[Bill Rapai]

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Brian January 30th, 2023 at 12:03 PM

1/27/2023 – Michigan 7, Penn State 3 – 16-9-1, 5-6 Big Ten
1/28/2023 – Michigan 5, Penn State 4 – 16-9-1, 6-6 Big Ten

Once, during my long tenure in the student section, I had a mad, fleeting thought. I was pretty sure I was standing next to Cam Fowler, then a 17-year-old kid committed to Notre Dame, later a top-15 NHL draft pick and long-term NHL defenseman. Fowler would never make it to South Bend, instead defecting to the OHL, but at the time he was rooting for his team, with his phone out, chortling in a way that drove me insane.

Michigan had a goal disallowed. Later in the game a Notre Dame player scored on the clearest kicking motion I have ever seen; the replay review was inconclusive, apparently because the kick had come from far enough out that the overhead camera did not catch it. Yost roared in outrage, and Fowler chortled and typed out something on his phone. The urge to grab Fowler's phone and hurl it onto the ice rose up unbidden inside of me. The higher portions of the mind immediately dismissed such a course of action, but the combination of Yost Ice Arena and a clear injustice had the rink poised on the precipice of madness.

This was a fairly common occurrence throughout the 90s.

Things changed. Dave Brandon's renovations took out more seats and mate them shiny metal instead of Yost's old black menace. The students were almost entirely removed from the glass. The section shrunk. Smartphones came in; fewer students were antisocial weirdos; piped-in music frequently drowned out episodes when the shadow of old Yost threatened to come back in. Yost is still a great venue for hockey, but it is not Old Yost. The malevolence is largely gone.

But, hey, if you take away a goal to make it 2-1 with a bullshit review that disallows a goal and gives Michigan a five-minute major penalty on an incident that occurred almost a minute before the actual goal, well, turns out the old dog can still get up and bark.

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Back in the day, Yost had a reputation. It still has a reputation, yes. But the reason we have this insane tournament system today is directly traceable to the years Yost hosted back-to-back regionals in which they beat one-seeds to reach the Frozen Four. This happens all the time, yes. But those two regionals felt like the building picking up the team and morphing the team into avenging gods, the kinds of gods with eyepatches and scars and deep interpersonal loathings that can only be settled at the end of the world.

This is not a rational thought. Home ice in hockey is not really a determining factor. But that feeling was so widespread that the powers that be in college hockey opted for antiseptic, empty neutral site regionals in the worst tournament in sports instead of give Yost another crack ever again. Madness of a different sort. At this distant remove it feels silly.

Do not tell the powers that be this, but two days after Michigan 5, Penn State 4 it does not feel silly. Here is what happened: Penn State scored two goals in the first 90 seconds and put up 20 shots in the first period. Michigan managed to scratch and claw back into the game, somewhat. With about 10 minutes left in the second period, they score a power-play goal. PSU asks for a review, Edwards gets called for a major for contact to the head as a PSU player suddenly spins around with his head at chest height, and they wipe a goal off the board despite the puck not only leaving the offensive zone but going all the way down to the opposite boards.

This may in fact be the way college hockey wants to officiate itself but what it is not is anything resembling justice. Michigan eats a goal on the five-minute power play, and then Adam Fantilli and Luke Hughes get very very angry, as angry as Yost appears to be.

For a period and a half they enact Ragnarok on a team with a 3-0 lead. Hughes torments Penn State defenders en route to four goals and—probably more impressively—11 shots. PSU, the kings of shooting from anywhere and everywhere, end up with fewer shots in the second and third periods than they had in the first. Despite being shorthanded, and getting more short handed in the third period when Seamus Casey leaves the ice, they run over Penn State. Dylan Duke gets a partial breakaway goal to tie it, and in the stands I am more or less content to take a win and a tie from the series.

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[Bill Rapai]

Luke Hughes is not, and fires a top-shelf wrister to go up 5-4 with ten minutes left. All of this madness took under a period of hockey. By the time it's time for Penn State to pull their goalie, Michigan bottles up the Nittany Lions for a minute and a half; they only get an extra attacker on with 30 seconds left in the game.

