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An annual tradition. Remember: all weight changes are positive events.

This is slightly incomplete as the info sheet handed out at media day is either incomplete or the assembled numbers are—Heiko and Ace didn't get in on that sweet xerox action before they ran out. So a few players are stuck with question marks after their names for current weights. I've bolded changes or additions I find interesting.

QUARTERBACK
Player 2009 2010 2011 2012 09 to 10 10 to 11 11 to 12
Denard Robinson 185 193 195 196 8 2 1
Devin Gardner -- 210 205 206 -- -5 1
Russell Bellomy -- -- 189 201 -- -- 12
RUNNING BACK
Player 2009 2010 2011 2012 09 to 10 10 to 11 11 to 12
Fitzgerald Toussaint 185 200 195 203 15 -5 8
Vincent Smith 168 180 172 175 12 -8 3
Stephen Hopkins -- 230 228 235 -- -2 7
Thomas Rawls -- -- 219 217 -- -- -2
Justice Hayes -- -- 176 183 -- -- 7
Dennis Norfleet -- -- -- 170 -- -- --
Drake Johnson -- -- -- 203 -- -- --
Sione Houma -- -- -- 221 -- -- --
WIDE RECEIVER
Player 2009 2010 2011 2012 09 to 10 10 to 11 11 to 12
Ricardo Miller -- 217 234 ? -- 17 ?
Jeremy Gallon 165 180 185 186 15 5 1
Roy Roundtree 170 176 177 180 6 1 3
Jerald Robinson -- 199 206 ? -- 7 ?
Drew Dileo -- 172 172 180 -- 0 8
Amarah Darboh -- -- -- 218 -- -- --
Jehu Chesson -- -- -- 183 -- -- --
TIGHT END
Player 2009 2010 2011 2012 09 to 10 10 to 11 11 to 12
Brandon Moore 243 250 255 261 7 5 6
Jordan Paskortz -- -- 246 ? -- -- ?
AJ Williams -- -- -- 282 -- -- --
Devin Funchess -- -- -- 225 -- -- --
OFFENSIVE LINE
Player 2009 2010 2011 2012 09 to 10 10 to 11 11 to 12
Michael Schofield 268 293 299 302 25 6 3
Ricky Barnum 275 286 292 301 11 6 9
Taylor Lewan 268 294 302 308 26 8 6
Elliott Mealer 299 313 310 309 14 -3 -1
Patrick Omameh 276 299 299 306 23 0 7
Chris Bryant -- -- 341 320 -- -- -21
Jack Miller -- -- 263 287 -- -- 24
Blake Bars -- -- -- 282 -- -- --
Ben Braden -- -- -- 299 -- -- --
Kyle Kalis -- -- -- 292 -- -- --
Erik Magnuson -- -- -- 290 -- -- --
DEFENSIVE LINE
Player 2009 2010 2011 2012 09 to 10 10 to 11 11 to 12
Quinton Washington 325 315 302 299 -10 -13 -3
William Campbell 318 333 322 308 15 -11 -14
Kenny Wilkins -- 270 280 290 N/A 10 10
Craig Roh 238 251 269 278 13 18 9
Jibreel Black -- 265 260 276 N/A -5 16
Richard Ash -- 320 301 301 N/A -19 0
Frank Clark -- -- 228 260 -- -- 32
Keith Heitzman -- -- 251 ? -- -- ?
Brennen Beyer -- -- 225 252 -- -- 27
Nate Brink -- -- 263 272 -- -- 9
Matt Godin -- -- -- 270 -- -- --
Willie Henry -- -- -- 302 -- -- --
Ondre Pipkins -- -- -- 337 -- -- --
Tom Strobel -- -- -- 250 -- -- --
Chris Wormley -- -- -- 268 -- -- --
Mario Ojemudia -- -- -- 223 -- -- --
LINEBACKER
Player 2009 2010 2011 2012 09 to 10 10 to 11 11 to 12
Kenny Demens 236 250 248 242 14 -2 -6
Cameron Gordon 208 207 222 235 -1 15 13
Mike Jones 203 208 224 ? 5 16 ?
Jake Ryan -- 225 230 242 N/A 5 12
Brandin Hawthorne 198 203 214 220 5 11 6
Antonio Poole -- -- 212 ? -- -- ?
Desmond Morgan -- -- 220 230 -- -- 10
Royce Jenkins-Stone -- -- -- 206 -- -- --
James Ross -- -- -- 225 -- -- --
Kaleb Ringer -- -- -- 225 -- -- --
Joe Bolden -- -- -- 230 -- -- --
CORNERBACK
Player 2009 2010 2011 2012 09 to 10 10 to 11 11 to 12
J.T. Floyd 183 183 185 184 0 2 -1
Courtney Avery -- 174 173 173 -- -1 0
Raymon Taylor -- -- 169 183 -- -- 14
Delonte Hollowell -- -- 164 177 -- -- 13
Blake Countess -- -- 176 182 -- -- 6
Terry Richardson -- -- -- 154 -- -- --
SAFETY
Player 2009 2010 2011 2012 09 to 10 10 to 11 11 to 12
Jordan Kovacs 194 195 197 202 1 2 5
Josh Furman -- 208 208 204 -- 0 -4
Marvin Robinson -- 203 200 201 -- -3 1
Thomas Gordon 205 205 208 209 0 3 1
Tamani Carter -- -- 175 185 -- -- 10
Jarrod Wilson -- -- -- 190 -- -- --
Jeremy Clark -- -- -- 191 -- -- --
Allen Gant -- -- -- 196 -- -- --

