Is the NCAA high? Am I high? WTF is going on? None of this makes sense.
there would have to be some to wash away
Well, dammit. McGary's out the door and in the end there wasn't even a decision to make:
The Michigan sophomore who turned down a prime opportunity to enter last year's NBA draft and paid a price has decided to declare for the 2014 draft, admitting that he failed an NCAA-administered drug test in March and faced a one-year suspension from college basketball.
The drug test he failed was for pot, which seems ludicrous. Since when does the NCAA even test for pot, let alone levy year-long suspensions? Especially of a player who didn't even play? The situation here is insane. If Michigan issues the test, they get to decide the punishment. If the NCAA does, it's pretty much a death penalty for your career:
By failing a test administered by the NCAA, rather than his school, McGary was subject to the draconian Bylaw 188.8.131.52.1, which calls for a player to be "ineligible for a minimum of one calendar year." A second offense, even for just marijuana, results in permanent banishment.
"If it had been a Michigan test, I would've been suspended three games and possibly thought about coming back," McGary said. "I don't have the greatest circumstances to leave right now [due to the injury]. I feel I'm ready, but this pushed it overboard.
"I don't think the penalty fits the crime. I think one year is overdoing it a little bit."
Michigan agreed, McGary said, and appealed the decision to the NCAA in early April. It was denied, however. Neither the university nor the NCAA would comment directly on the case or the appeal.
The NCAA is the worst organization in the world (that isn't FIFA). They just changed the penalty to a half-season—still ludicrously punitive for a substance that is heading towards legalization within a decade—and would still not relent, because think of the NCAA like a marching band full of assholes. Good on McGary for just talking about it. At least one party in this situation comes off like an adult.
Michigan's situation at the five is now pretty alarming. They've got true freshman Ricky Doyle and, now out of necessity, redshirt freshman Mark Donnal. Transfer Cole Huff now has a scholarship slot, though he would not be available next year.
Is the NCAA high? Am I high? WTF is going on? None of this makes sense.
Great start to the weekend...still waiting for someone to say APRIL FOOLS!! This is as bitter of a Michigan exit as Jamal Crawford's exit from Michigan.
Does this mean a HELLO: post for Cole Huff imminent?
Another case where an NCAA rule basically forced a kid to stop being a student-athlete. Whose interests are the rules serving, again?
weathered at the hands of the NCAA, while a lot of egregious sh*t went down in other places. The sense of proportion is just wack from one "crime" to another. Crawford, exercisegate, this. . . someone should put together the entire list.
Can the mgobanner headline simply now read" Fuck the ncaa"?
I'll seriously kick in money for that
I'm disappointed that Belein didn't say ANYTHING about the failed test & allowed McGary to stay on the team and travel with them. Seems kinda shady. Whatever...on to those who are still here.
The test results didn't come back until Michigan was already knocked out of the tournament.
Well, that's a different story. Thanks for the info.
My issue with this is the discrepancy between the NCAA rule and the Ann Arbor civil code. It's a misdemeanor in Ann Arbor and a small ticket if you're caught with marijuana or associated paraphaneilia. I get that it's against the NCAA's code of conduct, but I guess that I just wish that said code reflected campus reality a bit more. It's particularly frustrating in light of stuff like Glasgow's recent legal issues.
Glasgow made a mistake, but he could have killed someone. Yet despite this, he gets off with a relatively minor 1 game suspension, after which he'll almost assuredly start the rest of the season. This isn't a knock on Glasgow at all. From all accounts, he's a great guy who made a mistake. It happens. I just don't get why Mitch "deserves" a one year ban, while the NCAA is totally cool with a one game ban for Glasgow and the countless other guys who end up getting DUI's, beat their girlfriends, or end up winning the Heisman after mysteriously underinvestigated rape claims. How a governing organization can claim moral authority and then enforce their rules with completely arbitrary punishments is beyond me.
but the NCAA is a pretty diverse collection of schools, and "campus reality" varies a lot from place to place. Attitudes towards weed are a little different in Provo and Ann Arbor. Somehow the NCAA has to come up with rules that can satsify both groups (I'm not saying they have).
My senior year of college (2012-2013). I lived in a house on Tappan Avenue. Well just as the semester was beginning, at the corner of Tappan Avenue and Hill, there was a giant multi house party complete with security and a band playing. My friends and I attended said event. At said event there were tons of michigan players from various sports including recruits. (I recall shaking Shane Morris's hand and seeing LTT). There were also members of the basketball team present, in particular Trey and Mitch. Well at one point during the night we observed Mitch and trey walk behind a couple of portopotties. About ten seconds later they walk back out from behind said portopotties and blow smoke into the air. I cannot speculate as to what kind of smoke it was but it was clearly Mitch and trey. The party was later broken up to what I remember as about 20 cop cars and SUVs. A week or two later I see trey has been suspended for the opening game against NMU for a "violation of team standards." Putting two and two together this story does not surprise me at all.
