Hope you like Junior Colson hype [Patrick Barron]

Fall Football Bits Has Defensive Updates Comment Count

Alex.Drain August 15th, 2022 at 1:23 PM

Late last week was the first Fall Football Bits of the 2022 season, which centered on offense. The rationale was a lack of information about the defense, but with another week of practice in the book- and a Big House scrimmage taking place on Saturday- we now have enough information to check in on the defense. 

 

Defensive Tackle 

What we want to hear: Mazi Smith is primed for superstardom, Kris Jenkins is going to be the same player we saw against Iowa and Georgia, the young guys are coming and this position is the deepest it's been since 2016.  

What we're hearing: There's definitely no shortage of Mazi Smith hype. He appears to be a primary leader of the defense off the field and hype bubbled to a fever pitch after he was ranked #1 in Bruce Feldmans' annual "freaks" list over at The Athletic ($). Different insiders have used words like "tank" and "going to dominate" to describe Smith. Kris Jenkins has gotten comparatively little hype from the insiders, other than to say things like "he and Smith play well together". Harbaugh did give a shoutout to Jenkins on the Jansen pod, saying "very, very, very strong, fast, and quick and he’s improved a ton". 

While references to UCF transfer Cam Goode have been scant, the young'uns are seeing their names start to circulate, both the redshirt freshmen who now have a chance to see the field and the true freshmen who the staff looooooove. Among the second year guys, Rayshaun Benny has gotten the most buzz, appearing in a Josh Henschke update this weekend ($), and it sounds like he is on the two deep and poised to rotate in this season. George Rooks has not been mentioned as much, other than that he is in the mix to get playing time. 

It is undeniable how highly the staff thinks of Mason Graham and Kenneth Grant, both true freshmen. Both were named to us by one insider as two true freshmen who are guaranteed to play all year long, while a Balas update from the scrimmage noted that both guys rotated in on Saturday with regularity ($). Grant also showed up on the Feldman freaks list at #46 and most have now acknowledged that the Harbaugh quote about one freshman being a "gift from the football gods" was in reference to Grant. 

What it means: Smith and Jenkins are your starters. I don't really think there's anything wrong with the relative lack of Jenkins hype. This is a position like RB where we know who the starters are; Mazi gets hype because he's a team leader and they want to push his All-B1G case early, whereas Jenkins is penciled in as a ho-hum starter like Donovan Edwards. Benny and Goode are probably next up on the depth chart, with Rooks/Graham/Grant farther down but all seeing the field at some point. Freshman DTs Suck is still a general rule, so temper exectations in year #1, but the constant hype surrounding Graham/Grant is a pretty damn optimistic indicator for their long-term future/upside. 

[AFTER THE JUMP: Hype for a certain LB]

 

[Bryan Fuller]

Defensive End 

What we want to hear: Mike Morris is going to bust out in a big way, Jaylen Harrell has figured out how to rush the passer, Taylor Upshaw appears ready to stick in a larger role, and the young lotto tickets are going to play bit roles. 

What we're hearing: The news on Mike Morris is mostly good. He appears to be a leader of the defense at this juncture and was made available to the media last week on behalf of the defense. One report singled him out as one of the players having among the strongest performances in camp ($) on the whole defense, so it would appear he has one EDGE job locked up. The other is much more unsettled and the buzz here hasn't been uniformly great. 

While there was the Harbaugh quote about the EDGE pressure being better than last year, 1.) that is an insane thing to say or believe and 2.) there are no rumors that back that up. If anything, it would appear to be the biggest weak spot on the defense right now, understandable after losing two high-level NFL talents. Taylor UpshawJaylen Harrell, and Braiden McGregor all rotated in at EDGE during the scrimmage ($) and one source indicated to us that the position had a very bumpy performance on Saturday, which is requiring direct attention from Jesse Minter. Harrell did get the milquetoast "the staff has high hopes for him" quote in one report a week ago ($), while buzz on Upshaw/McGregor has been pretty non-existent. 

There have been some murmurs about younger contributors that may get to factor in. Another name in the rotation on Saturday was true freshman Derrick Moore. He was another name who made our source's list of first year guys likely to play all year and the reviews of the early enrollee are very positive, as they were in the spring. The more surprising name has only shown up in Josh Henschke's reporting, so it's hard to buy into until we hear more buzz... but, TJ Guy ($). Not a ton being said overall but there is reason to be intrigued that he could be in the rotation.  

What it means: This position is going to be considered the Achilles heel until it isn't. I buy that Morris is a solid player but the lack of another edge is a bit concerning. I think the hope right now is that they come up with different packages that work for different players and an effective mix of playcalls that work to each player's strength ends up in a decent rotation. I was reminded going through my notes from last year that the buzz in camp on the defensive line (especially DT) was very negative and then that mostly turned out to be not true (in a good way)? It could just be possible that Michigan's DL looks worse in practice because they are going up against the literal best OL in college football. 

