Quick Turnaround for the Football Team?
Keeping in mind that I tend to skew optimistic when it comes to all of my favorite sports teams, I believe the Michigan Football team can be quickly turned around, assuming an effective coaching staff can be secured.
Looking first at the offense...
The team will return nine or ten (depending on what Funchess does) of its offensive starters. A quick review of the current depth chart also reveals that there is only one senior back-up (Joey B). So, we are returning 19 or 20 of the 22 players on the two-deep. Plus we get Ty Isaac on the field.
Has this team underperformed offensively? Yes. But, has there been improvement in certain areas (i.e., the line and the rushing game)? Yes. The reality is that next year's two-deep is going to be stocked with juniors and seniors who were 4* and 5* players coming out of high school. It is difficult to believe that these players, who were highly coveted by other top programs, are all busts.
With the right coaching and scheme, the offense should be able to put points on the board. QB is a major question mark, of course...
Turning to the defensive side of the line, the story is similar.
The team loses three starters...Beyer, Ryan and Taylor. Plus Hollowell off of the two-deep. So, including a fifth DB as part of the depth chart, the team loses four of 24 players on the entire two-deep. And we get Peppers and Morgan back from injury.
In summary, the team loses the following starters, with the replacements indicated...
Gardner (?), Beyer (Poggi or Charlton), Ryan (Morgan or Ross or McCray) and Taylor (Peppers or Stribling or Countess).
Other than Gardner, there are easily identifiable replacements for each of the four.
The entire 46-player two-deep will be packed with 4* and 5* players going in to their 3rd, 4th and 5th years. It is true that stars don't always translate in to success. But it just seems impossible that this staff missed the mark on so many players. With the dozens of highly ranked players who will be on the roster next year, there has to be 35 of them who can excel on gameday. There is talent there. It has to be an issue of coaching.
Plus, there will not have to be the type of roster rebuild that was necessary in 2011 and 2012.
With the right coaching, schemes, and motivation,I believe this can be a very successful (10-2 or so) team in the first year of the new regime.
November 24th, 2014 at 12:10 PM ^
Godin I think is one pass rush hope. Very, very small sample sizes, but he has 1 sack, 1.5 TFL, and one interception this year. Yes only 4 tackles overall. He hasn't played that much. Move him to DE.
He's collapsed the pocket on several occasions, either by getting small and penetrating or by effort or brute force. He didn't get sacks on those pressures but he helped run the QB into someone else. There's too many guys inside and not enough DE's, move him out.
November 24th, 2014 at 9:49 AM ^
I've been hoping to put together a thread / diary on potential 5th-year QB transfers, but I haven't found much online that would make that easier. Braxton Miller could potentially become the most sought-after QB transfer to date, but something tells me he's not coming here (and he says he's returning to OSU). Does anyone know who else is out there this offseason?
November 24th, 2014 at 9:53 AM ^
November 24th, 2014 at 11:42 AM ^
I have also been trying to find some information - I am not really sure where to even start. It would be a huge boost if we can find any stabilizing force.
November 24th, 2014 at 12:24 PM ^
November 24th, 2014 at 2:47 PM ^
There may not be an upgrade, but I don't think our QB play will be any worse.
November 24th, 2014 at 9:48 AM ^
I do think the talent on this team should make it easier to attract a quality coach. This is not a team with the kind of holes and question marks that RR and Hoke each inherited.
November 24th, 2014 at 9:56 AM ^
Agree. There should be enough on the team to have 9-10 wins immediately.
November 24th, 2014 at 9:52 AM ^
Yes, a quick turnaround should be expected.
Remember on D we get Desmond Morgan back at ILB. I really like the way Bolden has improved this year. Gedeon available as well. Interior DL is stocked with options (though some of these guys need to play better). I hope they move Godin out to DE, he can handle it and he'll bring better pass rush than Beyer has the last few years. Ojemudia had a pretty good day Saturday, Taco can improve. Poggi should at least be a Beyer. And Peppers at CB with a full year of understanding the playbook. And it would be nice if we had a coach who bluffed a blitz, or called it and backed out when the Offense adjusted their play. And handle a tempo change.
QB the glaring weakness as others have said, along with WR. But I also like the way the OL has developed over the year. RB options everywhere. Should be a good team next year. But QB is such an important position in CFB, it can give you 2-3 wins either way just at that position. I don't think it can be much worse than this year, but we'll see. For the love of pete stay with the zone block scheme.
November 24th, 2014 at 9:53 AM ^
If we get Haraugh, you bet a quick turnaround with a possible run at the B1G east.
If we get one ot he top 4 coaches behind Harbaugh, probably a quick turnaround.
If we get an also ran coach. We will not and recruiting will suffer. Everyone will be talking about the class of '15 or lack of one surfacing by 2018.
November 24th, 2014 at 10:58 AM ^
"Haraugh" brought an image of Scooby-Doo to mind.
November 24th, 2014 at 9:55 AM ^
Tell yourself, tell your friends, shout it from the rooftops...
Do not expect or depend on a quick turnaround. Good coaches can win with existing rosters. Great coaches have long term plans for turning around/building a program. We want the latter.