NOTES!

Amarah Darboh is large. Jerald Robinson probably put on a few pounds but Darboh comes in as Michigan's heaviest wide receiver not converted from tight end by a good ten pounds. Hopefully he can step right into the lineup. Also, Jehu Chesson's coming in at a potentially college-ready weight.

Terry Richardson is small. A redshirt or broken tackles beckon.

WDE BEEEEFCAKE. Not a huge surprise since both entered as linebacker-sized dudes and are now being asked to take on tight ends and whatnot, but Beyer and Clark have added 59 pounds between them.

INTERIOR DL VEGANCAKE. Michigan's starting five-tech and three-tech are 278 and 276 pounds, respectively. That seems like it bodes poorly. Mattison is going to have to get very aggressive slanting those guys, because there's no way either holds up to double teams. Nate Brink is also struggling to crack 280, though he's got his injury as an excuse.

In better vegancake news, Will Campbell's halfshirt humiliation diet has him down to an extremely reasonable 308. Please be good.

Wasn't RJS supposed to be big? You could have gotten big odds that RJS would not have been the lightest incoming linebacker by 20 pounds. He's still listed at 6'2" and therefore seems like the guy best suited to be a SAM linebacker long-term (other than Bolden, but Bolden seems busy)… but it'll take a while to get there. Either I'm overestimating how big these SAMs have to be or we should be worried about the depth post Cam Gordon. Since both SAMs put on around 12 pounds to near 240, I'm choosing the latter until the 2013 edition of this post shows RJS +32 pounds or whatever.

Bryant and Miller will meet in the middle. Both head towards 300 in 20-pound increments. When they meet next year they'll hopefully be field-ready.

Willie Henry is a… at 6'2", 302 he's probably a nose tackle. No one else in the class on the DL is under 6'4" or over 270 save Pipkins, who is obviously also a nose tackle.

Chris Wormley's height. Okay, so he's listed at 6'4". Strobel is listed at 6'6". That picture I've posted a couple times does make that seem accurate. With the Godin height/weight (basically identical to Wormley) and the above bullet on Henry, we can confirm the proposed incoming DL spectrum from the Wormley recruiting post. From most NT to least NT:

  • Pipkins (NT only)
  • Henry (NT/3tech)
  • Godin (3tech)
  • Wormley (SDE/3tech)
  • Strobel (SDE)
  • Ojemudia (WDE)

Second-year corners. Are a lot less tiny.

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July 26th, 2012 at 3:25 PM
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This is all great news!

This is all great news!

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July 26th, 2012 at 3:26 PM
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Stokes

Didn't Stokes leave the program?

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July 26th, 2012 at 3:30 PM
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yup

I saw earlier he and his brother Malik are both indeed on Bowling Greens roster

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July 26th, 2012 at 3:58 PM
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Different Stokes

Watchu talkin' 'bout Willis.... ........

