MeanJoe07

January 27th, 2024 at 1:36 PM ^

I can see that. It's sort of both at the same time though. Don't conflate the context of sport/competition and fandom with career and personal stuff.  At a fandom level I appreciate him, but he's not on the team anymore so I no longer care and he's irrelevant going forward. I still care and appreciate his contributions when he WAS on the team. That's not diminished. That's where my interest begins and ends as a fan.  At a career level and personal level Minter isn't garbage at all. He seems like a great dude, who will do great things for some other fanbase and I could absolutely not care less about that as a Michigan fan. I hope he regrets leaving Michigan because I want Michigan to be the place everyone wants to be.  Is that realistic? No.  But Fan is literally short for Fanatical.  I'm being a fan. If he comes back someday then boom I'd care again. Hopefully that makes sense.  

Hensons Mobile…

January 27th, 2024 at 1:55 PM ^

I do think I understand and to a degree almost all of us are the same. I definitely am more invested in the people that I like when they leave than you are, though. I will root for the Chargers, for example. But my passion in rooting for them will pale in comparison to my investment in Michigan or my preferred NFL teams.

I think your view is valid. No reason to care about Minter or even Harbaugh in the NFL. Your message sounded kind of unnecessarily mean spirited, which I took as MeanJoe schtick. And I wasn't going to remark on it except I did then question if you really could say you were going to celebrate Minter if, say, he came back for a game and was put on the video scoreboard.

But I guess you're saying you would still clap for him to show appreciation for what he did during the time when he was here, while simultaneously not giving a shit about him. I think I get it, but most people just say thanks for the memories and don't add the GTFO.

jmblue

January 27th, 2024 at 2:06 PM ^

Nobody has a problem with a tech professional leaving Apple to take a better job at Google, or a nurse taking a better position at a competing hospital network

I wouldn't even compare going from Michigan to the NFL to those.  The Chargers are not competing against Michigan on the football field.  It's more like going into a different (but similar) line of work.

Brodie

January 27th, 2024 at 6:03 PM ^

Guys like you straight up don’t get football in 2024. All of these kids want to be in the NFL. Having coaches from the NFL and alumni in the NFL both on and off the field is probably one of the biggest things Michigan has going for it. I guarantee every year we are going to have NFL coaches in the locker room to talk to our players and no other college team can promise that

 

at the end of the day you can prefer college if you want, I do too. But more people watched a first round NFL playoff game on a third tier streaming app than watched us win the natty and that should tell you everything

LabattsBleu

January 27th, 2024 at 12:53 PM ^

Congrats to Coach Minter.

I think everyone expected Minter to leave for the NFL eventually.

Its sad, but he was instrumental in helping Michigan win the National Championship. He's a legend.

One of the things I love, is that this is another NFL brain that Sherrone can call to get recommendations on young coaching talent.

the Michigan to NFL coaching pipeline is wide open...young NFL position coaches can see this as a path to bigger NFL jobs. I think Sherrone will continue to have a relationship with John Harbaugh, and Jim has publicly said that he sees the Chargers and Michigan as one team, so I expect that relationship will be almost as strong as Jim's was with John.

MacaroniParty

January 27th, 2024 at 12:55 PM ^

Next guy has to run this same defense. Whoever MacDonald and Minter tell us. This defense won us the national championship. That cannot be understated. 

Michigan has 3 projected top 15 first round draft picks on defense alone. 

 

Dailysportseditor

January 27th, 2024 at 12:56 PM ^

Clink and Mike will be promoted to Co-Coordinators to run the Defense under Sherrone.  He trusts them based on his working with them the past 2 years;  he will have them find quality assistants to work under them.

Double-D

January 27th, 2024 at 1:22 PM ^

I really had no hope.  I figured Harbaugh locked that agreement up which solves a big part of his puzzle to make the move. Harbaugh knows the offense.

I would not be surprised if Harbaugh and Moore and even Minter have had conversations about a DC replacement that fits this defense. 

stevedore

January 27th, 2024 at 1:07 PM ^

Just like his boss, the siren call of the NFL is too strong to resist.

It's been clear to me, even at the time, that the coaches were looking at the line of succession after the season was over. My guess is that Jim knew that Jesse wanted to get back to the NFL eventually, just like him.

Best of luck Jesse!

M-Dog

January 27th, 2024 at 1:19 PM ^

IDEA:  Have one of our players that is sought after but is loyal to the program, wear a mic and get the poachers caught red-handed on the record doing NIL inducements.

Bonus points if it is Ohio State. 

DHughes5218

January 27th, 2024 at 1:47 PM ^

Kirby Smart, Sark, and Day aren’t calling these guys and offering money. They know how to do it. It’s probably a rep of the NIL collective calling the kids high school coach to let them know they would get $2 million if they were to transfer. Something like that, but it is happening and we need to get our staff in place asap.

I’m sure Moore has already had discussions with guys he’s targeting, so hopefully they can wrap it up quickly. We need people on our side convincing players to stay. 

