Records of the 10 youngest teams in CFB
This board needs to take a chill pill and go with the flow for the remainder of the season.
I was listening to Michigan Podcast last night (good listen for all of you on the ledge) and a list of the 10 youngest CFB teams was brought up in a tweet by Michael Spath per Phil Steele.
The respective records are:
UM. 5-2
USC. 6-2
MSU. 6-1
Ill. 2-5
Duke. 4-4
Ark. 2-5
Pitt. 3-5
Stanford. 5-2
TAMU. 5-2
UF. 3-3
I'd say 5-2 is pretty damn good considering we don't have an Oline, QB, de facto RB or WRs like many of these other schools do. (Looking at you Stanford, USC and TAMU especially!!!)
I doubt a Jim Harbaugh Michigan is sitting at 5-2 with talent like Bryce Love, Sam Darnold, Stanford Olinemen, or Christian Kirk suiting up for the Maize n Blue.
Yes, we probably should be 6-1 but shit always happens against MSU.
We got 3 weeks of semi-decent teams to improve against until Wisconsin and OSU.
Relax.
October 25th, 2017 at 10:59 PM ^
should we be 6-1?
October 25th, 2017 at 11:01 PM ^
October 25th, 2017 at 11:45 PM ^
Harbaugh coached like he didn't realize a murderstorm was in the forecast. Then when it arrived, he still tried the passing game, which were basically throwaway plays until the last drive, when the rain was pretty much over.
Two weeks to prepare for MSU and you put no wrinkle out there, like designed rollouts for your athletic QB. And whatever running plays we tried to hold onto until PSU should've been used in that game.
We got outcoached.
October 25th, 2017 at 11:58 PM ^
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October 26th, 2017 at 1:25 AM ^
Turnovers may not be completely random, but the most turnover-prone team in the B1G not committing a single turnover in a monsoon while the opponent commits 5 turnovers is maybe a little random.
October 26th, 2017 at 11:16 AM ^
Michigan State got a lead early then went completely into turtle mode and minimized their risk of turnovers because they knew it was the only way they could lose. They also didn't play one of their most turnover-prone players LJ Scott. Yeah, they recovered two of their own fumbles, but one (the QB fumble) wasn't exactly a 50/50 shot at recovery.
Michigan had some bad luck - notably the two fumbles they lost, the enitire turnover differential wasn't due to luck. One team was calling pass plays with a new starting QB in a monsoon while the other was completely fine going three and out repeatedly.
October 26th, 2017 at 1:00 PM ^
It was an obvious anticipation to think that whoever was ahead at the end of the first half was likely to win the game. I did not see the urgency on our sideline.
October 26th, 2017 at 4:53 PM ^
denial is a SOB
October 26th, 2017 at 9:18 PM ^
MSU threw 9 passes in the 2nd half of that game; Michigan threw 12 before the final drive, when obviously they needed to do so to move the ball. This notion that MSU turtled for 2.5 quarters is completely revisionist; I don't think at any point did MSU look at 14-10 early in the 3rd quarter and say "I'm sure this will hold up; we should try to bleed the clock".
October 30th, 2017 at 3:53 PM ^
maybe turtled isn't quite the right word. They definitely threw the ball some, but it's not like they were playing super aggressive. Weren't throwing the ball downfield or running exotic plays. I'll say they were minimizing risk.
October 26th, 2017 at 6:55 AM ^
Fumble recoveries almost certainly are random. MSU's lost several this season, but against us, miraculously recovered all four (!) of the game's fumbles (2 by MSU, 2 by Michigan) - as well as their own muffed punt.
October 26th, 2017 at 10:46 AM ^
Well, both of our fumbles were off from really good strips by them. Their muffed punt is the only reason we scored a TD that game. We got the ball back at the 33 yard line to start our lone TD Drive.
Sick of making excuses, just win. How in the world is Dantonio 2-1 vs Harbaugh?
October 26th, 2017 at 10:55 AM ^
Whether or not the forced fumble was a good play is beside the point. Fumble recoveries are basically random. There's not really a science to how an oblong ball bounces.
October 26th, 2017 at 7:06 AM ^
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October 26th, 2017 at 9:08 AM ^
I'm confused, "you need protein" is a biological fact...
October 26th, 2017 at 10:52 AM ^
You are definitely wrong about cucumbers.
October 26th, 2017 at 8:27 AM ^
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October 26th, 2017 at 1:10 AM ^
We also play 3 RB's none of whom can pass block and all of whom have had fumbling issues this year. I'm sure it has nothing to do with the coaching though.