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[Rapai]

Sit, exhale, and oh yes. That's what it was like. That's what it used to be. Wings of fury. Get me a cigarette. I don't even smoke.

[After THE JUMP: broken officiating, pairwise, adversity checklist]

BULLETS

On the state of college hockey officiating. I am not surprised because college hockey is the worst-run sport in the history of sports but they have fundamentally broken a contact sport. This weekend Nolan Moyle got called for a two minute minor for "indirect contact to the head" for missing a check on a PSU player. That PSU player threw his head back dramatically; the officials went into the box and came back with the same two minutes. It is insane.

Many comparisons have been made to college football's targeting call, but this is several levels above in terms of madness. (And targeting is pretty well figured out at this point, IMO. I have not made a targeting roulette joke in some time, and incidents like the end of the Fiesta Bowl stand out as outliers.) The booth can overturn a targeting call; review in college hockey can only increase the punishment. College football has specific allowances for defenders on the calls. If a hit is against an active runner there is considerable leeway for the defender as long as he does not use the crown of his helmet. If the hit is glancing targeting will not be called. College hockey has absolutely no leeway for players attempting to check opponents who fall at the last second (a Van Whye ejection last year) or take glancing contact (an Estapa ejection this year). A targeting call affects the play it is called on and only that play; hockey can apparently reach back almost a minute and rewrite the timeline of a game. The puck went all the way down behind the Michigan net after the Edwards hit; it had literally nothing to do with the goal.

Unlike college football, there has been no movement towards a sane application of the rule. I have very little hope this will get better in the future.

On the Pairwise. On the one hand, Michigan is trundling along in a difficult season in which they look like a mediocre team pretty frequently and will be lucky to make the tournament. On the other:

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They would be a one-seed if the season ended today. By the skin of their teeth, yeah, but one thing they are not is on the bubble. Notre Dame is 14th in Pairwise and is almost 0.04 points back, which is a huge gap that it would take a total, close-to-0-fer collapse to make up. This is possible because the Big Ten is finally the sack of murder programs it was supposed to be at its inception. Five of the seven teams in the league are in position to get in and Michigan State has a punchers chance at #18. The aforementioned Notre Dame is in the likely last at-large spot at 13-12-1. Only Wisconsin is definitively out of the at-large conversation.

In addition to that, Michigan played #3 BU, #9 Harvard, and #10 Western Michigan in the noncon portion of the schedule. KRACH has their schedule the most difficult in the nation. You can the schedule eases up from here… because Michigan has Wisconsin, two NCAA bubble teams, and solidly-in OSU to finish the season.

On adversity. Michigan's gotten to this spot despite:

  • having Naurato hastily installed as head coach on the eve of the season due to Warde Manuel's dithering
  • missing half the team and playing with a skeleton crew in the pivotal home Minnesota series
  • losing Steve Holtz more or less for the season at that point
  • dealing with the emotional fallout of Holtz going to the ICU with RSV
  • losing Portillo for the first PSU series, probably because of RSV, and the possibility that PSU series was affected by illness
  • not having Fantilli for the MSU series because he was going to the WJC
  • losing the goalie coach for unexplained reasons
  • losing Samoskevich and Truscott for this PSU series
  • not having the #13 pick in the most recent NHL draft at all
  • playing the toughest schedule in college hockey, and
  • getting ridiculously boned by the officiating night-in and night-out.

This season has been a grind, to say the least.

On Naurato. Dave and I had a discussion on the podcast about Naurato's interim tag and whether you should remove it posthaste; Alex argues that you don't need to make a decision until the end of the season. I agree that you don't have to jump the gun here but if there's a clear bar Naurato needs to clear there's no sense in waiting once he's cleared it. I'd guess that making the tournament is that bar, especially given the piles of adversity (see above) this team will have overcome if they do. Since missing the tournament is still distantly possible I guess you could keep the interim tag on, but a couple more regular season wins and they should be a lock. At that point making the decision earlier would signal to recruits that it's full speed ahead.