BrownJuggernaut

January 27th, 2024 at 1:20 PM ^

This is going to be a tough loss for us. I think Minter had a special ability to call the right play to attack offenses in the right way at the right time. You know how there are ruthless Madden/NCAA style offensive coordinators who can just attack with the right plays. Minter is like a defensive version of those and I am worried that we'll miss that. I think that if we maintain scheme, we will still have an elite defense. We have the ballers on that side of the ball, the talent.

JonathanE

January 27th, 2024 at 1:26 PM ^

Not to rain on the Minter parade but before coming to Michigan, Minter was the DC for Vanderbilt and their defense sucked. Maybe Minter was told what to run down at Vandy, I don't know but suddenly he comes to Michigan, and everything clicks. 

I'm sort of hoping that if you plug a decent DC into the system that they will succeed. 

S.G. Rice

January 27th, 2024 at 1:33 PM ^

Or maybe Minter was at Vandy for one season, it takes a while to fully install the Ravens system, and Vandy's talent flat out sucked?

It matters who Michigan hires, but it's hard to find a guy who can cover all the bases - be a great teacher, know the game inside and out, develop great game plans, recruit, evaluate talent, etc etc.  We've been lucky to have back to back guys who came pretty close to being excellent across the board.

There will undoubtedly be a drop off in some areas -- I'm not sure how anyone is going to match Minter's game calling and adjustments -- but maybe you make up for it in other areas like recruiting.

Amazinblu

January 27th, 2024 at 1:48 PM ^

“Match …. game calling and adjustments”.  This is where Macdonald and Minter’s differentiating abilities are.   

Few things were are enjoyable to hear - as when MHJ said after The Game - “They played coverages and schemes that we hadn’t seen before or thought they’d show.”   THAT is exactly what a unit needs to do.  IMO, it was a difference against the Bucks, Bama, and Washington.

Hoping this trend continues… and, if that means promoting from within or calling John and getting a two / three year up & comer - it works for me.

BeatIt

January 27th, 2024 at 3:35 PM ^

Amazing, I read the opposite from MHJ which is even worse. That they didn’t see anything different than what they had prepared for and still couldn’t make the plays when they needed to. Imo that’s worse than being surprised. As a fan Michigan looked like they did all year. They played their game with the same scheme and the other teams had no answer for their physicality. Even down 2 OL for parts of the game.

Amazinblu

January 27th, 2024 at 1:51 PM ^

I don’t know about that.  There are cap issues the Chargers need to deal with - and, of course - do they have the personnel to compete effectively.  

The skill “difference” between teams in the NFL is far less than it is in college.  

Will the Chargers D have “enough” skill on D to effectively execute the game plans Minter comes up with.  Time will tell.

waittilnextyear

January 27th, 2024 at 1:40 PM ^

Love that for him.  I'm also liking how "coaching at Michigan" is putting a certain shine on all these guys, kind of a golden era.  It will be cool to see what Harbaugh's "coaching tree" ends up looking like a couple decades from now.

Great on Minter.  He was some nondescript guy at Vanderbilt not all that long ago.  Now he's some Dude that has interest in his services all over NCAA/NFL.  Very well deserved after what he did here the past couple years.

Amazinblu

January 27th, 2024 at 1:58 PM ^

Just wondering - what other college coaches / coordinators are NFL teams interested in?

If it’s not part of Michigan’s recruiting pitch to prospects - it should be.  Michigan runs a scheme on Saturdays that’s similar to what they do in The League.  

So, a prospect can make a few more dollars via NIL & inducements now - or, look for a much more desirable contract / paycheck in three or four years.

meeashagin

January 27th, 2024 at 2:04 PM ^

Jim Harbaugh is all about Jim Harbaugh. 

Sure Jim we'll clean up your mess with the NCAA, sure Jim go ahead take our best DC in program history, sure Jim go ahead and take the best S&CC in college football. 

Jim is there anything else we can do for you?

 

snarling wolverine

January 27th, 2024 at 2:18 PM ^

Yeah, we "cleaned up his mess" by suspending him for three games over a burger receipt,  bent over and took it when the Big Ten suspended him three more games over mere accusations (not even against him personally), then refused to give him protection in his contract over being fired over these two bullshit investigations - until it was too late and we needed to cover our asses. 

Talk about a supportive, nurturing work environment.  What employee wouldn't be thrilled to work under those conditions?  

MRunner73

January 27th, 2024 at 3:02 PM ^

Did any other assistant coach inform the players that they are also leaving? So far, it's only Jesse Minter. Maybe one or two more of them would have said something about leaving.

 

alum96

January 27th, 2024 at 6:42 PM ^

I would take a NFL job over NCAA every day of the week in current environment where you have to re-recruit your players every day, and people from multiple schools are tampering with your players yearly and it's about the $$ almost everywhere.  Dealing with guard rails is so much easier. 

Send us someone new John!!