, about 8.9 games in 2017. If I had taken returning starting quarterback Wilton Speight — lost for the season with injury back in September — out of the equation, their projected wins probably would have fallen to about 8.5.

They are currently 8-3 following a loss to Wisconsin, and they will probably be 8-4 after Ohio State leaves town this coming Saturday evening.

Oh, the horror. Oh, the crushing disappointment.

When I wrote, “From a narrative perspective, though, 2017 will be interesting,” this is almost exactly what I meant. When we peer into the future, we can stomach some disappointments in the name of long-term success. When we’re living through those disappointments in the present tense, however, it feels like the sky is falling.

The defense is performing almost exactly as projected; Michigan was projected fifth in Def. S&P+ and is eighth. The offense has been a bit worse than expected (projected 40th, currently 69th), and Speight’s injury hasn’t been the only cause. But it hasn’t helped, and it probably isn’t a coincidence that the Wolverines’ hopes of an upset in Madison ended virtually the moment that emerging QB Brandon Peters also went down.

Good luck, Mr. Connelly. Let's just check the ol' comments to see how it's going. And...


Do we really expect Michigan fans to want to hear context when they're about to be 1-5 in 3 years vs MSU and Ohio State?

...why type anything ever?

Etc.: Jake Butt has music opinions. Larry Prout profiled. Preseason basketball tournaments are a racket, and here's the worst one. Nobody coaches kickers. That seems fine since they're all super good in the NFL? Braylon Edwards remains Braylon Edwards.

Comments

Blue in Paradise

November 21st, 2017 at 10:26 PM ^

I am a dual U.S. - Cayman Islands citizen, never in a million years did I think that would be relevant to this Board. Cayman is infamous for these half-asses attempts at putting events together. The list too long but just a few examples: 1. NFL QB Challenge - Cayman Tourism Board bought the contract rights for 5 years back in 2007. They had it one year before it got botched and cancelled. Didn’t help that Mike Vick and was the star that year and the dog fighting scandal broke a week after filming. 2. Cayman Invitational Track and Field - they did this for a few years and the event itself seemed to go ok. However, they had a bunch of pre-race events and we had Olympic gold medal winning athletes waiting around for promos and educational sessions with kids because organizers turned up hours late. The basketball classic is the biggest attempt yet (I have also heard rumblings about a CFB Bowl Game - seriously), I would give them a pass because it is the first year but it won’t be any better next year. The first thing that pisses me off is that they barely promoted this thin on island despite basketball being very popular here. Secondly, the stands are embarrassingly empty and yet the tickets are $70 each. Why not drop ticket prices to $10 and/or let a bunch of the local kids go se the games? I am taking my son tomorrow- we’ll see how it goes.

bronxblue

November 21st, 2017 at 4:13 PM ^

Michigan playing in a ballroom in Atlantis was up there in terms of stupidly-run tournaments.

I continues to astound me that UCLA is as consistently bad at football as they have been.  I'm sure Jim Harbaugh would make them better, but that's a program that seems destined for #2 status in that city.

Rabbit21

November 21st, 2017 at 4:27 PM ^

They've had their moments, but their main issue is a continued string of bad coaching hires.  Mora looked to be on the right track until his divorce, and before that they just couldn't seem to get out of their own way after Donahue retired, with the exception of Bob Toledo's Cade McNown fueled good season in '98.  

Talent is never going to be the problem there even with the way USC recruits, but they've got to hire a coach who will do something different with them other than trying to basically be a homeless mans USC.  

DoubleB

November 21st, 2017 at 9:46 PM ^

Generally, when a succession of coaches who are failing at one school, it's something about the school that is the issue. I think they've been way behind on facilities (although the Wasserman Center just opened this season I think) and I think their big athletic programs are run on the cheap because they actually care about the Olympic sports.

Benoit Balls

November 21st, 2017 at 4:42 PM ^

for any Michigan fans wringing their hands over Harbaugh, questioning results, crying about records vs OSU and MSU etc, etc perhaps this sobering dose of reality will wake you up.  There is another contingent of fans who constantly cry that the current people in charge of things are not the people who should be in charge of things and that they should fire the people in charge of things for other people to be in charge of things. The, once the new people are hired, everyone talks about what an uphill climb it will be to get back to acceptable levels, and how patience is the key. Then, a year and half later, the contingent of people start whining about the people who are in charge of things and start crying that those people should not be in charge of things.  It's as if they expect things to improve dramatically and immediately.

Furthermore, its as if they expect the people they get hired to be 100% exactly perfect, or else they will clamor for someone else to be in charge, because the grass is always greener on the other side.  They have no patience for things to develop and people to improve with experience, they just have a long history of things being terrible, but apparently also believe it's very easy to be not terrible, even though their team has been terrible for YEARS. Their team rarely gets anything right, but as soon as someone isnt perfect, then they're not good enough for these fans.  Also, patience lasts...for about a year (maybe) before they start clamoring for more turnover...and things never get better

Those people are Cleveland Browns fans.  You dont want to be as dumb, irrational and misguided as Cleveland Browns fans, do you?

(Note to MGrowOld before he says anything- Im a supporter of the Browns as well, but you know the exact type Im talking about. There are Browns fans capable of cogitation, but they're few and far between)

SunDiegoBlue

November 22nd, 2017 at 2:46 AM ^

Offensive line has regressed to Hoke Era (QB near deaths included). Third string QB clearly better than backup possibly causing a loss to a rival, again (MSU) Meh recruiting class in 2018 thus far. Highest paid staff (or top 2). You may want to give Fans that see more gloom than you a small break. With high pay comes high expectations (especially with MSU fast turnaround this year) The team is also facing another loss this weekend to its rival and going into next year as underdogs to both main rivals, eeek. That would be year 4

Blue in Paradise

November 22nd, 2017 at 9:34 AM ^

"going into next year as underdogs to both main rivals, eeek".