Regardless of who our coach is next year, they should be given 5-6 years before being judged based on the results on the field. We want a coach who can recruit and develop, eventually replacing seniors with upper classmen who fit his system, style, and game plan.
This is how you become great again.
November 24th, 2014 at 11:26 AM ^
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November 24th, 2014 at 9:57 AM ^
Would be confident in the personnel of his 'Damn Strong' Michigan team in autumn of 2015.
(Also: note coach using headset for strategy purposes)
November 24th, 2014 at 10:05 AM ^
If we get Miles, I'd be fine with him taking the headset off and disengaging a bit from in-game decision-making. My sense is that Miles is using the same kind of CEO-coach approach that Hoke is using (but effectively), and having seen many of Miles' late-game decisions, I think liberally delegating to his assistants is a damn good move.
November 24th, 2014 at 10:23 AM ^
What is this you speak of?
November 24th, 2014 at 10:00 AM ^
to step up, one of the young ones. Even if Funchess stays they need a fast slot receiver or a deep threat. I think Harris, Damario Jones or Canteen could be it.
November 24th, 2014 at 11:49 AM ^
Agree on your first sentence. Boggled by 2 of your candidates. Jones has had all year to win a job in a thin WR corps and barely plays. Canteen is not a speed merchant. Haarris was but 2 years of bad hamstrings may have robbed him of that. Plus relying on freshman is not a great probability.
November 24th, 2014 at 2:20 PM ^
any of them has a number of reasons why they might not be good next year, but I think if we get a good one it'll be from that group. They're all true freshmen this year and could be significantly improved next year especially with new coaching/conditioning and just time in general.
November 24th, 2014 at 10:05 AM ^
Should be very easy for a coach to come in and win right away. We lose Frank Clark and Brennan Beyer on defense and we plug in Jabrill Peppers for Taylor and Desmond Morgan for Jake Ryan. The offense will lose Gardner but Malzone, Speight, or Morris can't be any worse or can they? Also you have the big ten factor where a few coaching improvements could lead to wins over Maryland, Rutgers etc. and get up to 9-10 wins. If Funchess comes back that will help.
November 24th, 2014 at 10:28 AM ^
we will still be a 5 or 6 win team. fixing the qb position is everything (unless we can suddenly become run gods)
November 24th, 2014 at 11:07 AM ^
A really good coach can maximize his strengths. If he can get the O line to gel a little bit more to being average, and really maximize the (to me burgeoning) talent of the RB's, we could have a below average QB and still win 8 games in the B1G based on running and short, high percentage passes, assuming the D can continue as well as it has.
I'm always amazed at how sometimes a coach can come into a college program and have results far more quickly than in the pros.
There is alot of risk,but the upside is there.
November 24th, 2014 at 11:07 AM ^
A really good coach can maximize his strengths. If he can get the O line to gel a little bit more to being average, and really maximize the (to me burgeoning) talent of the RB's, we could have a below average QB and still win 8 games in the B1G based on running and short, high percentage passes, assuming the D can continue as well as it has.
I'm always amazed at how sometimes a coach can come into a college program and have results far more quickly than in the pros.
There is alot of risk,but the upside is there.
November 24th, 2014 at 10:05 AM ^
"Regardless of who our coach is next year, they should be given 5-6 years before being judged based on the results on the field." UM didn't do that with RRod and doesn't look like the case with Hoke either. What are you talking about? so Hoke gets another year, minimum, right?
November 24th, 2014 at 10:10 AM ^
no one knows.
It will entirely depend on who we get as coach, and when.
And even then, no one will know until next year come fall.
November 24th, 2014 at 10:19 AM ^
but what's a blog without speculation!? Speculation is fun!
November 24th, 2014 at 10:29 AM ^
Agree - Mucho Funno ...
November 24th, 2014 at 10:56 AM ^
Especially baseless speculation. That's the best kind!
November 24th, 2014 at 10:13 AM ^
2015 was always going to be the year the roster matured. Question is are they willing to risk wasting that by keeping Hoke and crew. At this point recruiting will be secondary to making sure there is effective coaching for what should be a very good 2-deep.
For right now I just want the best coach for the players here now.
November 24th, 2014 at 10:23 AM ^
A lot of the diaries and analysis that have been done this season more or less revole around one central theme, at least if you go by the numbers - you have this interesting situation where a lot of good players are on an undercoached team, if you will. The theory, which seems relatively sound, is that bringing in the right staff could potentially provide that extra nudge that is missing right now, and of all the years with the players we have, 2015 would be an interesting year to see how / if that is what it is.
November 24th, 2014 at 10:50 AM ^
If you wanted to make a case for keeping Hoke, which I'm not trying to do, this would be it. That he's one year away and the last few years have been a perfect storm of inexperience (mainly O-line), bad luck, injury, and whatever else. That combined with the improved academic situation leads me to think someone may push to keep him one more year. If that were to happen you'd be looking at a long offseason of unrest, and a total disaster if next year doesn't go well.
I think they just need a different coach who really understands what it takes to function at this level and next year could be special.
