January 22nd, 2024 at 2:05 PM ^
JJ McCarthy, #9 on his uniform, #1 in our hearts, #16 to the Seahawks.
Not a bad life iyam.
January 22nd, 2024 at 2:22 PM ^
Maybe he wins 4 super bowls and completes the perfect squares quadfecta
January 22nd, 2024 at 2:36 PM ^
He’s only 21 — maybe he can shoot for a 25-year career.
January 23rd, 2024 at 10:45 AM ^
Might be hard to get all of them up to Team 144 though
January 22nd, 2024 at 2:06 PM ^
I'd love to see JJ go in the top half of the first round. However, Mel Kiper is an idiot and not to be trusted.
January 22nd, 2024 at 4:06 PM ^
Correct answer. The guy's track record is pitiful.
January 22nd, 2024 at 4:39 PM ^
I honestly don't understand how Kiper ever got to the position where people trust what he says about... anything.
January 22nd, 2024 at 8:30 PM ^
It's so weird how this guy is never right and yet, year after year, his predictions are treated as if they have any more merit than anyone else who watches a bunch of sports. He gets the obvious stuff right and everything else is just a random guess. It's like if someone became famous for their annual NCAA BB bracket even though they never demonstrated a higher success rate than random people off the street.
January 22nd, 2024 at 10:49 PM ^
The only reason he's right is because I live WA and would like to see this happen.
January 22nd, 2024 at 2:10 PM ^
Mel Kiper probably still uses dial up internet at home.
January 22nd, 2024 at 2:21 PM ^
I've spent my life wondering how the hell this guy continues to get paid to do this. I'm not saying being a tv personality is easy. I just don't understand why anyone gives a flying fuck about his football opinion
January 22nd, 2024 at 2:44 PM ^
Draftology is basically the NFL equivalent of college football recruiting. It's a way to generate clicks while selling hope to fans of poor teams, selling "filling in that one position to take us to the next level" for fans of middling teams, "how do we stay on top by drafting right" to fans of good teams, etc. In other words, another way to "win the offseason" to quote that dumbass Buckeye tweet the other day.
Mock drafts are very similar to recruiting rankings - a bunch of opinions that get averaged together and treated like they are measurable data, while not taking the opinions of the actual people to whom they would matter most - in the NFL, all of the front office personnel and in CFB coaches/position coaches. That's why I always find it funny on draft day, inevitably someone will go much higher or lower than expected, and someone will chime in with "He was a consensus late first rounder and he went at #10, wow!"...but, according to whom? Mel Kiper and Todd McShay? Don't you think if those guys were scouts worth anything they would be working for an NFL team?
January 22nd, 2024 at 3:02 PM ^
Does anyone actually know how much NFL scouts make compared to how much Mel Kiper makes?
January 22nd, 2024 at 5:30 PM ^
Bill Polian agrees with you!
January 22nd, 2024 at 5:53 PM ^
yeah, well, bill polian thought lamar jackson should flip to wide receiver, so i’m not picking sides in that one.
the nfl draft industrial complex sucks ass, is what i’m saying.
January 22nd, 2024 at 2:30 PM ^
You would be shocked at the number of my clients who still use their AOL email account.
January 22nd, 2024 at 2:43 PM ^
What about CompuServe?
January 22nd, 2024 at 3:59 PM ^
Prodigy
January 22nd, 2024 at 2:45 PM ^
I wouldn't. I run a small non-profit organization and I see a lot of AOL and Hotmail accounts still among our members.
January 22nd, 2024 at 4:49 PM ^
I still use hotmail. My Gmail is so full of spam.... I keep my hotmail for close friends and trusted agents. I dont care if it makes me uncool.
January 22nd, 2024 at 8:07 PM ^
I hope you don't put your Hotmail on your resume.
January 23rd, 2024 at 7:59 AM ^
Mine works just fine.
January 22nd, 2024 at 6:52 PM ^
Mel Kiper still plays Pokemon Go.
January 22nd, 2024 at 2:13 PM ^
Could do better with a Magic 8 ball.
January 22nd, 2024 at 2:16 PM ^
As a Hawks fan I endorse this. Also as a Hawks fan it is my job to point out that John Schneider loves trading his first round picks for a haul of late picks. Maybe that was a Pete Carroll thing though, so this draft will certainly tell us some interesting things about the new direction of the organization.
January 22nd, 2024 at 3:26 PM ^
Bo Duke doesn't seem to have the same boldness anymore.
January 22nd, 2024 at 2:19 PM ^
If JJ goes anywhere in the first round, and I believe he will once he gets his pro day and testing results and teams interview him, he will obviously have made a great decision to leave.
January 22nd, 2024 at 2:20 PM ^
Thank goodness Kiper is almost always wrong. He needs to go to a team that I don't dislike.
