November 24th, 2019 at 2:20 PM ^
I love mathups
November 24th, 2019 at 2:45 PM ^
More than the Blue Man Band?!
November 24th, 2019 at 2:52 PM ^
2 + 2 vs. 1 + 3 has the makings of an instant classic.
November 24th, 2019 at 3:32 PM ^
Excellent! In matchups, we’d have some tough sledding to get to the top, but in mathups? We’re going to kick their ass!!
November 24th, 2019 at 3:35 PM ^
I liked scienceups and historyups more, personally.
November 24th, 2019 at 4:39 PM ^
sparty don't do to well in the mathups...11 /= 12
November 24th, 2019 at 4:57 PM ^
Is this to be interpreted as meaning a return of The Mathlete to MGoBlog?
Is it too much to hope that THE_KNOWLEDGE would soon follow?
November 24th, 2019 at 2:21 PM ^
For a week. Since we play #2 Ohio State, putting us at ten just makes a top ten matchup
November 24th, 2019 at 5:43 PM ^
'zackly! Just trying to make the mathup.
November 24th, 2019 at 2:26 PM ^
Mathups?
November 24th, 2019 at 2:29 PM ^
Yeah, I have no clue what he was going for there.
November 24th, 2019 at 2:38 PM ^
Matchups
November 24th, 2019 at 5:00 PM ^
T before h especially after c.
November 24th, 2019 at 5:01 PM ^
I was going for being on time to church. It's just a typo.
November 24th, 2019 at 3:17 PM ^
Absolutely Mathups! All this number stuff going on, points, scores, moving up and down by number-geek determinations...
OP gets points too for the neologism! (If it is indeed a neologism. Research geeks can confirm.)
November 24th, 2019 at 4:58 PM ^
There's going to be a quiz late Wednesday afternoon before you can go on Thanksgiving break.
November 24th, 2019 at 2:29 PM ^
These polls are so predictable: it's just like them to have Michigan at 9-2, ranked above two 9-2 teams that defeated them (Wisconsin and Penn State).
November 24th, 2019 at 2:35 PM ^
I think they reevaluate week to week. This isn’t the same Michigan team that played Wisconsin weeks ago. Also if I were voting I’d be ranking teams who play on a neutral field. At this moment Michigan would be favored to win those two games. Penn State needed a miracle from the refs and Ronnie Bell to drop a pass. To hold on to win at home. PSU isn’t that good. They’re the most overrated team in the polls.
November 24th, 2019 at 2:49 PM ^
PSU isn’t a playoff contender but they’re a good team. They are the only team OSU has played that gave them a legitimate scare. And they did it on the road.
They've played OSU far better over the last four years than Michigan has.
November 24th, 2019 at 3:12 PM ^
Eh, OSU dominated that game yesterday, nearly doubling PSU's total yardage. That was only a "scare" temporarily because of three really high leverage fumbles by OSU, which were fluky events.
PSU is a good team but they're not great and they're overrated by the committee. They were extremely lucky to beat Michigan at home. It was pretty clear Michigan was the better team and the only question that game was whether Michigan would have enough time to come back from some early mistakes and terrible reffing. The entire second half featured PSU holding on for their lives. And Michigan has looked even better since that game, clearly turning a corner.
PSU was outgained by Pitt. Outgained by Iowa. They've been pretty lucky.
PSU's performance against OSU the previous few years means nothing for this years teams.
November 24th, 2019 at 4:26 PM ^
Well, they don't do the polls on the last four years and UM and OSU havent played yet in this one, so you can't use that to compare.
November 24th, 2019 at 6:09 PM ^
Did you watch the Wisconsin game? It was literally one of the worst beat downs in Michigan history. It was up there with Florida State in 1991, Tennessee in 2002, Penn State in 2017 or Ohio State in 2018 (I'm not including RR or Hoke years).
I realize that Michigan has improved since then but I'd need to know what they're going to do differently on D before thinking they could beat Wisconsin.
Penn State on the other hand....I think that Michigan is clearly better (and probably was when they played).
November 24th, 2019 at 8:22 PM ^
Only the Tennessee game compares to the Wisconsin beatdown. Michigan was competitive in the others for the first half or even into the second half. They did not have the utter futility of the Wisconsin game.
November 24th, 2019 at 2:50 PM ^
This is wrong logic.
By that logic: wisco lost to IL who lost to M - M is better
PsU lost to Minn who lost to Iowa who lost to M - M is better
whats the point? Outside of undefeated teams that are clearly solid, week to week can be judged by observers
November 24th, 2019 at 3:18 PM ^
Exactly. The idea that just because you win a head-to-head, you're a better team is dumb.
Is Illinois better than Wisconsin?
Everyone complaining last week that PSU was ranked ahead of Minnesota weren't complaining that Minnesota was ranked ahead of Iowa. Record matters in context of schedule. Minnesota has played a joke schedule so their 9-1 wasn't the same as PSU's 9-1. In fact is was closer to Iowa's 7-3 (last week PSU had a SoR of 6, Minnesota was 14th and Iowa was 18).
November 24th, 2019 at 3:08 PM ^
It depends on WHEN you lose. If you don't know that you are very new to this.
November 24th, 2019 at 2:35 PM ^
Lou Holtz loves mathups too!!
November 24th, 2019 at 2:56 PM ^
Mike Tyson as well, yeth he does.