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July 26th, 2012 at 4:53 PM
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He transferred to

He transferred to BG.

 

http://www.annarbor.com/sports/um-football/ex-michigan-football-player-jeron-stokes-lands-at-bowling-green/

 

EDIT: couldn't tell if you were saying it was a different player named "Stokes". Going to assume you already knew since you posted in the "Exit Je'ron Stokes" post by Brian back in 2011.

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July 26th, 2012 at 3:27 PM
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Denard

A little surprised they only have him listed 1 lb heavier than last year. He looks like he put on some muscle in the offseason.

Thanks for the breakdown btw

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July 26th, 2012 at 5:24 PM
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Working out

He put on some muscle, but he also trimmed off all that flab.  Hopefully he won't be so painfully slow this year.

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July 26th, 2012 at 8:08 PM
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Denard

I sure hope your right. Tired of Pokey D!!!! And he can't cut a lane to save his soul!!!!

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July 26th, 2012 at 3:33 PM
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All the OL weighing over 300

All the OL weighing over 300 pounds is impressive. Michigan hasn't had an OL with every starter over 300 pounds since......

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July 26th, 2012 at 4:32 PM
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O Line weights

I was also pleased to see the weights over 300! And the Bama D average???

Love the summary, commentary & the app!!

My 1st post, so be kind!

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July 26th, 2012 at 4:38 PM
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well if that's a self-photo

in the avatar, I can assume you will be well liked around here. 

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July 26th, 2012 at 4:43 PM
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You have a thing for

You have a thing for retina-searingly white women with pointy clavicles and bug-eyed sunglasses? NTTAWWT, just wondering.

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July 26th, 2012 at 4:55 PM
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You forgot to mention great teeth!!

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July 26th, 2012 at 5:01 PM
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Well don't I feel like the

Well don't I feel like the fucking asshole.

Welcome, and if I can give you one piece of advice, it would be to ignore morans like me.

Also, check the white filter on yer camera.

But mostly welcome.

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July 26th, 2012 at 5:18 PM
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loleljeffejustgottold

Advice for you: distinguish between a stylistically enhanced B&W photo and actual skin color, look around and see large sunglasses as popular with the ladies right now, and learn to accept the clavicle'd. We're all alike deep down

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July 27th, 2012 at 2:39 PM
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ThaHip pic

Thanks for recognizing that there are fashionistas amongst the Michigan faithful. Sports chick & stylish are not mutually exclusive.

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July 26th, 2012 at 5:19 PM
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Thanks!

Incognito on purpose. I want to talk football. Learned my lesson on CGD!

I hope I can add value.

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July 26th, 2012 at 7:00 PM
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The correct response for dealing with jackholes around here:

Repeat after me

"I've been with more girls in one night than you have in your whole life, you butthurt dweller, and now that I've ended the conversation on my looks, which you started, we can get back to the football talk. And if you find it beneath you to speak of such things with a woman without including your pathetic assessment of her looks, kindly fuck off."

Well, maybe that's a little specific, but oh well!

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July 26th, 2012 at 7:35 PM
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I thought we had to use the Queen's English!

I will say no more about my pic, but when I get to know you all better, any who criticized it will eat their words!!! I know that as sure as I know that D. Rob will make us proud this year!!!

Time to watch the Tugers!!!

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July 26th, 2012 at 7:47 PM
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I approve of your photo.  And

I approve of your photo.  And I promise to treat you like a lady. 

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July 26th, 2012 at 8:03 PM
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Thank you

But I don't expect to be treated like a lady. My only request for special treatment is to give me time to learn this site before you call me out!! I appreciate the gesture. Forget the SEC southern gentlemen, I'll take a Michigan man any day!!!











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July 26th, 2012 at 8:40 PM
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In that case - there are at

In that case - there are at least 50 MGoDudes touching themselves to your picture right now.  That might actually be a low estimate. 

Get used to some salty language, Suz, and you'll get along just fine.

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July 26th, 2012 at 9:00 PM
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I'm a Navy brat. I think I can handle it!!!

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July 26th, 2012 at 9:02 PM
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Here's a tip

We love it when people are politically incorrect and type in all caps around here. The worse spelling and grammar you have, the better. Good luck.