Comments

Wolverine In Exile

January 30th, 2023 at 12:31 PM ^

A professor friend of mine offer me two tickets for Friday that I couldn't take because I had to take my daughter to her hockey game out of state. After reading Brian's write up, I am only half-joking I made the wrong decision. 

PUT THE OLD YOST RIGHT INTO MY VEINS ARGAHAGSGSHAGHHHH

(I was watching via the twitters the Sat game updates, and the video highlight of the tying goal and game winner had me silently chanting "all your fault, all your fault" while sitting in the scorekeepers box at my daughter's game on Saturday night)

lhglrkwg

January 30th, 2023 at 12:32 PM ^

Couldn't watch the game but based on my twitter follows it seems like this was an all-timer for the already moribund B1G officials. It's a debacle that the league doesn't seem interested in fixing

Packer487

January 30th, 2023 at 1:49 PM ^

When I still had my blog, I did a breakdown of power play opportunities for/against and game results per ref. We got the best whistle BY FAR from Pi, if I remember right. Which to me always made sense since he was supposedly the best in the conference and, in my world, the team that has the puck more (which was usually us) should probably get more power plays...

gremlin3

January 30th, 2023 at 10:57 PM ^

Did a radio/TV project involving hockey for a Communications class back in the day, when PASS sports was a thing. PASS mic'd up Piotrowski but we actually filmed him as he was mic-ing up. He was friendly and jovial. Besides, reffing is a shitty, thankless job so I try to remember that during the heat of competition. Then shenanigans like Saturday's major happen and I lose it.

Mi Sooner

January 30th, 2023 at 12:39 PM ^

I miss the Yost atmosphere of the 90’s and early 00’s.  It’s boring w/out the students doing what they use to do.  And I agree that the last upgrade to Yost was, at best, meh.  Students should be at the glass filling more than a few much smaller sections.

naurato should be given the upgrade once it’s apparent they made the post season.  During the series w/OSU would be a great time.

jdon

January 30th, 2023 at 6:51 PM ^

I was at damn near every home game 96-2001 and I remember hearing then about how much crazier it was in the 80s.  

My favorite fond memory is when we hosted the regionals in 02 and 03.  Sadly those memories are coupled with a trip to Minnesota and Buffalo to lose to the stupid Gophers each year...  I did make in on ESPN to flip the world off at the game in Minnesota though, so there is that...

Man, what a great time to be alive that was.

A2Photonut

January 30th, 2023 at 8:40 PM ^

My Dad took me several times in the early 80's when I was a kid, he had a buddy who was an usher and I would wander for half a period or so while they would catch up with each other. They were usually during matinees and the place would be maybe a quarter full, if that. I loved it, felt like I had the place to myself, I could basically sit where I wanted, but I remember some poor disgusted fan barking at me once, probably because the were down 6-2 or something like that and I annoyed him. Good times.

stephenrjking

January 30th, 2023 at 12:41 PM ^

An old-fashioned Yost viper pit. An old-fashioned home sweep of a good team (albeit in a very non-conventional way). An old-fashioned Brian hockey column.

Vive la hockey. 

Blue Vet

January 30th, 2023 at 12:42 PM ^

It's Yost's fault for the crappy tournament system? I knew Michigan hockey was important but didn't realize the extent of it.

Is the intransigence about improving college hockey simply inertia or are there powers that it favors, and so they favor keeping things the way they are?

 

griffinm9

January 30th, 2023 at 1:41 PM ^

Oh yeah. Michigan hosted those three regionals in five or six years, defeated a #1 seed in all three years in the most insane environments I've ever experienced.

Hell, Wayne State gave Colorado College a game for a while just on the backs of the crowd getting behind them. I'll never forget the Wayne State section saluting the fans by starting a "let's go blue" chant after their game was over.

lhglrkwg

January 30th, 2023 at 4:24 PM ^

Yes- check out '98 Michigan-North Dakota or '02 Michigan-Denver or '03 Michigan-Colorado College.

Three Yost regionals. Three times Michigan knocked off a higher seeded WCHA team.

I believe 2004 was the first tournament where the NCAA went to neutral site snoozers. Not sure when that was announced but certainly Michigan's success at Yost was a significant part of that move.

