CC: Bob Stoops in play?

Submitted by SalvatoreQuattro on

http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/travis-haney/post?id=3840

 

I can only read part of this article, but this is the second article in a matter of days that suggests Stoops ought to leave Norman.

If he does come available than he(in my mind) is 2nd or 3rd on the list. He fields good defenses, runs a spread, and has a national title. If Harbaugh is a no-go than Stoops would be a very strong second option if he is willing to leave Norman.

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MichiganStudent

November 9th, 2014 at 7:41 PM ^

Stoops:

.798 winning percentage

54 years old

8-7 bowl record that includes: 1-1 Cotton Bowl, 1-0 Rose Bowl, 1-1 Orange Bowl, 1-1 Sugar Bowl, 1-2 Fiesta Bowl, 0-1 NCG.

 

Mullen:

.616 winning percentage

42 years old

3-1 bowl record that does not include any big time bowls.

 

I think you can make a strong argument that Oklahoma is an "easier" place to win versus Mississippi State. However, Stoops is a proven commodity over the long-term. If you want a sure thing, Stoops is a no brainer.

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trustBlue

November 9th, 2014 at 11:21 PM ^

It would be tough for me and it shouldn't be tough for anybody that compares their respective coaching records.   Mullen is finally having a great season, but Stoops is one of the top 3-5 most accomplished coaches in all of college football.  

Its closer between him and Jim than him and Mullen.

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ThadMattasagoblin

November 9th, 2014 at 7:17 PM ^

I'd take him as my # 2 behind Harbaugh. I just want to know what's happened to them since 2009. They used to run over the big 12 with Adrian Peterson and Sam Bradford. Now they're good but they drop some games that they should win.

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J.Madrox

November 9th, 2014 at 8:06 PM ^

Sustained winning is hard, thats what happened to Stoops and Oklahoma. Look across the college football landscape, other than Saban and maybe Meyer during his tenure at Florida no one really puts together multiple serious national championship runs over multiple years.

In addition, in 2012 Stoops went 10 - 2 overall and 8 - 1 in the Big 12 and in 2013 he went 10 - 2 overall and 7 -2 in the Big 12. Unless you honestly expect them to go undefeated every year that is a pretty darn impressive last two years.

I realize you said Stoops was number 2, so you aren't saying he is a bad coach, but no one has as long a tenure with high expectations like Stoops and doesn't go through a few years where fans say they drop games they shouldn't.

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mGrowOld

November 9th, 2014 at 7:18 PM ^

At 5.25MM a year Stoops is the second highest paid coach in the country trailing only Saban at 7.3MM.  Do you think Michigan is prepared to pay in 6-7MM range for Stoops?  He just signed an extension and got a nice raise last season so I'm not sure we could get him unless we were prepared to pay him Sabanesque dollars and I, for one, dont think he's worth that.

 

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SalvatoreQuattro

November 9th, 2014 at 7:26 PM ^

Frankly, at this point I'd overpay if it meant getting a coach who has won a national title,played for another, and won 8 conference championships.

The guy has a resume that matches up with Meyer and he just whipped Saban in a bowl game. If he is souring on OU(which I kinda doubt)than by all means pursue him.

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Leonhall

November 9th, 2014 at 10:11 PM ^

of all, let me clarify my previous post, Michigan is a top 15 University in America, speaking athlete wise we don't let everyone in, but it's not like we are Harvard in the athlete regard. Now, Beckam, you're correct, he isn't getting into Michigan, nor should he. IF Stoops were hired, he obviously would not be bringing in kids like that, however, like I said, Michigan can get GREAT players, see the past 4 years. Coaches are not going to be concerned about whether they can recruit great players here. For us, we just need somebody to develop our talent, I think Bob Stoops would be a HOMERUN hire. I really want Harbaugh, if he is sick of the NFL, he'll be here, if there is an ounce of doubt in his blood about whether he wants to coach college right now, then I think he'll either be in Oakland or its looking more and more like the Bears could be looking for a new coach. Chicago would be spot I assume Harbaugh would like, although, the Bears are not known for paying a lot for their coaches, who knows if they would offer...

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Danwillhor

November 9th, 2014 at 11:37 PM ^

I keep reminding the Mullen guys of this but it goes out the window. Stoops also has the same issues but a bit less. The issues? Both can (and do) take juco players at will and on a need basis. They can afford to miss or be wrong about a recruit. Mullen can oversign to his liking. Both can and do take borderline eligible kids. Michigan doesn't/can't. We've taken about 3 juco kids in my life and I'm 30. Transfers even! What, 10ish in that same time frame due to academics. We don't/can't oversign beyond the special rule of 28 (iirc) IF your numbers are that low. If we accepted borderline academic kids, Burbridge would be here and not msu.....along with a one time commit CB from Chicago that happened to be best friends with Treadwell. I think it's likely that if we keep AS in the class the relationship with him and Morris gets the best CFB WR in the country here. Yet, we don't do that. We deny kids that qualify. OU/Miss St would NEVER do that. I could go on. We need a guy like Jim, like it or not. We need a guy that can bat at least .750 on the VERY RARE players that are truly into academics and can play for anyone. Mullen isn't getting in a kid that graduated from an alternative school at Michigan, etc.