You see, this is a really, really dumb statement.  You have no idea what is going to happen over the next 6 months in terms of folks leaving for NFL / coming back to school, transfers in / out, injuries, coaching changes, attrition, LOI, and scores of other factors.

I would say it is very unlikely that we start the season as an "underdog" to MSU, whatever the hell that even means (preseason rankings?, Vegas line?). 

OSU, yeah sure, they will probably be 1 or 2 in the preseason like they are most years.

You talk about high pay but.given my doubts that you are part of the donor program, you are likely not paying for it.  If you are putting money in, then I suggest you stop if you are not happy. I am paying my share and happy and excited to do so.

His Dudeness

November 21st, 2017 at 4:46 PM ^

Yes why type anything ever indeed? I find it more and more frequently in my life that I am screaming into the void that values hot takes instead of facts and reason. Well played, society. You've certainly got us now...

nappa18

November 21st, 2017 at 5:01 PM ^

We all have a lifetime contract..with a funeral home or crematorium of a loved one’s choosing. Otherwise, no. Any “lifetime” or super long term “contract” would be filled with more escape clauses on both sides then the number of crappy passes Quinn threw in the pros. Not showing your smarts Brady.

crg

November 21st, 2017 at 6:08 PM ^

I would like to think that Harbaugh's lifetime contract includes a clause stating that, upon his death, his remains will be immediately embalmed and installed above the visitor's section of Michigan Stadium.  From that time on the opponents will literally have Jim Harbaugh leering over their collective shoulders while they are playing in the stadium.

991GT3

November 21st, 2017 at 7:00 PM ^

as an employee for the State of MIcjgan is legal. 

Regarding our record, it doesn't say much that all our wins were against teams with a losing record. BY ANY measure, the coaching staff has not lived up to expectations or their inflated salaries.

uncleFred

November 21st, 2017 at 10:13 PM ^

Since the athletic department is 100% self funded from private dollars, are its employees considered state employees? It may not matter that not one dime of state funds goes to support the athletic department. Perhaps one of our MgoLawyers who is knowledgeable will comment.  

As to the notion that our coaches enjoy unearned inflated salaries. Outside analysis of the impact of hiring Harbaugh indicates that in his first year the athletic department made more money from his hire than he and his coaches cost. Further as to expectations, rational folks understand that in the modern era of college football nothing turns on a dime, and that Harbaugh and his staff are on steady progress to create a program that wins year after year. 

You're just a troll and not a very good troll at that. 

MGoStrength

November 21st, 2017 at 7:28 PM ^

If memory serves me right, I recall that Speight was good with a clean pocket, but struggled with mechanics when pressured, ie the back foot throws, overthrows, etc. earlier this season.  Are there any stats on that to see if that's accurate?  And, if so does that mean we think Peters is our QB next year or is that single thing not enough to overcome Speight's experience?  Is another off season enough time to get Peters and the rest of the offense the full playbook?  Who should our starter is next year if all are healthy and in the bowl game?

MGoStrength

November 21st, 2017 at 10:29 PM ^

Based on all 3 QBs game play this year the QB competition at the beginning of the year appears flawed.  I'm not sure how they evaluated each player and what their criteria, but it seems like the things that matter most are making good decisions, being accurate, and not turning the ball over.  I wonder if knowledge of the playbook and just being loud was over-valued.  Peters has performed the best in games but he didn't "win the job" in practice.  Even JOK was ahead of him at the start of the season.  So, I don't know that I have a ton of faith in proving your ability in practice without getting a chance in games.  I think Peters has earned the #1 spot if healthy.  

MGoStrength

November 23rd, 2017 at 6:51 AM ^

If I look at how the 3 QBs have developed in some areas and not in others, it makes sense that Peters may have gotten more comfortable/confident and is using his voice better.  I doubt he's doing anything drastically different in a few months in terms of his ability to throw accurately and make decisions.  The latter seem like inate skills he already has as well as skills JOK does not.  In that regard we haven't seen much changes in any of their skills.

1VaBlue1

November 21st, 2017 at 10:41 PM ^

I won't pretend to know what goes on in spring or fall camp, but something clearly put Speight at #1, JOK 2, and Peters 3.  I'll bet that being a returning starter gave Speight a leg up, and playbook command probably got JOK the 2-spot.  After all, Peters was running the scout team last year, so he didn't get any time with the 1's & 2's, or much time running Michigan's plays.  Also, Harbaugh said Peters wasn't taking command of the huddle in the spring (and early fall).  That would put him another step back.  

When Speight got hurt, Peters started getting personal time with Pep along with the #2 snaps.  Harbaugh said his game and attitude had clearly improved and that he was ready 'sometime around the Indiana game'.

In any case, Peters has been two steps better than JOK.  But we're not sure if he'd be better than Speight, if Speight had stayed healthy and could ripen with the offense as the season progressed. 

Nonetheless, I'll continue to trust Harbaugh's QB whispering.

UM Griff

November 22nd, 2017 at 10:13 AM ^

To the talking heads, either positive or negative towards Michigan. Someone once said you are never as good or as bad as your press releases. Their SEC bias is plain for all to see.

jayfred

November 22nd, 2017 at 10:57 AM ^

Has anyone else noticed the fact that in the "Mills" video clip, the receiver apparently drops the ball at the 2-yard line? Was that called a Touchdown in context? Craziness.

MGoBlog Fan

November 23rd, 2017 at 7:41 PM ^

I asked my dad (BA '66, MBA '67, JD '69) if he remembered the turkey hunt. He said he was living in married housing in '67 but didn't remember the event or any others, so it may have been just a one time thing. He did get a kick from the Michigan Daily page, though.