TCU SMU game postponed due to COVID-19
Didn't see this on the board. They aren't releasing info about the extent of the outbreak, but Big 12 just put in place various cancellation thresholds. They say they'll try to reschedule, but that is looking unlikely. Buckle in.
https://www.star-telegram.com/sports/college/big-12/texas-christian-university/article245494150.html
September 5th, 2020 at 7:27 AM ^
Gary Patterson passed it to his whole team from his belt...
September 5th, 2020 at 8:30 AM ^
Is there a joke I’m missing here?
September 5th, 2020 at 7:32 AM ^
This is all Kevin warrens fault
September 5th, 2020 at 9:02 AM ^
Exactly!!! He’s actually in charge of all conferences.
September 5th, 2020 at 9:59 AM ^
... and he's taking orders from Mark Schlissel, that namby-pamby, limp-wristed, man-bun-wearing, ivory-tower LIBRULL!!!
OT: I can remember when TCU stood for Texas Cash Unlimited.
September 5th, 2020 at 8:15 AM ^
Ugh, politics.
September 5th, 2020 at 8:47 AM ^
Did I miss something? Is “no politics” still a thing here? But I’ve been seeing some overt politics lately ... (not necessarily referencing this post, just the blog in general)
September 5th, 2020 at 8:58 AM ^
I think that pre-dated a time when politics directly impacted college sports
September 5th, 2020 at 9:11 AM ^
I'll moidalize 'em!
September 5th, 2020 at 10:15 AM ^
And Religion! (Christians versus the Methodists.)
September 5th, 2020 at 8:17 AM ^
The degree of shameless money-grab moves of late in CFB has dampened my enthusiasm for the game. Not that anyone should care what one person's opinion is, but it's just one more way the world seems to be getting a little darker.
September 5th, 2020 at 10:33 AM ^
I don't discount your opinion and am sorry you feel that way. I'm also in that boat but for different reasons. I am actually there for the opposite reason, I don't think closing of schools and football can be justified on the science and facts that I read every day. But that's a different post and I'm not arguing with you on this particular point. It's sad when anyone has less enthusiasm for college football.
September 5th, 2020 at 12:26 PM ^
Can you share with us the science and facts that make you think it is safe , please ?
September 5th, 2020 at 12:33 PM ^
It’s called pseudo-science and alternative facts. But yeah, totally...
September 5th, 2020 at 2:15 PM ^
The players have the same risk of serious outcomes from Covid as they do for flu. That is a statistical, objective, documented fact. Arguably less risk than flu given their superior conditioning. Therefore anyone arguing for player safety simply does not know what they are talking about. That is not an opinion.
The other concern is spread to coaches or for regular students, spread to teachers. Teachers can quite easily be distanced from students in any number of ways. Coaches can mostly be distanced, but there are occasions when that's not possible. The coaches understand the risk and apparently universally accept it. Coaches can also quite easily distance from others who might be at higher risk (the obese and people over 70, primarily).
Lastly, we have the experience from the world. English and German soccer leagues--no increased spread. Schools across Europe--no increased spread. Swedish schools, open the entirety of Covid with no masks and no testing--no spread of any consequence, and Teachers tested positive at similar risk of any other profession.
And the last gasp of the close athletics down group, heart problems--debunked yesterday on this board, also debunked here in medscape: https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/936098
But do go on smugly because clearly you have the facts on your side
September 5th, 2020 at 4:19 PM ^
Therefore anyone arguing for player safety simply does not know what they are talking about. That is not an opinion.
Lol. Uh, yeah it is.
September 5th, 2020 at 9:01 PM ^
Sorry it is. Check the links I provided. The facts and stats are there--Covid risk is the same as flu for people under 24. That is a fact. Therefore, you are either ignorant of the fact, or unwilling to accept the fact. Cheers.
September 5th, 2020 at 8:27 AM ^
Uh.... Buckle up?
September 5th, 2020 at 9:10 AM ^
So the FLU caused this, WOW!
September 5th, 2020 at 9:42 AM ^
Bubble sports works so let's put "personal bubbles" around all college football players to create the bubbles they so badly need....patent pending.
September 5th, 2020 at 10:53 AM ^
you are too late
September 5th, 2020 at 3:16 PM ^
Unexpectedly, most amazing thing in this GIF:
Yellow shirt/purple shorts guy in background goes from legs crossed sitting on the ground to vert-jump OMG stance. Might actually be some magic going on here.
not /s
September 5th, 2020 at 7:09 PM ^
To me looks like he is squating down.
September 5th, 2020 at 9:51 AM ^
Can’t be - I’ve heard from some really smart people that covid is just a conspiracy against poor, honorable donnie trump.
September 5th, 2020 at 10:28 AM ^
Cancelling a football game because college athletes test positive for a virus that has almost zero risk to them, based upon PCR tests that the NYT discussed a week ago that are filled with false positives, when they are universally asymptomatic, and when it is quite easy to distance them from people that are actually at somewhat higher risk, is a conspiracy--a conspiracy of ignorance of the facts and science of the virus, replaced by misguided emotion and fear. There is quite literally zero science based reason whatsoever for this, just as there is zero science behind closing schools.
September 5th, 2020 at 10:41 AM ^
K but that’s not true though...