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ThadMattasagoblin

November 9th, 2014 at 7:21 PM ^

Well Florida, Alabama, USC have all had some problems as big as what we have now and they got Carroll, Saban, Meyer to coach them so we should be able to get a big name. People are blind to the actual program appeal because the team is so bad. Coaching Mississippi State and Arizona State are good jobs but nowhere near Michigans.

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MGJS SuperKick Party

November 9th, 2014 at 7:22 PM ^

Since I really think we are setting ourself up for disappointment when Harbaugh doesnt come here (I REALLY hope I am wrong...). Stoops would be my 1a. I think Oklahoma has seen enough 9-3, 10-2 seasons, and they think they want a new coach. I really think they would see that the Grass is not greener. Mullen would be my 1b.

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DeBored

November 9th, 2014 at 7:26 PM ^

Both this and the Wetzel article are theoretical ramblings that 75% of this board could write.  Sad that this passes for journalism these days.

 

 

 

 

And I would love Stoops to come here.  Solid number 2a with Patterson as 2b (Mullen 3).

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getsome

November 9th, 2014 at 7:57 PM ^

not many seem to mention him when top coaches are discussed but gary patterson really impresses me.  the dude just continues to work wonders at TCU, and laughed when people questioned his program competitng in big 12.  

hes comfortable in his system, knows who he wants to recruit and knows how he wants to coach them up.  patterson always seems to have competent QB play, his defenses are always the real deal (and among the fastest in country), and he gets guys to the NFL - all pretty impressive for under the radar program competing for recruiting scraps in texas.  

i do not see him going to um but nice to see people mention his name

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Leonhall

November 9th, 2014 at 7:30 PM ^

There is a lot of this chatter beginning to happen with stoops and michigan linked, course it's from the internet, so it could just be somebody looking for 'clicks.' However there was some grumbling of the OU AD being considered as our AD...maybe that is where these rumblings are coming from...


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BlueinOK

November 9th, 2014 at 7:30 PM ^

I wouldn't be surprised to see him leave OU. The fans around here seem to think he's soft and that his program is slipping away. He's had a lot of success, but look at other coaches. There's not a lot of guys who stick around at places as long as Stoops has at OU. 

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bj dickey

November 9th, 2014 at 10:23 PM ^

Kind of like Ann Arbor when Lloyd was coaching. The thing is now, we've become so sed to mediocrity that a winning coach with a great track record can come in and know he'll be the bomb. Plus, were michigan fergodsakes. Very attractive opening for somebody. I don't think well need to go beyond the first three or four options.

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November 9th, 2014 at 7:31 PM ^

I'd rather have Patterson not because of his recent success but because of his ability to turn both offenses and defenses into high caliber performers.  Patterson has proven to produce top 20 defenses annually and has recently figured out how to mold top notch offenses.  Plus, I really do like his ability to perform up to expectations as well, whereas Stoops constantly has trouble living up to high preseason poll standards.

That being said, the search should be executed as Harbaugh or bust

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BlueHills

November 9th, 2014 at 7:33 PM ^

I'd like Stoops to Michigan quite a lot. Of course, Harbaugh is my #1 like most here. I'd be excited about Mullen and most of the other candidates mentioned here often also.

Anyone who can come here, re-invigorate Michigan football, and return it to national prominence would be most welcome in my book.

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One Inch Woody…

November 9th, 2014 at 7:44 PM ^

The spread offense meme needs to die. Any adequate pro-style OC would know how to integrate read and package elements a la Seattle and San Fran while still utilizing the tendency-based advantages to which pro style lends itself.

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wbpbrian

November 9th, 2014 at 7:48 PM ^

than Bob. I think we should get Bob if he wanted to come, but I wouldn't mind getting Mark as long as he comes with a good defensive coordinator. 

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wbpbrian

November 9th, 2014 at 8:05 PM ^

Everybody loves him in Kentucky and my friend from kentucky loves him. I know he is  a risk. But  coaching is in his blood look at the Harbaughs. I actually watched football games before he came there and I can tell you that he recruits well and has turned lemons into lemonade. He will probably coach Kentucky to a bowl game this year which is pretty impressive. In life we have to take some chances. And I wouldn't say Mark is my first choice but more like my fourth or fifth.

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wbpbrian

November 9th, 2014 at 8:22 PM ^

He would be my first choice on the non-viable list if it makes any sense. I know he can at least he can recruit and I see that he has put up a real good offense at Kentucky. My problem is his ability to coach defense. I look at Kentucky's D and I just think there isn't enough talent on the team yet to dock him for that yet. I would like to say one of the biggest reasons why FSU won there national Championship last year was because of the ground work that Mark Stopps put there. But that can be debated.

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