If Hoke is Retained...
I have read several times on the board today that if Hoke is retained they will basically quit watching/going to the games, and that will be the final straw. If he does stay on as head coach, what will you do? Sort of a fill in the blank, If Hoke is still here next year ___________.
For me, if Hoke is still here next year, I will conclude that we really can't have nice things.
It feels like the longer this drags out, the more likely this scenario plays out, but I really hope that is not the case.
December 1st, 2014 at 1:36 PM ^
December 1st, 2014 at 1:46 PM ^
If Hoke is still here next year, it only confirms my notion that this entire program is content with being mediocre, which I am not; therefore forcing me to place my fan card on temporary leave.
December 1st, 2014 at 1:37 PM ^
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December 1st, 2014 at 1:42 PM ^
December 1st, 2014 at 1:42 PM ^
beyond that, I would maybe watch a few games but my fall would certainly not revolve around college football any longer.
December 1st, 2014 at 1:42 PM ^
We've been through this with the lions and if people continue to support dogshit, management will keep trotting out dogshit. Stop buying Michigan apparel and tickets. Send a message to the university that the fans won't tolerate the dogshit anymore.
December 1st, 2014 at 1:45 PM ^
Not a lot will change. We are here day after day for a reason - we are fanatics. Plus, if Hoke is retained, he will likely make sweeping changes to his coaching staff - probably bring in another running backs coach, OL coach, etc. Maybe even Mattison will retire. There will be sacrifices made in the interest of undergirding renewal. And we will all have a glimmer of hope amidst our depression.
December 1st, 2014 at 1:45 PM ^
December 1st, 2014 at 2:02 PM ^
December 1st, 2014 at 1:49 PM ^
i will still watch just wondering if our AD is in over his head. GO BLUE
December 1st, 2014 at 1:50 PM ^
If Hoke is retained I won't purchase season tickets, but I will still watch all the games.
December 1st, 2014 at 1:50 PM ^
December 1st, 2014 at 1:51 PM ^
...I will hope that with an improving offensive line and a decent defense, somehow our football team will get its act together.
If that doesn't happen, then I'll probably keep watching games, but make less of a big deal about them. I will go to fewer games in person, and pay less for tickets when I do go.
December 1st, 2014 at 1:55 PM ^
the games, but probably not in person. Unless of course $9 tickets become the norm on Stub Hub.
December 1st, 2014 at 7:43 PM ^
will be on the 50 yrd line.
December 1st, 2014 at 1:55 PM ^
....I'd hope that what looks obvious to most of us (that he is not a great coach) is in fact untrue. Winning solves a lot of problems, after all.
Unfortunately, I doubt that's the case and I don't see the roadmap to future success. In fact, I'm having a hard time figuring out how ANYONE sees that roadmap. For all the talk of inexperience (which is real), how many <6 win teams in power 5 confereces go on to win >9 the next year? I can't think of any. If he stays, maybe we in 7 or 8. Maybe.
December 1st, 2014 at 1:56 PM ^
December 1st, 2014 at 1:56 PM ^
December 1st, 2014 at 2:15 PM ^
10 wins eh? Those maize and blue tinted glasses are blinding.
December 1st, 2014 at 2:23 PM ^
December 1st, 2014 at 4:08 PM ^
I think you mispelled "4 games"
December 1st, 2014 at 4:09 PM ^
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December 1st, 2014 at 2:02 PM ^
I just can't get very excited about next season if Hoke is still around. He's blatantly gotten worse every year that he's been here, and I see little reason to believe things would change next year. The writing is on the wall, and I don't see how you can keep the guy after a year where everything that could go wrong did go wrong. Things that we thought couldn't get worse did get worse, and that's completely disregarding all the off the field incidents.
If we keep Hoke, I'll still watch the games and support the team, but it will convince me that our athletic department is an antiquated network of good ol' boys who protect their own, who tolerate and accept mediocrity as being good enough, and who wake up every morning wishing it was the 1970s and that Bo was still our coach. That's what I essentially think now anyway, but it will make me afraid that it's a problem that will take years to get gutted and rooted out.