You will be missed.
Damn you 2014, and Damn the NCAA.
have acted prior to the NCAA acting, if they had known he could potentially have tested positive? Could they have undercut them before making an announcement?
Unfortunately, during the NCAA Tournament the punishment is under the purview of the NCAA alone. Anything the University had done would have been trumped by the NCAA rules/punishments.
In regards to the NCAA:
I am baffled by the continued acceptance of alcohol and alcohol related crime while condemning marijuana.
I wish the positive test would have been leaked before the appeal. It's safe to say everyone outside the NCAA sees how absurd this punishment is. Maybe then the public could have some pressure on to lighten up the suspension, especially considering the NCAA changed their own fucking rule soon after.
Way to go NCAA. Be sure to keep these "random" tests to a minimum or you won't have any student athletes to go out there and provide for your family.
Going to be interesting to look back on this in 5-8 years while legally ripping a joint.
Boih years started with unexpected success in basketball (a run to the NC Game in 2013; a B1G regular season championship in 2014), and some initial optimism in football (recruiting in 2013; replacing Borges with Nuss as the OC in 2014).
As soon as the basketball season ended, unrelenting Death from Above (and below, and both sides, and front, and back, and teleportation from an alternate universe, and ...) unsued.
EFF IT! I chose to believe that an O-line with two NFL draft picks at tackle, and promising 4 and 5 star youngsters on the interior could only have been that bad with a complete cretin at OC who asked them to learn a fresh set of things they could be expected to do badly before each and every game of the season. Therefore, a new OC who is not a cretin and regression to the mean will go a long way towards being better (even with more 4 and 5 star youngsters at tackle).
I chose to believe that Taylow Lewan is a bad guy, as he has been described, and the removal of his negative leadership will also help the wnole team play better in adverse circumstances (which are plentiful at the time).
I choose to believe Coach Beilein really is smarter than the average Div 1 coach, and that just as he got Mitch ready for Syracuse's 2-3 zone in 4 days, he will find a way to morph his team into a highly efficient scoring machine, just as he has the last two seasons.
I chose to believe that Red has not forgotten how the coach hockey, and that with the departure of a couple of me-first stars and, again, regression to the mean, Michigan hockey will not longer be a team that can beat the #1 seed in the tournament, yet go 3-4 against the worst team in the Conference.
Finally, I chose to believe that Michigan has fully paid off its karmic debts (admitting that decades of success and arrogance built those debts pretty high), and that there are other programs (cough-cough) who are far juicier targets right now. Yet one more time, regression to the mean is our friend.
You could argue quite persuasively that my beliefs are unreaslistic. I don't care; I'm going to sleep before you can open your mouth. Wake me a week before the Appalachia State game; vengeance will be ours.
I am the great and powerful Emmert and I sentence you to ONE YEAR bannishment for your vile crimes against the kingdom. Now begone!
For the record, I would like to see Michigan's Central Student Government look into this a bit more and publish a report on how Beilein and Brandon handled this.
I"M KIDDING PEOPLE
just cuz no one responded to you didn't mean you needed to repeat it --in marginally different clothing.
Sad panda. Good luck, Mitch. Shit.
Today isn't as bad as the Martin scandal or the Horror, but I don't remember feeling this screwed. This certainly trumps any given bad call by a ref/official, and it's worse than the punishment for RR not counting ankle-taping as part of practice. I am filled with rage.
so randomly bad. That is what kills me. If he decided to go pro, fine. I could have dealt with that, I would be upset, but it would have been cool. This means 1) He was probably going to come back, 2) The NCAA just decided to test a player who wasn't even playing this year just, ya know, cuz, and 3) Now he is not coming back, not because he wanted to go, but because he can't come back. Like, why??????? This in a sport that should be trying desperately to hang on to pro caliber players. WHY? WHY? WHY?
Why should anyone get upset by a decision to pursue a career? If you are getting upset by a decision made by young people on whether or not to go pro, you need to step back and reexamine your priorities.
...you're missing the point. People didn't react this way - by and large - when Stauskas and GRIII declared. People are pissed because it seems like McGary wanted to come back - or at least was open to the idea - but had his hand forced by a draconian rule.
No, you are missing the point. The op states that if McGary would have gone to NBA on his own, without NCAA forcing it, he would be upset.