And here we are today, playing our regionals mostly in New England 'neutral sites' in front of 500 fans. Great system. Which, to be fair, I would agree it sucks to be a 1 seed and go play a road game at a lower seed but I still think 1 seeds should get the opportunity to host the regional rather than our current terrible system of "neutral" sites

AWAS

January 30th, 2023 at 12:59 PM ^

It is far past time for the big time programs to take their money and their puck elsewhere.  Maybe the ascendancy of the B1G and a new commissioner will rattle the cages.  Six B1G programs are going to make the playoffs, and the games will be played in Fargo ND, Allentown PA, Bridgeport CT, Manchester NH--and the Frozen Four is in TAMPA????

lhglrkwg

January 30th, 2023 at 4:34 PM ^

To be fair, the neutral site frozen fours have done well. IIRC Tampa has sold out at least once in the past

The Big Ten and CCHA get screwed because none of the cities in region bid. They all try it now and again and get screwed when attendance is horrendous. Ft Wayne, Toledo, Grand Rapids, Cincinnati, etc. so under the guise of 'neutrality' all the midwest teams get boned by never ever having a home-ish regional. Stupid system

Packer487

January 30th, 2023 at 1:17 PM ^

To add more context to Brian's Notre Dame story: That kicked in goal from ND was one of the funniest things in history. It was during a stretch where officials were ONLY allowed to use the overhead cam for goal reviews. It was said to be because different arenas had different cameras available, so to be fair they could only use the overhead shot. That seems weird to me, since it feels like using all cameras would be fair to both teams who were playing in that game, but such is life in the NCAA.

Dude absolute SOCCER KICKS the puck in. But it was from out by the hash marks, so he wasn't in the overhead shot. That meant that everyone on TV saw this dude Messi the puck in, anyone looking at the jumbotron saw it. But the refs weren't allowed to reverse the call. Goal. 

That was a Brian Aaron special. Not sure how all four officials missed the soccer kick in the first place, since theoretically at least one of them should be looking at the puck. Travis Turnbull sure saw it. 

Brian Aaron also wiped out our tying goal in that game by erroneously ruling that the net was off the moorings when Kampfer scored with like 30 seconds left. 

I legitimately have a OneNote on my phone now called "Why Each Ref Sucks" and I keep track of things so I can add some context when, say, Brett Sheva calls embellishment from 100 feet away when Dylan Duke gets drilled from behind and hits his head on the glass. I can remind people that this is the numbskull who also allowed the "through the side of the net" goal in the Kohl Center. I have hated Brian Aaron for 20+ years. I've yelled things at McInchak that my mom would not be proud of. The officiating has never been as bad as it is today.

It's utter insanity that Estapa got tossed because he glanced off a dude's cage, and yet Logan Cooley put Eric Ciccolini out for 6 weeks on a disgusting hit and was left in the game to make two game-changing plays. We have have 3 guys out injured, seemingly all from hits from behind by Minnesota, who is one of the least penalized teams in the country. For all these "head shots" have any of the players even come out of the game for a concussion check? Did any of them miss a shift?

I'm not opposed to protecting the players, but then maybe don't let Barry Pochmara stare right at Mackie getting drilled from behind, injured, and then not call anything even after a review. (But he's the same guy who thought that it wasn't contact to the head when GVW had his HELMET DENTED by a cross check that he was looking right at. See, the OneNote is awesome.) 

Other stuff:
-The earlier PSU series was definitely further impacted by the virus.
-The goalie coach thing: I'm not sure I've gotten the whole story, but it's cool that we lost our volunteer coach but would be able to hire him back in July if we want since they've since approved a 3rd paid coach. But it isn't in effect yet.
-Adding to the adversity for this season: They lost their longtime equipment guy, Ian Hume, to cancer. They have the youngest team in the country. They had to replace Power, Johnson, Brisson, Bordeleau, Beecher, Blankenburg, Beniers, also with a pretty darn good checking line worth of guys. 