Anyway the depth chart is the following: Morris is your starter at one spot, and then a hodgepodge of Moore/Upshaw/Harrell/McGregor holds down the other spot, with TJ Guy somewhere. 

 

Linebacker

What we want to hear: Junior Colson knows which way he's running this year, NHG has taken another step forward, Michael Barrett is ready for a Jordan Glasgow-like fifth year explosion, Joey Velazquez's massive biceps have him ready to tackle everyone he sees, and even Jaydon Hood is impressing. 

What we're hearing: I'm not sure anyone on the team is getting as much hype as Junior Colson is. After a true freshman season that provided plenty of reasons for optimism but also many (understandable) mistakes, the coaching staff wants everyone to know that he's made The Leap. Nearly every update from every insider comes with a "that Junior Colson guy is really good" line, and the term "All-American" is being thrown around in a rather cavalier manner. Phrases "beast", "seasoned veteran", and "outstanding" are not unusual in reports. 

The other starting spot appears to be held by Nikhai Hill-Green, but Michael Barrett doesn't seem too far behind. Balas confirmed that NHG was the other starter at the scrimmage on Saturday but a separate source informed us that Hill-Green tweaked something during the scrimmage. A number of players are dealing with minor, "soft tissue" issues ($). Barrett continues to be mentioned as a guy who is close to the starters, but the fact that Harbaugh quickly described Barrett as a "great special teams player" on Jansen's podcast makes me believe that he still will likely have a larger role there than on defense. We have heard good things about Barrett's offseason conditioning and muscular physique entering fall camp, though ($).  

As for the true reserves, discussion has been pretty sparse. Kalel Mullings is still practicing on defense in addition to his RB duties. Have to think this is the result of the depth at LB being pretty sparse. No real discussion of Jaydon Hood and Joey Velazquez besides one line that the team is hoping for one of the two to step up ($). That is a mention, but it is not hype. 

What it means: I think I'm buying the Junior Colson hopium right now. He was not particularly great last year, but no true freshman playing LB is going to be. The freakish athleticism is there and now with another year in the system to learn, I am buying the idea of a leap to All-B1G caliber. All-American level may be a bit high but I think he could be really, really good and that this hype isn't the ole Donovan Jeter 2019 bluster. NHG is your other starter and Barrett is next up after that. Beyond those three, it gets sparse, so please heal, NHG. This is probably the position on the team where Michigan can least afford a major injury. 

 

[Patrick Barron]

Cornerback 

What we want to hear: DJ Turner is going to continue his strong play from last season, Gemon Green has figured out how to play the ball when it arrives, Will Johnson is a bona fide stud, and Mike Sainristil is making the switch to defense look easy. 

What we're hearing: There hasn't been much DJ Turner discussion, but this one again feels like the Corum/Edwards bucket where we all know he's good and there's not much else to say. The team sent him to B1G Media Day which says about all you need to know in terms of what they think of him. Turner's athleticism has started to get more talk, though. Harbaugh left this surprising quote on the Jansen pod

DJ Turner, when he goes to run a 40, it could be sub-4.3. And Roman Wilson is right there with him. Those two run very, very similarly, close together.

Roman Wilson was toasting Ohio State's secondary in The Game; Turner running stride for stride is quite an accomplishment. That seemed a bit hokey until it turned out they had the evidence to back it up, as supplied to Feldman for the freaks piece. Turner was listed #31 on that piece with an official 4.28 40 (!), and a 6.29 3-cone time that would be very close to beating the all-time combine record of 6.28 (!!). 

On my spreadsheet of all the rumors I've collected, there's not a single mention of the name "Gemon Green" so far, which is a bit odd, but we haven't heard anything about injuries. Given that he was a starter in the spring, he is likely still a starter and there's not a ton to say. We do know he's alive because of this tweet from the team: 

Green will be a starter unless Will Johnson rips it away from him. Harbaugh described Johnson as "as good as advertised", while all the other insiders have said he will be a freshman who "plays all year". One insider was the first to proclaim Johnson a surefire starter "at some point" during the year on Saturday ($), while the others aren't quite there yet. Needless to say, though, you're going to see a whole lot of #2 on defense this year. 

Outside of those three, Mike Sainristil is continuing to get the buzz he got in spring ball. Balas described him as "no flash in the pan" at nickel ($) and Harbaugh said that Sainristil is practicing 80% with the defense. He is reported to be banged up right now as well, so there wasn't much news of him at the scrimmage, but seems like he is in the team's plans at corner this season in some capacity. 