September 5th, 2020 at 10:47 AM ^
I'm wide open to your refutation of my points
September 5th, 2020 at 10:58 AM ^
I don’t want to get into the same arguments that have been recycled dozens of times on the board lately... but where do you get “universally asymptomatic” from? Not the original article. You speak as if you know exactly what Is going on when I feel pretty darn sure that you are not linked, in any meaningful way, to the inner workings of either football program.
September 5th, 2020 at 11:05 AM ^
You're right, "universal" would imply that 100% of all athletes are asymptomatic, and I can't verify that. "Overwhelming majority", and "almost all", would be more accurate words
September 5th, 2020 at 11:26 AM ^
For the week ending April 18, there were 8.7 hospitalizations per 100,000 of the population for the 18-to-29 age bracket, compared with 128.3 per 100,000 of the population for patients over 65. By the week ending June 27, the figures were 34.7 and 306.7 respectively, representing a 299 percent increase in hospitalizations for young adults, versus a 139 percent increase in hospitalizations for older adults.
https://www.ucsf.edu/news/2020/07/418081/1-3-young-adults-may-face-severe-covid-19-ucsf-study-shows
Can one be asymptotic and hospitalized at the same time? I didn’t think so.
September 5th, 2020 at 11:21 AM ^
You didn’t make any points. It’s all opinion. Provide data that suggests there is no risk to these athletes, either now or concerning long term effects, and that opening schools poses little risk to the students or their families. Both are incorrect, but I’ll let you provide the links. The response to Covid is not fear and emotion, it’s science.
September 5th, 2020 at 2:20 PM ^
This is the CDC site on deaths by age: here you will see that the risk for Covid for 0-24 year olds is similar to the risk for flu, pneumonia, and other respiratory diseases. there have been 357 deaths of people under 24: 357 deaths out of 180,000. In statistical terms that's basically zero.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm
Here's the data confirming that the scare about long term impacts is wrong, if the statement yesterday from the PSU doctor walking back his claims didn't convince you
https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/936098
September 5th, 2020 at 3:18 PM ^
Your first point seems to equate death as the only reason to be concerned. There are multitude other outcomes from contraction of the virus. Some are likely perfectly fine for continuing to participate in college sports (*not* just football, right?) Others, ehhh not so much.
Your second point is in fact a link to an *opinion piece*. It is hardly the mic-drop you claim it to be.
September 5th, 2020 at 5:32 PM ^
An opinion piece from a cardiologist. I thought we were all supposed to listen to experts? I guess it's just the experts that agree with our pre-exiting worldview right?
I'm interested to hear just what these "other outcomes" are, and look forward to the study you link to that proves this is the case.
September 5th, 2020 at 5:58 PM ^
Cardiologist or not, it's still just the opinion of one doctor. The piece is labeled "Commentary" for a reason. Whether I agree with his opinion or not doesn't really matter. You, however are presenting it as if it's a definitive opinion. It most definitely is not. This is evidenced by the fact that we have some schools with doctors saying it's safe to play and others with doctors that have said the risk is too great.
Other outcomes being any of the following (though certainly not limited to):
That graphic came from this report in The Lancet by the way. It in turn has links to several other studies. Though obviously this is also not an exhaustive list.
September 5th, 2020 at 8:58 PM ^
All infectious diseases have, in some patients, longer term effects. There is not a thing different about Covid in this respect.
September 6th, 2020 at 1:54 PM ^
So... When presented with actual data/facts that disprove your point your defense is to change the point? Well played.
This indicates someone unwilling to entertain any sort of reasonable debate. The University of Michigan I graduated from taught critical thinking among other things. Perhaps you skipped those days.
I tried. I'm done.
September 5th, 2020 at 12:16 PM ^
I hope you're proud of yourself. You just woke MJG out of a 9 year nap.
September 5th, 2020 at 11:09 AM ^
The only other person I have heard claiming there is “literally zero science” is Tucker Carlson. So, congrats for joining his distinguished company. For the thousandth time, how old are the coaches? How old are the officials? How old are the bus drivers and training staff? How old are the equipment staff people?
September 5th, 2020 at 1:00 PM ^
Tell that to tcu and smu. As an smu alum and parent there is less than a zero chance they would be part of an antitrump conspiracy. But believe what you will.
September 5th, 2020 at 10:43 AM ^
Wasn’t this a Friday night lights episode plot?
September 5th, 2020 at 10:57 AM ^
Thanks, TCU!
At least I can watch SMU take on uninfected Texas State this afternoon on ESPN.
September 5th, 2020 at 11:34 AM ^
The Texas State Fighting Syphilitics?
September 5th, 2020 at 3:31 PM ^
If they have a back that plays ball like Ed Genero played ball, a Lucy Draper kicking 50 yarders, and Paul Blake tattooing people with bullets, I’m paying money for espn services immediately. Will pay double if Andre Krimm and Chuck Neiderman announce
September 5th, 2020 at 11:09 AM ^
Uh oh, they're not being totally transparent, time to gather my 15 man protest and head down to Big 12 country
September 5th, 2020 at 11:29 AM ^
When is Michigan playing Washington? I can’t find it in my tv guide
September 5th, 2020 at 12:06 PM ^
That was the only game on tap with even half a pulse . . .
#2020
September 5th, 2020 at 12:13 PM ^
The dong punches will continue until morale improves.
September 5th, 2020 at 12:16 PM ^
As if this football season weren't annoying enough. Now it seems we'll have to go through Ricky's "I toda so" every time a game gets canceled or played. This place becomes insufferable when a raft of Rickies are yelling at each other from opposite sides of the spectrum.