November 24th, 2019 at 2:36 PM ^
Glad were are ahead of PSU at least for now. For what little its worth, I think Michigan is better right now than PSU, even though we lost a close one in Happy Valley with some incredibly inconsistent pi calls. Since PSU, we dismantled Notre Dame and Sparty. The win over Iowa looks better all the time.
November 24th, 2019 at 3:15 PM ^
I actually think Michigan and psu should be flipped. It’s supposed to be a resume ranking and our resumes are similar enough the head to head should matter. It will obviously get resolved next week either way.
Both teams should be ahead of Florida though
November 24th, 2019 at 2:37 PM ^
We are be striking distance of the CFP if we beat OSU convincingly. Need a few breaks though.
Auburn over Bama.
Wisconsin over Minnesota. Then OSU over Wisconsin.
LSU over GA in SEC championship
Utah loses again
Oklahoma loses again
November 24th, 2019 at 2:49 PM ^
My 97 Wrangler goes 90mph
Tigers win the World Series next year
November 24th, 2019 at 4:22 PM ^
Old 4-banger Wranglers would have not been at the top of doc Brown's list.
November 24th, 2019 at 6:00 PM ^
I bet it will do 90 naked
November 24th, 2019 at 2:51 PM ^
November 24th, 2019 at 3:06 PM ^
Thank you. If Michigan wins next week this gives me an excuse to watch at least 6 more games while telling my wife it's important.
November 24th, 2019 at 3:16 PM ^
We would need to be where Florida is, Michigan isn’t jumping high enough to pass a 2 loss Georgia or stay in front of a 1 loss Baylor
November 24th, 2019 at 3:32 PM ^
We beat Notre Dame a lot worse than Georgia
November 24th, 2019 at 3:46 PM ^
You're really committed to the notion that Michigan can't leap a two loss Georgia team. You've stated that repeatedly in some of your post.
I don't believe you're fully grasping how the opinions about Michigan will change if they easily defeat OSU.
November 24th, 2019 at 4:20 PM ^
It’s because Georgia is really a 1 loss team with an extra game than a 2 loss team. I think it would be more logical to think of Georgia as a 1.5 loss team if they lost to LSU. If beating osu would change it that much Michigan would be in front of a 1 loss Georgia next week, the committee has shown with Florida they don’t mind putting team with more losses higher
November 24th, 2019 at 7:43 PM ^
Georgia lost to a 4-7 South Carolina team....at home.
November 24th, 2019 at 3:50 PM ^
According to 538's college football predictor, if Michigan beats OSU, LSU wins out (meaning they beat UGA), Oregon wins out (meaning they beat Utah), Oklahoma loses next week, and Alabama loses next week, Michigan and UGA both have a 31% chance to make the playoffs. That's up from the 2% chance Michigan currently has.
The likelihood of UM winning, LSU beating UGA in the SEC title game, Oregon beating Utah in the Pac12 title game, and Oklahoma and Alabama losing next week is: ~.8%.
Though if Baylor beats Oklahoma in the Big 12 title game, their chances go up to 57% (from 14% before the game) and Michigan's fall to 29% (UGA's chances disproportionately fall to 14%). It didn't let me see what would happen if Oklahoma lost next week and then beat Baylor (though it says they have a 71% of beating Baylor and only a 21% chance of making the playoffs). If Baylor loses to the Fighting Les Miles, it says Michigan would have a 38% before the Big 12 title game happens.
The system is also very finicky. If I have VaTech win out, meaning they beat Clemson in the ACC title game, which should make it more likely that Michigan would make it since it would eliminate Clemson (<1% chance for them) and open up another spot, Michigan's chances fall to <1% and both Oklahoma and Oregon would have a >99% of making it.
November 24th, 2019 at 3:28 PM ^
It would help Michigan if those things were to happen, but it seems you've forgotten about Baylor.
The most realistic scenario would be Oklahoma losing to Oklahoma State and then the Sooners defeating Baylor in the Big 12 CCG.
It might be close, but an one loss Big 12 Champion Baylor team would most likely be placed ahead of Michigan.
The Wisconsin vs Minnesota game might not matter as long as the winner loses to OSU because Michigan could still leap a two loss Minnesota team in the playoff rankings.
November 24th, 2019 at 2:41 PM ^
If Georgia beats LSU convincingly and Alabama rolls Auburn its going to get really interesting for the playoff. There might even be a team that has a solid argument for a third SEC team in the playoff. And I hate the SEC but in that scenario with a rough loss most recently going to LSU what do you do?
November 24th, 2019 at 2:47 PM ^
Nice to see some tradition ...
10 of the top 15 teams in total wins All Time (D1) are inside this weeks AP top 15 .(Michigan,Ohio St,Alabama,Oklahoma,N Dame,Penn St,Georgia,LSU,Auburn and Clemson
The other 5 schools that are inside the top 15 All Time wins,that are NOT in this poll are Texas,Nebraska.,USC,Tennessee and West Virginia
November 24th, 2019 at 2:50 PM ^
November 24th, 2019 at 2:55 PM ^
From what I've seen, the "new and improved" Michigan would beat Minnesota.
November 24th, 2019 at 2:57 PM ^
November 24th, 2019 at 3:10 PM ^
I'm pretty sure we'd beat Minny by 20 and happily parade the Jug around the field after the final whistle.
November 24th, 2019 at 3:22 PM ^
If UM wins next week it’ll be interesting to see where they end up. Right now they’re the second highest 2 loss team. If they win they’ll have the best win of any team 5-10 and the hardest schedule. They’d definitely jump Minn FL and Utah. But would they jump OU and be just outside the top 4?