I certainly would be disappointed in that decision in that I would not be able to watch him play for my favorite team, but I certainly would not be upset. I would be happy for him on his endeavors.
I don't think you know what upset means. It's a word that is closer to disappointed than it is mad. I was upset that Michigan lost to Kentucky. I wasn't mad at anyone, just disappointed.
Where on earth are you getting the idea that McGary definitely would've gone to the NBA even if this b.s. hadn't happened with the drug test? No quote that I've seen today...
that is what you took from my post? You are on a Michigan sports website posting a comment and you are telling me that I should have no feeling either way when one of my favorite players decides to go pro? Did I say I would be upset with him? It appears you are having trouble digesting this announcement man. Reexamine my priorities? Seriously, WHAT THE HELL are you talking about and why are you here? Go away.
Are you seriously doubting something you posted just three posts above?
The quote is "I would be upset". And that is regarding if Mitch left on his own.
you're almost to China
said you would be disappointed. You are basing your objection to my post on the difference between upset and disappointed? Why would you be disappointed that somebody is pursuing their dream?
You were just pissed and looking for somebody to troll like a middle schooler.
people are upset about his decision to go pro. They're either upset because a) the NCAA forced his hand or b) he screwed up and forced himself to make this decision. Plus I think most of us believed he was coming back and to find he's not and this is why is just frustrating.
This whole thing is reminiscent of the Jamal Crawford fiasco. Would have loved to see both of these guys suit up for another year in the Maize & Blue.
I assume you were not around during the Jamaal Crawford days? That was even worse.
and Fuck the NCAA.
"good on McGary for just talking about it".... How many 'roid users can we think of could have gone this route to much better ends? He really seems like a good kid. Good Luck to him.
1 year for pot. You've got to be kidding me. It's not like it was steriods.
Is that McGary gets banned for a year for doing something ONCE that is now legal in some states, and "medical" in many others, while it seems that much more heinous activities are going on elsewhere (you know who you are) and the NCAA barely slaps a wrist.....
The OSU players who were involved in tatgate didn't even get suspended a year.
For a lighter take on this, the biggest of kicks in the balls by the NCAA, Adam Jacobi has some pretty funny comments on his twitter feed creating slogans for the NCAA's anti-pot campaign: LINK
— Adam Jacobi (@Adam_Jacobi) April 25, 2014
This was like a gut shot when I was scrolling through google news this morning on the train.
The rule is overboard but it's still a rule and it still does a very nice job of showing us what someone's priorities are.... and if someone thinks smoking a plant is more important than the benefits of their scholarship, then I don't have a lot of respect for those priorities. No, Mitch does not come off like an adult, because adults are better than that at weighing their priorities and don't purposely break the rules and then play victim. Best of luck to Mitch. Honestly. Because he's going to need it.
Best of luck to Mitch. Honestly. Because he's going to need it.
Apparently Wahoo moonlights as a super villian.
He already roots for Virginia.
No shit. OF COURSE a UVA grad would have this opinion. I know he posts here a lot, and sometimes it's pretty good stuff, but Christ, I wish he'd sit this one out. Yes, Mitch screwed up, no doubt. But being a snarky jerk about it and demonizing the kid...GTFO.
Fact is there is an element of randomness here that is especially disturbing. I have know idea whether there was a chance Mitch was coming back or not, but landing on a 1 year suspension from a plinko chip made of a single pot test is just not sensical. God knows how many of those chips I had/have bouncing around in my life (although drugs aren't in my mix).
"[A]dults are better than that at weighing their priorities and don't purposely break the rules and then play victim."
This is breathtakingly stupid. No one is condoning his drug use, but he IS a victim of a penalty that is grossly disproprotionate to the crime committed, as you and the NCAA have both acknowledged. There is no reason for the NCAA to force a kid out of school unnecessarily, which is exactly what they did.
I agree that it's a rule and should be followed...
...but damn, how many college athletes smoke pot? I have honestly never heard of this rule being enforced. It seems odd (not saying it's a conspiracy, it's just WEIRD) that it just so happens to be a Preseason All-American who was on the fence about leaving for the NBA after having just spent most of the season watching from the bench due to injury. If that failed test happens to Albrecht or Irvin or Donnal (not saying they would fail), they're coming back in 2015-2016. Even LeVert would probably stick around.
I mean, Stretchgate put Michigan on probation even though virtually every team out there does it. Now McGary gets caught smoking pot at the wrong time of the year (during the Tourney) and that essentially ends his college career.
I mean, this is really just a huge dong punch.