5* Nyck Harbor in home visit this Tuesday
Ok friends, last chance for Jim Harbaugh to make a lasting impression with Harbor this Tuesday. This is a huge visit and a player we need. Bellamy will also be with Jim. I’ve said this before, these are the type of players that we have to close on to compete w the bamas and georgias of the world…
https://mobile.twitter.com/EJHollandOn3/status/1617276196231806976
January 22nd, 2023 at 10:20 PM ^
just tell him our track team is so good, we don't even care if we drop a baton during the race, we just win by a bigger margin when that happens.
January 22nd, 2023 at 11:52 PM ^
We score extra td's and let the refs give them back. So the other team can feel good about themselves. But just in big games so people know how good we really are.
January 22nd, 2023 at 8:54 PM ^
isn't the best option for him probably Oregon? great track program, pretty good football team, amazing facilities and probably gets a lot of NIL.
January 22nd, 2023 at 9:19 PM ^
Agree. Seems like attending the University of Nike at Oregon would be the most lucrative choice.
January 22nd, 2023 at 9:51 PM ^
Dante Moore disagrees.
January 22nd, 2023 at 9:45 PM ^
“I have zero info on him … but I’m going to tell you what’s going on in his head.”
January 22nd, 2023 at 10:18 PM ^
Well, he has said it out loud and to a reporter so...yeah. Also, the "I have no direct info" is because I do have direct info I've shared here in the past. Though, less with time because of posters like you.
Anyway, the only part that is speculative here is what he will likely do beyond what he had said publicly. What is that based on? Ya know, just the typical route and decision making taken by thousands of recruits before him. A typical pattern.
So, sure, I pulled it all out my ass. Him not wanting to go to Michigan if not for his mother is something I totally made up. Good post, dude.
January 22nd, 2023 at 7:07 PM ^
When the stranger things have happened line comes out, it’s not good.
January 23rd, 2023 at 11:59 AM ^
No one can know the future.
January 22nd, 2023 at 6:51 PM ^
Nyck is quick.
January 22nd, 2023 at 7:02 PM ^
C'mon, fire up the burger cannon and get this guy to sign!
January 22nd, 2023 at 7:03 PM ^
Oregon in the lead imo based on his track interest and the massive NIL bag they will drop. He basically said he only had interest in UM because of his mom.
January 23rd, 2023 at 8:21 AM ^
Oregon already did drop it. There’s a reason he randomly decided to visit Eugene like a few weeks before he was supposed to make his decision when they hadn’t been mentioned his whole recruitment
January 23rd, 2023 at 5:14 PM ^
Eh... Oregon is the premier NCAA track school, and has the most rabid track fan base - they actually get crowds at track meets.
January 22nd, 2023 at 7:20 PM ^
Would be a tremendous get. Hope he listens to Mom and Coaches Harbaugh and Bellamy. There is only one Big House and blows Autzen away, plus his family could make more Michigan games than Oregon games.
January 22nd, 2023 at 7:25 PM ^
I don't care about the Bamas and Georgias... Beat Ohio State!!!
January 22nd, 2023 at 10:14 PM ^
Been there, done that
January 23rd, 2023 at 7:54 AM ^
No - Win the National Championship! You do this by recruiting the best players, coaching them up, and executing on the field.
January 22nd, 2023 at 7:59 PM ^
Good luck to the coaches on this one.
Any chance the track coaches can join in on this trip as well?
January 22nd, 2023 at 8:08 PM ^
Regarding being a pro at track, you can make a good living at it in Europe. They like their track and field. With Oregon I get why he'd want to run there but how fast is in on a national level? Because to make the Oregon track team you have to be REALLY good.
If we lose out on him and he wanted to play DE I'd be disappointed. As a TE I'd shrug and move along. We have good depth there including the 2 guys coming this year and Hansen coming in '24. Plus we're still after local kid Brady Prieskorn(#3 TE, #57 overall) in '24.
January 23rd, 2023 at 8:02 AM ^
He ran the 14th fastest 100m in HS last year, and was #3 among the under 18 guys.
I haven't seen any stats from this year.
January 23rd, 2023 at 8:11 AM ^
He’s won the junior Olympics and posting some amazing numbers for his high school career. Kids is legit at track and can essentially go anywhere he wants. That said, Oregon is known more their long distances and obstacle events. Still great as a team, but southern states are known more for their sprinters. He can go anywhere he wants with those times.
January 23rd, 2023 at 8:24 AM ^
He posted really amazing numbers for a HS freshman.
He posted really, really good numbers for a HS Sophomore.
He posted really good numbers for a HS Junior.
... and he is young for his class.
He has really plateaued though - he has only taken about 0.1 off his 100m time in the last 3 years.
He's definitely a legit college track guy - his HS times are good enough for that. Whether he will progress to the point of good college sprinter or Olympics is definitely questionable.
