Anyone else get put in timeout?
the remote to my son as I was evicted from the room.
Like the baby on E-trade, I still have my smartphone for Mgoblog.
My wife forced me to go on a walk with her in the snow, which ended up more like a 45-minute stomping silent tantrum. I...am a child.
And now my new Internet friend!
My wife told me to either get over it or to kill myself. Whatever happened to "in good time and in bad?!" Amirite?
I was high fiving the other Michigan fan in my section, happy that the dude in front of me who stood up every time a shot was taken would be disappointed. Then that happened.
I couldn't wait for the 70 yo hag in front of me to stfu. Then that happened.
You have to foul at the end. I don't get it.
I question the coaching. JB is a great coach, certainly smart enough to know the ONLY thing that can't happen at the end of regulation is a friggin 3. Is this a case of him telling kids to foul and them not doing it? Kids failing to execute happens. Extremely frustrating in such a situation but it happens. OR is this a case where the coaches just missed it and decided to play it out? Inexcusable if that happened. This is Michigan. If we've learned nothing else, we should know if there's a half court prayer against us in crunch time, it's going in.
He wanted them to foul. The announcers heard him shouting it out during the telecast.
Fans act sometimes like the coach has total control over what his players do. He doesn't. Sometimes they screw up.
No. But executing a simple instruction, yeah I think that's reasonable to expect. Doesn't take much basketball IQ to figure out you can't get 3 points on 2 foul shots unless something truly crazy happens.
Sure, they should be able to. But given that the team was literally two seconds away from being the #1-ranked team in the country, I don't think Beilein has a problem communicating with them. I chalk this one up to a simple brain fart.
and Chris Weber about how things happen at the end of games...
How many basketball games at the collegiate level have you coached? You do not have a clue about how easy or hard it is to get 18-23 year olds to do something in a hostile arena . Whining and criticizing coaches about things you know nothing about seems to be the way you deal with any loss . Sometimes, the other guys get the calls or non-calls and get lucky too.
So fouling Burst, who got his shot off with a good second to spare, would have given Wiscy the ball out of bounds at half-court with ~1.5-2.0 seconds to go. And within range of a normal catch-and-shoot three point shot.
A miracle three-point runner trumps strategy. I think the chance of making three free throws from the next foul on the ensuing play would be greater than the chance of making that prayer.
Good lord. Beilein resurrects the program and people question the coaching because Wisconsin managed to make a contested 40 foot shot.
the coaching IF they didn't tell kids to foul. Sounds like they did and kids just didn't do it. Not sure where the breakdown in communication is, but when a coach tells you to do something, you should do it. Looking at you Caris LeVert.
The thing is fouling isn't a 100% foolproof solution either. Foul them, now they're inbounding at half court and have a decent chance at an even better shot, never mind if they manage to get into the act of shooting while getting fouled. I've seen other people mentioning putting a defender on the inbounder as if that can't give up even better shots. And sometimes the other team doesn't let your players do what you told them to do. The coaching limited them to a really low percentage shot, but sometimes shit happens. Criticizing the coaching after that is looking at the results instead of the process when no process is 100% foolproof.
If they were to do it over again, I'd take giving up that heave over giving Wiscy an effective timeout (clock stoppage) and the ball at half-court with ~1.5-2.0 seconds to go.
The play you linked to is incredibly unlikely to happen. They basically threw the ball up and hoped someone caught it. If you tried that 100 times, I'd bet you'd convert 2 or 3. On the other hand, allowing an uncontested pass to center court to a player in stride allows a pretty good look. College players can make near half-court shots. We've seen it twice under JB, and it's pretty inexcusable.
Burst made an off-balance runner from half court. It was an incredible shot and one that is very low percentage (realistically maybe 5% - 10% likelihood of going in). It certainly wasn't a good look.
made a half court shot to push it to OT, how can you question coaching on that? If the foul they had was to put them on the line then you foul the first person you see. JB should take no heat from that.
They made a clutch shot and took that momentum into OT.
I am more upset about our weak perimeter defense all game which allowed them to get one good look after another.
I think every wisconsin fan is going to be jacking off to that replay all season
I threw an orange juice jug.
Ace, I am so glad you moved his face down. I had to make myself not look at the main part of the page when I was checking the boards.
I never want to see that skeleton again. F*CK them always hitting half court shots on us
...and the schadenfreude from some of the little tykes community is annoying.
Good grief, Big Ten Basketball. The muppets seem like so long ago...alright, on to Tuesday-and a date with Sparty.
Exactly how I imagined it Ace. Great job!
Thanks for the idea, NFG. I wish I didn't have such a depressingly perfect time to unveil it.
So, one of MSUs best wins was vs Kansas. Well, Kansas is on a three game losing streak that includes OK State, TCU(?!) and Oklahoma. TCU and Oklahoma are really bad.
Kansas sucks, ergo State sucks? First, I don't think KU sucks. They lost a few games they shouldn't have. Almost every team does that. Second, you could be feeling very differently about State on Tuesday. They are getting better at the right time of year. Just like all of Izzo's teams.
Kansas doesn't suck, but they aren't that good. They should definitely be outside the top 12 now. Honestly, Indiana, Michigan, and Duke are the top 3 teams IMO; with Florida, Gonzaga, and Miami composing the second tier. Arizona could make a case to be in the second tier group of teams but they looked non-competitive at home against UCLA.
Agreed except I think Miami is going to get some love as a top 3 or 4 team this week. They had some really bad losses early but now seem to be the "sexy" pick.
Not sure what Florida's early season resume looks like but I'm not sold on them. Granted, I just watched them get destroyed at Arkansas.
Michigan will still be Top 3 on Monday.
I agree that Miami is one of the best teams in the country. But so are we. We can win the whole thing from both the 1 or 2 seed.
The point is that we could very well be battling MSU for a #1 seed. That's why it's good for us when any Top 10 team loses. Kansas losing is doubly good since they were considered an elite team and since they were a signature win for MSU. Got it?
all that was clear from your post. Thought it might just be a peremptory flame of Sparty before the game Tuesday. But I got it.
Twitter fights with Dakich and Braylon in one day? We wanted to hear more. Bravo!
I'm getting sick and fucking tired of away game refs, and shut the fuck up Dakich about how the refs missing 20-some fouls against us is great officiating. Every time we took it to the hoop we got fouled, they didnt call a single one. Worst officiating Ive seen all season which is impressive.
I was this week. Are you watching me?
is it me or does anyone else feel the same way I do? Everytime Michigan loses especially the close losses at Ohio, today, bowl game, ND, and Neb. That I don't want to do anything productive the rest of the day and rather just sleep it off. I hate losing more than anything maybe its me being so competitive but I don't take it that well.
have to drive home. The bowl game is the only one I was not at. This one and the ND game were the worst.
Don't worry Burke. One game, when it really matters like in the NCAA tournament, you are going to make that shot. No one will care about the ones you miss in the regular season. Then we will mentally high five.
Beilein made the same mistake against Ohio and Evan Turner in the B1G Tourny of 2010. Not defending the inbounds pass allows the offense to stay in rhythm and get makeable shots. When Laettner scored against Kentucky - no one on the inbounds. Put a guy on the inbounds the pass is likely to be shorter, out of rhythm, and in today's game would have provided an opportunity to foul. Beilein is a great coach - does good things but based on his explanation today and in 2010 - this is one part of the game he doesn't get.
You cite three examples in a span of 21 years. Shots like that are a freak occurrence, period.
even freakier, as in nonexistent, when someone gaurds the inbounds pass