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December 1st, 2014 at 2:11 PM ^
I think I might be able to manage a couple of hours of dumbstruck silence. Followed by the a blind drinking rage. But thats just me
December 1st, 2014 at 2:17 PM ^
If hoke is retained
@ utah L
Oregon State L
UNLV W
BYU L
@Maryland L
Northwestern W
MSU L
@ Minnesota L
Rutgers L
@Indiana W
@Penn St L
OSU L
3-9, RichRod Laughs
December 1st, 2014 at 7:50 PM ^
December 1st, 2014 at 2:20 PM ^
December 1st, 2014 at 2:21 PM ^
It would confirm that Michigan is not serious about becoming a national power again and they are happy with being pretty much irrelevant in the landscape of college football.
December 1st, 2014 at 2:32 PM ^
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December 1st, 2014 at 4:37 PM ^
Not relevant on the national stage? We're on ESPN every day.
December 1st, 2014 at 7:48 PM ^
"What if a football program climbed inside a dumster and set itself on fire?"
December 1st, 2014 at 2:38 PM ^
And will go to every game, support the team and enjoy tailgating and being in AA. Old age provides perspective.
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December 1st, 2014 at 2:48 PM ^
December 1st, 2014 at 2:51 PM ^
December 1st, 2014 at 2:56 PM ^
I would be pretty angry, because I still want to believe that this football program can be relevant on the national scale. The fact that we have another corporate-minded (interim?) AD with ZERO credible experience for the function is discuraging enough because it shows that the University may not "get it". I am very uncomfortable watching the winningest program approach the defibrillators with its weary fan base who diagnosed the obvious demise and its causes much faster than the inept leadership.
December 1st, 2014 at 3:00 PM ^
...RichRod's 3-9 2008 season record is in serious jeopardy.
I will watch all I can out of morbid curiosity, to see just how bad things can get.
Because next year, Devin Gardner's gone. And this staff hasn't shown the ability to develop a quarterback worth a damn.
December 1st, 2014 at 3:23 PM ^
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December 1st, 2014 at 3:24 PM ^
December 1st, 2014 at 3:47 PM ^
hell, i was born in Ohio and yet would never think of taking things that far.
December 1st, 2014 at 4:09 PM ^
December 1st, 2014 at 3:31 PM ^
I will continue doing what I have been doing for the last 7 years, which is watching the games and frequently checking this blog.
December 1st, 2014 at 3:38 PM ^
December 1st, 2014 at 3:45 PM ^
so no worries. you can calm down now and think about something insightful to post. or, hey, just do your work. you do work, don't you?
December 1st, 2014 at 4:09 PM ^
(or the new hire seems likely to do little better) I will relax and recall (dimly) what football was like before Bo arrived: an excuse for students at a good university to enjoy inexpensive entertainment and camaraderie on a pleasant Saturday afternoon, drinking cider and cheap, sweet wine, and being thrilled when the team won, not the least upset when it didn't. In short, I will be able to watch games without my pulse racing and my blood-pressure through the roof. UM will be like Northwestern and Stanford used to be: schools with players more closely resembling actual student-athletes, who would win just often enough for us to get a charge out of knocking off a traditional power.
Something to keep in mind: Remember the line in The Big Chill? "These guys always break your heart." It's true: ever since WWII ended, Michigan has accomplished something big (e.g., '97) only once in a great while. The rest of the time, they have played down to the level of their competition (e.g., vs. Navy) or up (OSU in '69, Oklahoma in the '76 Orange Bowl, in a loss), but seldom consistently as the dominant team. Our record in the Rose Bowl--especially against SC, but more generally vs. the former Pac 10--tells the story we don't really want to own.
I will always bleed maize and blue; will always get chills when "The Victors" is played; will always love the winged helmet; the tradition; the Whiskey half-time show; the streams of spectators converging on the stadium, the warm, fresh cider on sale (a gallon for a buck); the empty bottle of wine being passed to the top seats; the occasional cheerleader being kidnapped and passed all the way to the top row (I *don't* advocate that, or all-male cheerleaders or an all-male band, *today*), etc. Michigan football used to be fun. Now it's like taking a big exam every weekend in the fall and being depressed if you don't ace it.
All that said, I'd love some B1G championships and a national one before I die. But the alternative is not as bad as you might fear.
December 1st, 2014 at 4:12 PM ^
but then I watched 0-16.
December 1st, 2014 at 6:42 PM ^