A few years back everyone scoffed at the notion of a Randy Edsall here. I don't think there's any question we were outcoached Saturday and that should tell you all you need to know. There are many coaches who could be more effective here right away.
November 24th, 2014 at 10:19 AM ^
The biggest thing we need is a QB that can make plays and not turn the ball over. None of our current guys have proven they can do that. Depending on who is hired as Head Coach, Malzone might end up a four year starter. His high school film looks better than Speight's and Shane's did. The 2015 season will depend largely on finding a QB that won't turn the ball over.
November 24th, 2014 at 10:21 AM ^
It still amazes me that Hoke couldn't take that roster to a damn bowl game.
November 24th, 2014 at 10:25 AM ^
and so far there is no reason to be optimistic about the qb position.
November 24th, 2014 at 10:29 AM ^
November 24th, 2014 at 10:36 AM ^
That's why we need a pro style coach. No need to destroy everything and build back up when we have done that the last two coaching cycles.
November 24th, 2014 at 10:40 AM ^
Pretty much echoing what everyone is saying, it really depends on the coach.
Ideally, this team has the talent to be an 9-3 or even better, but that coach needs to bring an edge to the team, be it physical or psychological. I look at Hoke, and I wonder about his ability to inspire and push kids. No doubt, he's a nice guy, but some kids are motivated differently.Strength and conditioning was noted as well(I think in a Bacon interview) as a glaring deficiency to NFL scouts.
Most importantly for the new coach, is WHO WILL BE ON THE STAFF? You could argue that position coaches are the most underrated aspect of a college team, because they are the ones who spend more 1 on 1 with the players, teaching technique and the cerebral aspect of the game (reads, keys, etc).
If we want a quick turnaround, we need a coach who will fulfill all these things.
Yes, I'm talking about Harbaugh.
November 24th, 2014 at 10:41 AM ^
As you pointed out, this team will go only as far as whoever is playing QB can take us. Certainly a lot can change, but Morris has given us very little reason to believe (so far) he's going to pan out. Then again, with the right coaching (perhaps even Harbaugh's tutelage, if he comes here), Morris could very well live up to his recruiting ranking. The potential is absolutely there. But if not, maybe it'll be time to give Speight the reins.
The defense should be alright as long as we get a sound defensive coordinator. There's a lot of talented guys there with a lot of playing time and experience. The running back stable is filled, even with Weber decommitting. The O-Line will be full of 4-5 star upperclassmen who, with the right coaching, should finally start hitting their stride. It could be average, dare I say even good next year. Wide receivers could be good to very good with guys like Darboh, Canteen, Harris, and potentially Funchess if he comes back.
Again, most positions could turn out just fine next year as long as we get a good coach. The talent is all there barring any mass exodus of transfers. The problem is just that we have no QB right now, so that means we could go anywhere from conference contender to scraping by just to make a bowl game.
November 24th, 2014 at 10:53 AM ^
I agree with 99% of what you wrote but I have a hard time thinking that Morris is as bad as DG. In my opinion I think it was Hoke loyalty to a Senior then pure perfromance based. And yes I watched the Minnesota game, but I also watched the 10 others that DG played.
November 24th, 2014 at 12:39 PM ^
But again, that could change next year.
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November 24th, 2014 at 10:46 AM ^
Defense there is Pipkins, Peppers, and ... ?
Offense? Kalis, Green, and ?
I'm going by Rivals, maybe other services were more generous.
November 24th, 2014 at 12:14 PM ^
That's a lot of five stars to have on your roster at once.
For comparison's sake, State has one five star in the last four classes (McDowell) and only 14 total four stars. We've had 42 four/five stars in that same period. Forty-two.
WE HAVE THREE TIMES AS MANY ELITE RECRUITS ON OUR ROSTER AS MSU.
November 24th, 2014 at 1:32 PM ^
November 24th, 2014 at 2:22 PM ^
Hoke supporters is down to Mattison and that's it. Maybe, but hopefully not Jim Hackett.
November 24th, 2014 at 10:49 AM ^
With Devin no longer our QB, and a real coach that prefers performance over loyaly to a player, I can't see why we don't improve.
November 24th, 2014 at 2:07 PM ^
I see this a lot..but when it comes to QB I don't think its about loyalty...from all indications DG is light years better than Shane at this point....as unfortunate as that may be. Shane got a real shot and it was a disaster.
I really hope Shane comes around....and proves everyone wrong.
November 24th, 2014 at 10:51 AM ^
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November 24th, 2014 at 10:56 AM ^
Defense is lacking is a pass rush from the front four. It's been a problem for a couple seasons now. That most likely needs to be fixed via recruiting.
Offense is going to take a while to turn around most likely. The o-line has improved but is still inconsistent. Next couple of seasons I expect the O-line to be at least pretty good, if for no other reason than they'll be very experienced by then.
Our RB's and WR's appear to me to be big, athletic, but a bit slow. They don't seem to get open. We don't seem to have a deep threat either, maybe that could have been Funchess, but that just hasn't worked out. Again this is something needs to be fixed through recruiting, we need a couple speedy guys at WR.
Anyway , I don't see a quick turnaround. Not one season anyway. Two or even three.