November 9th, 2013 at 7:29 PM ^
I don't know but I can't take Borges anymore. I just can't.
November 9th, 2013 at 7:29 PM ^
See that's the thing with myself. I want him gone, but don't know who to get. I'd honestly like to run a hybrid offense like Nebraska, although we'll only have DG for one more year.
I have no clue who we would get, but it has to be better than this. I have no words anymore, man.
November 9th, 2013 at 9:06 PM ^
The argument from some Borges supporters (and I'm not saying you are saying this) is "well, who would you hire?"
It really is an incredibly stupid argument to suggest that there is no one that Michigan could possibly hire that would be better. Somewhere is the next Chip Kelly at New Hampshire, or Rich Rod at Tulane, or Malzahn or Briles at a freaking high school.
And i'm not even remotely suggesting that you have to hit on the next great innovator like those guys. But there are tens, if not hundreds, of coaches capable of running a not-extreme-spread offense that are great candidates. Oregon State? San Jose State? Bowling Green? NFL position coaches?
I don't even know, but just because the average fan can't name the person doesn't mean that there aren't highly thought-of offensive minds that are eager to get a chance to prove themselves at a high profile position like Michigan.
November 9th, 2013 at 11:20 PM ^
Why the fuck did you just go off on me? I just said not sure who we would get, as I was answering the question in the OP but want Borges gone along with saying whoever we would get would be better than this. Chill the fuck out.
November 10th, 2013 at 12:03 AM ^
Relax.
November 9th, 2013 at 7:29 PM ^
November 9th, 2013 at 7:29 PM ^
November 9th, 2013 at 7:36 PM ^
Parrish is currently pre-occupied in Ypsilanti.
November 10th, 2013 at 1:01 AM ^
You are right, they will bring back Debord. Wasn't he already in the Athletic Department or with the team in some capacity?
They have to know the only thing more unpopular than Borges might be bringing back one of the retreads!
November 9th, 2013 at 7:30 PM ^
because Borges wont be let go and Kiffin doesnt want to go back down to an OC.
November 9th, 2013 at 7:30 PM ^
Jim Tressel
/s
November 9th, 2013 at 7:34 PM ^
November 9th, 2013 at 7:30 PM ^
so will Borges...........BOTH need to go.....wht limit it to just Borges?
November 9th, 2013 at 7:30 PM ^
November 9th, 2013 at 7:31 PM ^
OL Coaching and Runing Game coordinator turned offensive coordinator. Back up the brinks truck.
http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8894452/mike-bloomgren-n…
November 9th, 2013 at 7:35 PM ^
His job title is actually "Andrew Luck Director of Offense". I'm not making this up. Yeah, I could live with him for sure with how their offensive line has been playing.
November 11th, 2013 at 10:12 PM ^
Thanks to a wealthy donor. Like the Don Shepherd AD at Michigan...
November 9th, 2013 at 9:38 PM ^
While I was watching Stanford beat up Oregon, I thought this exact same thing. He offense is tough and gritty with an element of the spread.
November 9th, 2013 at 7:32 PM ^
Al Borges!!
November 9th, 2013 at 7:32 PM ^
Charlie Taaffe UCF
Able to develop QBs, with 2 available at all times, so no unprepared Bellomy 2012
I hope they get Adrian Klemm from UCLA for OLine too
November 9th, 2013 at 7:32 PM ^
November 9th, 2013 at 7:35 PM ^
FWIW..Hoke just said in his presser that he liked the playcalling..wtf??????
November 9th, 2013 at 7:36 PM ^
November 10th, 2013 at 12:01 AM ^
I have no clue what Al was thinking. He better step up the rest of the season because his job's on the line. That would not really look good to recruits or other possible OC candidates.
November 9th, 2013 at 7:37 PM ^
November 9th, 2013 at 7:33 PM ^
Scot Loeffler, Cam Cameron, Tom Herman, basically anyone.
November 9th, 2013 at 7:33 PM ^
Scot Loeffler, Cam Cameron, Tom Herman, basically anyone.
November 9th, 2013 at 7:33 PM ^
November 9th, 2013 at 7:35 PM ^
November 9th, 2013 at 8:07 PM ^
That's just not true. Hoke is very well respected so as long as they had similar a philosophy (pro-style is not the same as caveman - did you watch the Stanford game?), lots of guys would love to come here. And he's not on the hot seat.
November 9th, 2013 at 8:17 PM ^
Watching Stanford beat up Oregon or Alabama against anyone and it is obvious that the pro style is still more than effective. Stanford has good recruits, but no better than the guys Michigan has been getting, no reason this style of offense won't work. In fact, most would argue its really the best way to a national championship.
I have been a somewhat defender of Borges, but the offense has gotten worse as the season goes on, that is unexcuseable.
I do have to also wonder how much of this is strength and conditioning too. You watch those guys get absolutely blown off the line and that is some technique but some strength and conditioning as well. In some ways the team reminds me of the 2005 team, which is well known to have suffered from a very inferior strength and conditioning program.
November 10th, 2013 at 1:26 AM ^
If you can run your offense well, you can win. If you can't, it will struggle. Whether it's a spread or pro style, it just needs to work.
November 9th, 2013 at 8:50 PM ^
November 9th, 2013 at 7:34 PM ^
November 9th, 2013 at 7:36 PM ^
Isn't that Kugler's dad?
November 9th, 2013 at 7:37 PM ^
He's also our next year starting center's dad.
But why would he leave a head coaching gig (unless fired obvs) to be an OC?
November 9th, 2013 at 7:38 PM ^
If he gets fired, he would probably go back to the NFL.
November 9th, 2013 at 7:45 PM ^
November 10th, 2013 at 7:57 AM ^
"Coach class" -- I see what you did there.
November 9th, 2013 at 7:34 PM ^
November 9th, 2013 at 7:35 PM ^
As long as we have Hoke as head coach it is someone who runs a MANBALL offense.
November 9th, 2013 at 7:50 PM ^
November 9th, 2013 at 7:53 PM ^
Where is my post did I say that it didn't work.
November 9th, 2013 at 7:54 PM ^
Wisconsin runs a manball offense. They have won a game or two over the last ten years with mediocre recruiting.
November 9th, 2013 at 8:03 PM ^
Wisconsin now runs spread offense under Gary Anderson just with more downhill power running.
November 9th, 2013 at 8:08 PM ^
Then replace "runs" with "ran" and his point still stands.
November 9th, 2013 at 7:35 PM ^
Ideal candidate: 6'4", rocket arm, rugged good looks, and the ability to call a game that produces positive rushing yards against stunningly bad defenses. No visors allowed, though. I hate visors.
November 9th, 2013 at 7:40 PM ^
...he has to have kind eyes. I think that's important.
November 9th, 2013 at 7:46 PM ^
November 9th, 2013 at 7:55 PM ^