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I'm convinced that you didn't

I'm convinced that you didn't come up with that. Someone has said that to you before.

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It's me.

I'm going to ease into this, but I look forward to spending more time here! Michigan 24/7!!

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Welcome to the Blog

Don't sit on that end of the couch, that's Ace's spot.  If you make a mess, clean it up.  Beers are in the frige. 

And try to utilize the Queen's English if at all possible.  /s

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Don't touch

the Mike's Hard though, those are Section 1's

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July 26th, 2012 at 6:39 PM
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Mike's

Even with a double shot of Citron??? Still Section 1?

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I wondered how a threat about players weights could get so many

Posts so fast. 

But you guys are all kidding yourself. This isn't a woman. It's just another of WIAB's identities. Roll Damn Tidette.

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Wow

Everyone who gained weight is going to be so much stronger!

Everyone who lost weight is going to be so much faster!

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Does anyone have any insight

Does anyone have any insight on which incoming WR (Darboh or Chesson) is more likely to see significant playing time, and if so, are they automatically above Ricardo Miller on the depth chart? I know that Darboh's frame is definitely college-esque, but I've also been reading that Chesson has shown greater speed than anticipated.

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July 26th, 2012 at 3:48 PM
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That is almost impossible to

That is almost impossible to say until they start practicing. Having a college ready body and actually being ready to play are totally different. No matter what, no one will be automatically over Miller, or anyone else. They will all have to prove it over the next month.

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July 26th, 2012 at 3:48 PM
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Probably not the answer you want

But I'm sure fall camp will answer your question. And Brian usually gets some good insidery info from that

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July 26th, 2012 at 4:04 PM
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If I had to choose, I'd say

If I had to choose, I'd say Darboh strictly because he's the biggest reciever we have.

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July 26th, 2012 at 3:50 PM
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Miller is a TE, is he not?

Miller is a TE, is he not?

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July 26th, 2012 at 4:11 PM
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He was. He is no longer.

He was. He is no longer.

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July 26th, 2012 at 6:11 PM
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Just curious where this

Just curious where this information came from on MIller switching back to WR? I haven't heard that over on other sites, and they have depth charts with Miller at TE still. Just wanted clarification.

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July 26th, 2012 at 7:09 PM
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It was posted on here a few

It was posted on here a few months ago.  Search it - shouldn't be hard since there hasn't been much Ricardo Miller news lately.

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July 27th, 2012 at 6:56 AM
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It happened right after

It happened right after spring practice ended.

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July 26th, 2012 at 3:56 PM
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GrowBlue
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Kenny Shrinking?

This strikes me as odd ... Don't we consider him as 'a ball of muscle'? Losing weight then means losing muscle? I know he's still beefy for a linebacker ... Just seems weird for him to shrink.

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July 26th, 2012 at 4:01 PM
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Remember the MGoBlog rule for

Remember the MGoBlog rule for interpreting weight changes: increase means the player is stronger.  Decrease means the player is faster and quicker.

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July 26th, 2012 at 4:00 PM
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Missing

Where's Jeremy Jackson?

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July 26th, 2012 at 4:12 PM
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Great point...

maybe those are his numbers under 'Stokes'? 

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July 26th, 2012 at 4:14 PM
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Is Frank Clark eating

Is Frank Clark eating MacBooks??

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July 26th, 2012 at 4:41 PM
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Things that are funny are

Things that are funny are never too soon. Also, maybe BWC lost weight with his short-lived and largely unsuccessful car-hurdling workout regimen?

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July 26th, 2012 at 5:33 PM
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Incentives

No, BWC lost weight because he wants to be Bo Duke more than anything else in the world, and his test run proved that adjustments need to be made for successful sliding.

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July 26th, 2012 at 4:44 PM
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Ah, this could account for a lot of things.

And the logo all but invites someone to take a bite.

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July 26th, 2012 at 4:23 PM
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Out of curiosity

Any pre-Spring ball comparisons for the EE from the freshman class?  Are those numbers even available? 

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July 26th, 2012 at 4:57 PM
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I don't have the real

I don't have the real numbers, but I would estimate that electrical engineers from the freshman class average around 5'8" and 160 lb.  As sophomores we can expect them to weigh around 175.

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