We're still recruiting like crazy at this point, so I'm not sure the interim tag is really going to hurt between now and the end of the season when it presumably will be removed, but it's pretty comical that it even got to this point. I think the late coaching transition did probably hurt us with some transfer targets.

stephenrjking

January 30th, 2023 at 2:17 PM ^

We're still recruiting like crazy at this point, so I'm not sure the interim tag is really going to hurt between now and the end of the season when it presumably will be removed, but it's pretty comical that it even got to this point. I think the late coaching transition did probably hurt us with some transfer targets.

Right, still seems like they're getting recruits. In fact, it's pretty remarkable given the turmoil of the last year.

To me, the main concern is that if Naurato is the right guy--and early returns suggest he is--Michigan really needs to make sure he knows it and gets him secured. If the buzz we hear periodically about how smart his coaching is has substance behind it, he'll have plenty of opportunities to just go somewhere else and get paid if Michigan wastes too much time. And I no longer have full confidence in the AD to not mess that up. 

Team 101

January 30th, 2023 at 1:22 PM ^

I caught the game on TV Saturday night and Yost was louder than it was in long time.  I've heard your comments before about the changes at Yost but it is story that needs to be told again and again just like the story of the exodus from Egypt.

Also the fan experience people in the Athletic Department are sanitizing the experience.  I'd like to see a game with the jumbotron off.

Real Tackles Wear 77

January 30th, 2023 at 2:02 PM ^

College hockey refs, man...I remember in the old CCHA days they had to remove the ref's last names from the back of their uniforms because the fans started coming up with chants directly targeted at them.

Wolverine In Exile

January 30th, 2023 at 2:25 PM ^

Yost, circa 1999. Ref gets ready for a face off right in front of the student section. Makes mistake of bending over with ass in full view of student section.

Me: "Hey [ref name redacted], you have expanding ass pants!" 

Student section immediately: "Expanding ass pants. [CLAP/cowbell]. Expanding ass pants. [CLAP/cowbell]"

Ref skates over to other side of faceoff circle. Sheds tear.

lhglrkwg

January 30th, 2023 at 4:32 PM ^

The fun side of that was I still remember one ref (whose name escapes me) went to the net as the student section chanted CHECK THE NET and he went in and came out with candy that he threw into the student section. IIRC he was warmly welcomed back to Yost over the next few series before people forgot about him.

Must've been 2007-2009 timeframe

m1jjb00

January 30th, 2023 at 2:04 PM ^

Hate to go all Cormac McCarthy It's Always Been This Way, but I have a friend who got kicked out of a hockey game in the 80s.  He was in the Wisconsin band, and brought a home-made roulette-type wheel that he'd spin in the stands when the refs called a penalty

GRBluefan

January 30th, 2023 at 2:13 PM ^

1997/1998 was my freshman year, and I went to the 1998 regional at yost.  The regional final against North Dakota was one of the greatest sporting events I've ever been to.  Full game is available on YouTube, but you only need to watch from 4:00 mark in the 3rd period on to get goosebumps!

 

https://youtu.be/Ahl848KTpmA

stephenrjking

January 30th, 2023 at 4:17 PM ^

Molly game was the most bananas event I’ve ever attended. The Denver game was definitely louder, though. Whole third period was electric after the Werner goal, and then the winner…

I think I’ve been to three other events of any kind that exceed the bedlam of that one, if that many. One of them was a night football game at LSU. One was the 97 OSU game. That whole regional weekend was amazing. 

WFNY_DP

January 30th, 2023 at 2:41 PM ^

One of the only joys for me this pro hockey season--as a Columbus fan--is the hope that our ultra-tank (difficult to pull off with two legitimate all stars on your team in Gaudreau and Laine, but we're digging deep!!) might result in Fantilli getting to center those two wingers for the next decade. That GWG by Hughes, just watching Fantilli toy with the entire front line of PSU to set it up was /chef's kiss.

/edit, plus the more UM guys we can stockpile, the more it angers some of the stupid OSU fans who refuse to "like" guys like Kent Johnson (quietly putting up a very solid rookie season on an absolute shit team with an absolute shit coach), Blankenburg, and Werenski. Give me ALL the Wolverines please.