There isn't much being said about any corners beyond that, as the other freshmen are just getting their feet wet. 

What it means: Turner is the #1 guy, Green is the placeholder starter and should be fine until Will Johnson is ready. The kid is coming on. Sainristil starts as the leader in the slot, but there is definitely a chance someone else is the nickel because [READ SAFETIES SECTION]. 

 

Safety

What we want to hear: RJ Moten and Rod Moore are back and ready to build on promising first years in the rotation, while Makari Paige is ready to jump in, and even some of the true freshmen may get to see the field because their abilities are so NCAA-ready.  

What we're hearing: If you're interested in Makari Paige buzz, I have some good news for you. Coaches and insiders want you to know that Paige is having a strong fall camp, on the heels of a good performance in the spring. After being passed by both Moten and Moore on the depth chart last year, Paige appears to be in the rotation for 2022. Rivals reported over the weekend that Paige has been running with the 1s ($) and that was confirmed with other reporting on the scrimmage rotation, on top of the earlier hype we've heard. 

RJ Moten and Rod Moore are the other two in what seems like a safety triumvirate at the moment. Moore, you may recall, was injured in the spring but Harbaugh confirmed on Jansen's pod that he's back to full health: 

Rod Moore, who didn’t play in the spring, had a surgery, but he’s back, flying around, doing Rod Moore stuff, and he’s leading, too — you ask where the leadership’s coming from, there’s a guy that you make an example to other players.

Not a ton being said about Moten, but chalk that one up to "steady starter doesn't need much buzz". Quentin Johnson would appear to be next up at safety. After being beset with years of injuries, Johnson looked good in the spring and word has it that he showed out in the scrimmage on Saturday ($). He isn't being mentioned in the same breath as the big three at safety, but if you made me guess who's #4, it might be him. 

The two blue-chip freshmen safeties are getting mentioned as well, Keon Sabb and Zeke Berry. Berry admittedly appears a bit behind Sabb (the cost of not enrolling early), but Harbaugh said that he's "a real football player" and then threw out the Rod Moore comparison. As for Sabb, he popped up in one insider report ($), noting that he's playing all over the field and being used in a variety of roles. Neither were mentioned in the list of true freshmen likely to play all year that we were supplied with, though.

What it means: Michigan went a lot of last year using three safeties in the rotation, and that number grew to four by the end of the year when Moore got involved. That was the result of going 4-2-5 as the base and using Dax in the slot. With the Paige buzz, it wouldn't stun me if they try that again. Perhaps they could use Moore in the slot, if he's better at it than Sainristil, and then have Paige and Moten as your two high safeties. Regardless, it seems like Paige is primed for a much bigger role than he had in 2021. After those three, I think it's Quinten Johnson and then Sabb/Berry mix in, ideally in garbage time. 

Comments

denverblue

August 16th, 2022 at 2:42 PM ^

Or even if it is 100% accurate, our fan brains want to believe that physical talent will 100% translate to on-field production, which our logical brains know isn't possible, but brains don't hold that kind of cognitive dissonance very well, so we take with greater weight the piece we want to believe.

Welschof is clearly a freak athlete and I'd love to see him breakout this year, but I'll believe it when the production matches the hype. Mazi and Turner are much more well-known quantities on the field, so I'm more likely to believe the hype from the freaks list.

Joby

August 16th, 2022 at 2:54 PM ^

I disagree, because these numbers align with what we saw with our own eyes. Go back and watch the OSU game. DJ Turner blanketed Olave, one of the fastest receivers in the country, the entire game (obviously the pass rush helped). The only reception he gave up was to Garrett Wilson, who had to make a spectacular catch over his shoulder while Turner had a hand on the ball. Same with Dotson.

 

They also showed a video of Mazi on the weight rotation machine effortlessly moving 400 lbs with one arm, and again with the other arm. As mentioned by others, it does appear that Michigan is feeding Feldman this info, and it’s an excellent recruiting tool. But they back it up with video.

 

Plus, why do the players such a disservice (and risk program credibility) if the players can’t repeat similar numbers at pro day or the combines? So far, the previous “freaks” from Michigan (Kwity, Hutch, Gary, others) matched or exceeded their freak stats at the combine.

Joby

August 17th, 2022 at 10:56 AM ^

If Olave ran a 4.39 at the combine and DJ Turner completely neutralized him, doesn’t that support the point that he’s really fast?

 

And I know the weight rotation machine is different than bench strength, but they had to ask the manufacturer to reconfigure the machine because Mazi was making the 300 lb max look easy. And he did 22 bench reps at 325, 100 lbs more than standard. That stuff may or may not translate into on-field production, but it is impressive.