January 22nd, 2023 at 8:54 PM ^
Dumb question- is there any actual evidence that he can catch the ball? We've seen these super fast track guys in the past, try to be football players and it usually doesn't work well.
January 22nd, 2023 at 10:48 PM ^
Bob Hayes - showing my age.
January 22nd, 2023 at 9:07 PM ^
When will they start televising this inhome visits or at least doing an ESPN game tracker.
- J. Harbaugh removes cleats
- N. Harbor offers a glass of almond milk
- J. Harbaugh winces
January 22nd, 2023 at 10:13 PM ^
- J. Harbaugh removes cleats
- N. Harbor offers a glass of almond milk
- J. Harbaugh laces up cleats and leaves
January 22nd, 2023 at 10:25 PM ^
Definitely not true. We know Harbaugh doesn't remove his cleats when meeting with recruits.
January 22nd, 2023 at 9:36 PM ^
Hit the weights and let Gym Harbaugh work his magic.
January 22nd, 2023 at 9:40 PM ^
Not trying to be negative here, but it seems to me that UM will have some 'splainin to do with any in-home visit these days. Lot of great stuff on offer at UM (top-notch athletics and academics, good NIL for current players, great coaching and development, recent and historical program success), but I can imagine prospective recruits, and their parents, asking difficult stuff like:
-why haven't you signed a contract extension yet, Jim?
-what's up with you/Warde/Santa?
-what's the deal with the co-OC getting canned recently?
-what's up with the tunnel? (/s to this one)
-what's your deal? (/s to this one also)
The key is showing recruits how they fit and what Michigan can do for them if they come here. I would like to see the barrage of odd/bad news come to an end, though, with recruiters having some reasonable answers to the above. The conditions are ripe for some good recruiting classes when UM isn't its own worst enemy with bad publicity.
January 22nd, 2023 at 9:51 PM ^
Easy
-why haven't you signed a contract extension yet, Jim? I’m under contract now and we’re just ironing out the details to keep me here for several more years. I’ve been pretty explicit on this point and have publicly stated I’m back. I’ll be here for a while
-what's up with you/Warde/Santa? You don’t always get along with everyone in the workplace, and sometimes even your boss. That doesn’t affect my commitments and obligations to you and the football program. My personal dealings with them are between us.
-what's the deal with the co-OC getting canned recently? Sometimes people make mistakes, and this is one of those times. We have a great staff and will make sure we hire a great coach to keep this train rollin.
January 23rd, 2023 at 12:32 AM ^
Where do I sign?
January 23rd, 2023 at 11:53 AM ^
Jim?...
January 22nd, 2023 at 10:15 PM ^
Meh. Recruits don't care about that shit.
Will I play right away?
Will I get paid?
How hot are the girls?
January 23rd, 2023 at 12:28 AM ^
Those are also important factors. But time and again, things come down to fit. It's difficult to sell that if there's a lot of smoke about the person you commit to not being there for your 3-5 years at that school. Also, nobody's parents want to send them to a place where people are getting shitcanned for whatever it was Weiss did. It has to be a factor with some, if not all, recruits.
January 23rd, 2023 at 7:56 AM ^
This is the way!
The only explaining he needs to do is 1. he will be around for awhile and 2. Their current coaching staff is full of award winners and finalists.
January 22nd, 2023 at 10:31 PM ^
True and here is where I can add direct info (as opposed to any with Nyck):
I've spoken to a lot of HS coaches in the area since the TCU loss and almost all of them are on some degree of upset with Harbaugh/Michigan. A few - one the coach of a major 2025 prospect - said they feel lied to. I don't follow paysites but I see things online and Sam talked about it all hurting Michigan on the trail and he's right. It's not good. Once again Jim has to explain his way out of The NFL stuff after last year where he made it seem like he won't even entertain the thought after openly trying to leave UM. He did (to various levels of success based on who you ask) and then he flirts with The NFL again.
Once the hamburger stuff came out I connected with a lot of them to see of that possibly made the situation more clear and none of them cared. None heard any explaination for why this man was again entertaining NFL offers/interest.
So you better believe other staffs are using it against him. Now Jim - already a bit awkward - has to explain himself to a kid and his family...after already telling them he wouldn't do exactly what he did again.
This isn't even going into the other stuff, the Weiss stuff and the NCAA stuff and AD/Warde/Santa stuff. Etc.
I'll repeat what that same coach said to me because I also believe it. Word for word here:
"I never seen a coach or program make the strides they (Michigan/Jim) have made the last two years only to see it blown to pieces and they're holding the detonator"
Basically, you got over OSU and got into the playoffs and each year you shot yourself in the dick. Most programs use that to springboard themselves into another level of success. Michigan tripped over their own feet and off the board, twice. It's incredible and not sustainable.