October 26th, 2017 at 10:05 AM ^
I still chalk that up to them being young though. None of the RBs though are true freshmen.
October 26th, 2017 at 12:25 PM ^
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October 26th, 2017 at 1:44 AM ^
So you'd be pretty annoyed with only winning by 4, but losing after giving up 5 turnovers doesn't do it?
Everyone knew a bad storm was coming. Dantonio played with urgency while the weather was good, and then pounded the rock and protected the ball when the rain started. We fucked around in the first half, and then decided to run an air raid in a monsoon even though Higdon was getting 5.5 yds a carry.
No it doesn't make Dantonio a wizard, and Harbaugh is the better coach. But giving the rbs 28 carries while having JOK throw 35 times in high winds and a downpour in his first start of the season is just flat out bad coaching.
October 26th, 2017 at 1:54 AM ^
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October 26th, 2017 at 9:08 AM ^
I get the hate of Dantonio, but I never understand the disrepect. Guy outcoached Harbaugh this time. I'd say the record is 1-1-1 on coaching in 3 games now, which isn't bad.
Dantonio has turned a bunch of 2 and 3 stars into B10 titles and a playoff appearance. And he's done it for over 10 years. What other coach can say that in today's game? The only coach who has consistently outcoached him is Nick Saban, and just about everyone can say that.
He's might be the best coach in the B10, but he is most certainly the equal of Harbaugh and Meyer.
October 26th, 2017 at 12:12 PM ^
I mean on coaching its definitely 2-1 Harbaugh.
October 26th, 2017 at 2:52 AM ^
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October 26th, 2017 at 9:22 AM ^
The funerals for MSU and ND during the offseason were fun since Dantonio is a dick and Kelly is the world's most irate person, but it always felt premature. It was perfectly reasonable to question those programs' directions after last season. But the same rationale being used to give Harbaugh the benefit of the doubt now- the long track records of success- probably should have been considered in thinking about whether those programs were going to implode long-term. Unfortunately, Bob Davie and Bobby Williams they are not.
October 26th, 2017 at 10:15 AM ^
Yep - same suit
October 26th, 2017 at 6:58 AM ^
Harbaugh coached like he didn't realize a murderstorm was in the forecast.How different is this game if we don't lose those two fumbles in the first half?
October 26th, 2017 at 7:51 AM ^
Probably a lot, since there's a good chance we're leading or at the very least trailing by only a single score at halftime and Dantonio suddenly has to take some risks of his own to try and win the game.
The MSU game wasn't Harbaugh's best job coaching to be sure, but can we please stop chalknig up MSU's victory to Dantonio's "genius". We gifted him 7 of his 14 points and then he spent the rest of the game running into our D-line and telling his defense and special teams to try not to make a mistake and give up a big play.
MSU didn't win that game, we lost it. We did the same thing in 2015. It sucks. MSU trolls will hoot and holler about how Michigan and Harbaugh are overrated and how we're making excuses, etc, but facts are still facts. Dantonio has yet to produce a game plan that out-strategizes Harbaugh's game plan. We stop shooting ourselves in the foot and we're going to stop having this debate.
It's a long wait until we face off again next October, but I have complete confidence that we're going to East Lansing next season and winning that game because we'll have Rashan Gary, Tarik Black, Khaleke Hudson, Devin Bush, Aubrey Solomon, DPJ, and so on...and MSU won't.
October 26th, 2017 at 7:57 AM ^
October 26th, 2017 at 8:04 AM ^
Yep and I stand by that statement. MSU isn't winning anything this season either. Neither team from the state of Michigan is particularly good this year.
October 26th, 2017 at 8:27 AM ^
October 26th, 2017 at 9:50 AM ^
That's not happening.
October 26th, 2017 at 12:31 PM ^
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October 26th, 2017 at 2:01 PM ^
But, we sure do a lot of disrespecting. "MSU didn't win that game, we lost it." Why is the world do you say that? They drove the field on us, and racked up more rushing yards than anyone until PSU. They pretty much gifted us our TD. Also, they dropped a sure first down near the 20 before halftime that would have easily been 3 points, maybe seven. They used the rain to their advantage and turtled pretty much the entire second half. You have complete confidence we'll win next year...how was your confidence this year? They mark our game on their calendar, and we laugh it off and say it's just another game, "they aren't a National brand."
"Disrespekt" MSU all you want. I tend to go with the fact they're a good team with an excellent coach, and it will take commitment and focus to beat them next year. They take this game seriously. It's time we do, too.