BlueKoj

August 16th, 2022 at 2:28 PM ^

Thanks for the write up. Jenkins being a "ho-hum starter like Donovan Edwards" makes little sense to me as a statement. 1) is Edwards the starter -- no and 2) there's absolutely nothing about Edwards that is ho-hum regardless of the depth chart. His talent, his flash in 2021 and his 2022 hype are all way beyond ho-hum. I woulda thought sarcasm until it appeared with the relative Kris Jenkins quiet. I do think Jenkins will be very good this year. 

Michigan Arrogance

August 16th, 2022 at 2:42 PM ^

Roman Wilson was toasting Ohio State's secondary in The Game; Turner running stride for stride is quite an accomplishment.

 

Yeah, well don't read into this too much b/c there aren't any deadly snowstorms to play thru in August

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OldSchoolWolverine

August 16th, 2022 at 3:06 PM ^

You said most have acknowledged that Harbaugh was referring to Grant as the God's gift... but until Harbaugh does so, it could still be several freshmen, notably Graham, who handled Oluawatimi well.  But it is probably Grant.

JamesBondHerpesMeds

August 16th, 2022 at 4:01 PM ^

the fact that Harbaugh quickly described Barrett as a "great special teams player" on Jansen's podcast makes me believe that he still will likely have a larger role there than on defense.

Well, of course, Barrett is our kicker, punter, kick returner, and lead kick blocker.

Magnum P.I.

August 16th, 2022 at 4:07 PM ^

Defensive End

What we want to hear: Julius Welschof is slaloming around offensive linemen, doing flips over blocking running backs, and making sacks with his mind. He has the same body as Hutch with twice the athleticism and three times the dislike for humankind. Being touted as #1 pick overall in 2023 NFL Draft. 

willirwin1778

August 16th, 2022 at 5:10 PM ^

My tea leaves are reading really positive.

Man that is a lot of returning big ten champions all over the field and a year older. 
 

If national poll voters were more clued in we should be top 5 easy. 

AZBlue

August 16th, 2022 at 6:43 PM ^

I am taking this as addressed to Alex/MGoBlog rather than any of the posters - I apologize if I read that wrong.

You aren’t new here so I assume you have read these before and know that they are meant to be a summary of all the free info across the web with some added insight from the paysites and MGo’s own insider connections.   As they have previously noted Alex and Seth do not post any paywalled “scoops” when they freshly come out, share sparingly when they do pull excerpts, and provide a link to any paywalled article that they use. (Links with the $).

I am pretty sure they are on good terms with the folks at all 3 of the big sites and would hear from them if it was perceived as an issue.  If anything it may actually spur a few added subscriptions from those who want to read more….

Alex.Drain

August 16th, 2022 at 9:07 PM ^

yeah, the idea is that it's a win-win. We give our readers some extra info and we give more attention to those paid sites by publicizing them but still leaving readers to subscribe to get some more information we leave out. If there are issues, any of the three will contact us and we'll make changes. 

Montana41GoBlue

August 16th, 2022 at 6:54 PM ^

DL will take a step back, LB's will be improved, DB's will be mostly same.

In totality, will be a weaker D but not by too much.  

Our O should be slightly improved, so could be a wash. 

Expecting 10 wins but no victory against OSU this year.

But bloody hell we better defeat the Spartoons this year!!!

willirwin1778

August 16th, 2022 at 10:10 PM ^

I am betting this offense has a chance to be significantly better than "slightly improved"

We are returning "arguably" the best o line, running back, wide receiver, and tight end units in the entire country and our QB situation is really really good too. 

Everyone is a year older, which in football is an eternity, a game dominated by seniority.   

MGlobules

August 17th, 2022 at 8:38 AM ^

This meme of the player who discovers the football lying in front of him and runs the wrong way with it is a longtime football constant. My dad swore he made the varsity his sophomore year in high school because that happened to him and--after a moment's hesitation--he happened to run the right way and score a touchdown. Openly admitted he could have f'd it up. 

I'm smoking the hopium, too. I always do. Maybe if we can't rush the edge we can contain it. 

 

 

TESOE

August 17th, 2022 at 10:27 AM ^

Grant - YMRMFSPA - Gabe Watson?


This one, as well as the other stella football playas' bits, is on the coaches. Develop too early without heads-up hands-on ==> YMRMFSPA - Ondre Pipkins.


You don't get second swings on this type of 3-4 V 4-3 determinant. The Gods give and take - they don't give a rip about humans.

Graham and Grant will get up close and personal with Victor O - a seasoned strong Rimington special! Please let's have coaching that teaches not to lead with the head. At least they aren't facing the monster that was Molk who conducted TBI first.