January 23rd, 2023 at 12:35 AM ^
Yeah, for people to say this stuff doesn't matter at all is an exercise in pro-Michigan echo chamber thinking. Development of relationships is very important in any type of recruiting venture. To some student-athletes, it's even more important than $$$, and a lot of these details speak to developing positive relationships or a lack thereof.
January 23rd, 2023 at 1:01 AM ^
It's easy for Jim to explain this one however.
"This is part of the business side of this sport. I want to be at Michigan... and I want to be at Michigan with one of the best NIL programs in the country, and great salaries to hire the best assistant coaches for our program. In this case, the best way to do that was to let people believe for a little bit that there is a risk I could leave if I don't get what I want. When you are in the NFL one day, which I think you will be, you'll understand exactly how this works.
The fact is, I love Michigan. I grew up here, I played here, I love coaching here, and I want to be here. Other coaches create leverage during these negotiations by using the prospect of getting hired away to another school, but in our circumstance, nobody is going to believe that. Because of the connection I'm fortunate to have with this university, and the career I'm fortunate to have had in the NFL, this had to be the strategy to not just get a deal signed, but to get the right deal signed for our players, our coaches, and the program."
January 23rd, 2023 at 3:07 AM ^
That might have softened things after last year, but two years in a row after telling the world it was a one off....that has to create major doubts. And it makes its so much easier to negative recruit against his program.
January 23rd, 2023 at 8:27 AM ^
The thing that I think is sort of unfair to Jim, at least this off season, is that Jim is never going to take another college job. NFL jobs are the only other jobs he can use as leverage. When James Franklin flirts with other college jobs for leverage, everyone doesn’t seem to use it against him but Harbaugh flirting with the NFL for leverage is somehow different?
January 23rd, 2023 at 8:24 AM ^
Completely agreed, there are so many self inflicted questions about the staff right now that I wouldn’t really blame recruits for not wanting to come here and it doesn’t seem like we’re in any hurry to address those questions
January 22nd, 2023 at 11:18 PM ^
Kid ran a 6.64 60m and 20.46 200m down in Texas this weekend. He's FAST FAST
January 22nd, 2023 at 11:41 PM ^
The dude is 6-foot-6 and 225 pounds, he has the size of an edge rusher with the speed of an Olympic sprinter. He plays plays on both sides of the ball, with 47TFL's and 10 touchdowns over the past two seasons.
His 100-meter time,10.22 is the seventh-fastest under-18 time in the world this year.
Simply put the guy is aa freak of freaks. And some people don't want him?
South Carolina was trying to leverage Jim's dalliance with the NFL. This in home will obviously put that notion to rest.
He suggests he's looking at 3 factors academics, athletics and track and plans to go into medicine or engineering.
I like our chances as much as anyone.
January 23rd, 2023 at 8:30 AM ^
He suggests he's looking at 3 factors academics, athletics and track and plans to go into medicine or engineering.
If you follow recruiting at all, 9 time of out of 10, quotes like this are bullshit
January 22nd, 2023 at 11:43 PM ^
I’m not an expert on recruiting or evaluation so my opinion is worthless, but I will say that you can have every physical trait needed to be good at football, but that doesn’t necessarily make you good at football. Can he become great, sure, but I don’t think he’s a must get.
Our roster right now is national championship caliber. OSU was better than Georgia and would have won if that wr wasn’t knocked out of the game. We thumped OSU on their field. We should be national champs right now and we don’t need Harbor to compete with Georgia, but it would be nice.
January 22nd, 2023 at 11:54 PM ^
Any port, or harbor, in a storm, go Blue!!
January 23rd, 2023 at 1:07 AM ^
This is not a player we need...tho a player i want.
January 23rd, 2023 at 3:12 AM ^
I can’t stand the fact that our only competition are two schools he’s mostly only considering because of this silly idea he’s going to run track there. It’s never gonna happen.
He’s 6‘5“ and weighs 225 pounds now. Any position he plays in college football is going to require him to put on at least 15 pounds more muscle. (He’ll definitely outgrow being a WR.)
He’s not gonna give up football for track. Football is way more lucrative. And there’s no way he’s going to continue being a sprinter in college (much less the Olympics) at that size or bigger.
It’s a pipe dream that Oregon and South Carolina are selling him to get him on the football team. By the time he realizes track is not gonna happen, he’s already going to be too entrenched in the football program to transfer out and come back to play for Michigan.
Sorry for being a doubter, but the 2-sport stuff almost never works out, especially for football players.
And don’t cite me a couple of examples where it worked. The exceptions prove the rule.
January 23rd, 2023 at 8:05 AM ^
I think this is why his camp is quite firm that he will be a wideout. We are the ones assuming tight end. He doesn't have to gain a pound as a wide out. Even if he were solely devoted to football (and remember he was recruited to his high school and grew up a track star), I don't. think the conditioning staff would be trying to put weight on a guy who already carries more muscle on his frame than the average NFL wideout.