January 22nd, 2024 at 7:20 PM ^
2 weeks ago, right after the Title game. Mel insinuates JJ's a game manager & should no way go in the 1st round, says best case 2nd round. Makes more of a case for the 4th round (Prescott & Cousins).
https://www.youtube.com/live/lwCR9akMpLw?si=MztYnoXT4zYb3cap&t=720
And I tend to agree - based on JJ's actual performance/numbers that he should go outside the 1st round. I'd prefer he sit behind a solid pro starting QB & learn his 1st season. Similar to some great young QB's like Mahomes, Rodgers, Love, etc.
January 22nd, 2024 at 9:08 PM ^
I think J.J. needs to sit a year because he's not fully developed physically. This is the main reason I thought he needed to come back for another year. He's a young QB and he didn't show up in college with much muscle on him.
For his NFL career I hope he gets to sit for a year for this very reason. He clearly has the type of frame that can bulk up so he's not prone to injury and I think he's almost there. . .but not quite.
FWIW I also suspect that Sherrone's choice to run 30+ times in a row vs. Penn State had as much to do with J.J. getting injured in that game as it did with strategy. He got hit hard a couple times before we went 100% run and Sam discussed how badly he was injured vs. Maryland and how he didn't practice for Maryland.
January 23rd, 2024 at 8:02 AM ^
You can learn to compartmentalize this. I never had any use for the Patriots, but was always happy to see Tom Brady holding the Vince Lombardi Trophy high in the air at the end of the NFL season.
January 22nd, 2024 at 2:20 PM ^
So we know the one spot in the draft he won’t be going.
January 22nd, 2024 at 2:20 PM ^
I predict that for the 30th something year in a row the majority of ESPNs draft coverage will feature the stupid look on Kipers face when his picks are farther off than if you had a blind dude in the studio throwing darts at a board.
January 22nd, 2024 at 2:25 PM ^
Seahawks may trade Geno Smith if that is the case. Drew Lock is the current backup and played very well while Geno was injured this past season. If drafted by Seattle, it would be nice to see the Hawks give JJ some time, with JJ learning the system from Lock. I'd like to seem him in Seattle.
January 22nd, 2024 at 2:26 PM ^
Kel Miper
January 22nd, 2024 at 2:26 PM ^
Ignore this, /r/cfb has already told us JJ will be lucky to be drafted at all and is destined for a career as a 3rd string clipboard carrier.
January 22nd, 2024 at 2:55 PM ^
When 4 or 5 UM players are picked in the first two days including 2 in the first round, their heads are going to blow.
January 22nd, 2024 at 3:31 PM ^
And let's not disparage UM clipboard carriers. Todd Collins and Chad Henne carved out nice careers as such.
January 22nd, 2024 at 4:37 PM ^
Backup QB may be the second best job in pro sports. Rarely break a sweat during games, hardly ever hit, get paid a few mil per year, and if you get thrust into action no one actually expects you to win too many games. Retire with loads of money and fully intact brain.
January 22nd, 2024 at 4:44 PM ^
What's the best job?
January 22nd, 2024 at 8:25 PM ^
Third string QB?
January 22nd, 2024 at 5:47 PM ^
You know who else was a backup until an injury. Just saying.
January 22nd, 2024 at 2:27 PM ^
I refuse to give Kiper any validation, so…did he back up this prediction in any way?
Top half of the first round seems pretty optimistic considering the other players in the draft.
January 22nd, 2024 at 2:30 PM ^
I feel like he’s been a bit down on JJ and so it’s new him projecting him this high. It might be now that he’s declared he’s been having more conversations with NFL GM and scout types and has gotten the message that JJ is going to go somewhere in that range.
January 22nd, 2024 at 2:34 PM ^
Had the same thought after hearing what he and the other guy said in the video. Kiper’s NFL contacts told him he, again, will be proven wrong by not having JJ in his mock first round draft.
January 22nd, 2024 at 2:30 PM ^
I'll go ahead and triple down and say, JJ will be the best QB in this class when it is all said and done.
January 22nd, 2024 at 2:39 PM ^
I will not be taking this bet. I think he has as much upside along with a higher floor than either Penix, Williams, or Maye. I can see Penix and Williams flaming out. Penix because he can't handle pressure (as we all saw so clearly) and Williams because he can be a turnover machine when pressured against good coverage. The arm is strong, but he doesn't think so well on the move - he's used to flinging it downfield to WIDE OPEN athletes that can out-athlete everyone else on the field. That is the basis of Riley's offense, and it won't work in the NFL...
January 22nd, 2024 at 2:46 PM ^
I think a key part of the analysis / evaluation of Williams is… How did his backup do in their bowl game?