Snowflake Thread: Coaching

Submitted by Black Socks on

Up 7 to uber conservative offense - to delay of game - to punt - to horrendous pooch - to allowing three consecutive bombs.  I am a sunshine blower but that is the worst game management I've ever seen.

uminks

October 12th, 2013 at 10:54 PM ^

left RR in better shape then RR did Hoke. These problems of youth and a lack fo depth fall right on RR. He did not recruit well enough to provide this team with upper class men and many of those he did recruit have left.

uminks

October 12th, 2013 at 10:12 PM ^

I knew this was not going to be good season after the Akron game. I knew we would lose 5 or 6 games and that we have major problems on the OL and lack of a pass rush. I've kind of threw in any high expectations for this season. I was still holding out the hope we could win this game, IU and IA and finish potentially finish at 8-4. Now I think we may be lucky to finish 6-6 or 7-5. May be the next several years we can win one extra game each year until we are winning 10 or more games per year.

uminks

October 12th, 2013 at 10:12 PM ^

I knew this was not going to be good season after the Akron game. I knew we would lose 5 or 6 games and that we have major problems on the OL and lack of a pass rush. I've kind of threw in any high expectations for this season. I was still holding out the hope we could win this game, IU and IA and finish potentially finish at 8-4. Now I think we may be lucky to finish 6-6 or 7-5. May be the next several years we can win one extra game each year until we are winning 10 or more games per year.

WolverineFanatic6

October 12th, 2013 at 10:15 PM ^

Not drunk or inebriated in the slightest. If you think the staff didn't cost is this game then you sir are the drunk one. Go watch all of Brady's road games vs decent teams or better. Were Inept in everything with this staff on road. There were more then several egregious errors made by this staff that cost is the game.

WolverineFanatic6

October 12th, 2013 at 10:25 PM ^

Hey if you're fine with losing games we should win then congrats bro. Michigan football is about championships.

When you coach that poorly that often, I'm going to say something. I pay for seats I have a right to critique the product.

Also I coach football so I can speak on the matter.

WolverineFanatic6

October 12th, 2013 at 10:41 PM ^

That's not what I'm saying. The predictability was atrocious. I absolutely thought he would make the kick but the way the game was going you couldn't bank on that. I'm more pissed that Borges refused to even try to get that first down the second he called that run. Why not put it on DG's legs. He was the one doing work on the ground.

SDCran

October 12th, 2013 at 10:17 PM ^

I'm thinking the injury situation may have been worse than we are thinking. DG was a little wobbly, which may be why we moved from running bootlegs. Plus the OL was a mess from the beginning, but was much worse by the end with Bryant and TL out

SDCran

October 12th, 2013 at 10:20 PM ^

I know they went conservative, but which ones did you really think were bad ideas. The only one that really made me ugh at the call, as opposed to the result, was the play Shane came in for. That was a wasted down when it mattered. The rest were settling for a game winning FGS from well within range, or running the clock down from 3:00 to 1:00. It doesn't feel great, and in the end they lost, but which were really the wrong call

ppudge

October 12th, 2013 at 10:26 PM ^

The delay of game which cost us 5 yards and hence forced us to punt rather than kick a clinching field goal with one minute left.
The having to spike the ball with 13 seconds left after Gallon had gone out of bounds.
Why didn't we run another 5 yard out with 7 seconds left which would have made Gibbons' 52 yarder a 47 yarder (and he was short by about 3 yards).
The utterly conservative play calling in OT - settling for long FGs.
The play in OT where it was 3rd and inches and we ran Toussaint (because that worked so well all night) for a 1 yard loss rather than just sneak it for the first down.
There was a litany of dumb decisions by the staff and hence, the reason for the meltdown.

SDCran

October 12th, 2013 at 10:33 PM ^

The runs up the middle you refer to were all before mid-length game winning FGs. You can complain, but those aren't dumb calls. Your reliable kicker missed 2 winning kicks you have to count on.

7 seconds left is no man's land at the end of regulation. I won't blame them for trying the kick there

The lack of TO on the delay of game is definitely legit.

Do I think they could have done some of it differently, of course. But most of those aren't bad calls. If Gibbons hits either of the 2 in OT, you wouldn't be talking about those being too conservative

lilpenny1316

October 12th, 2013 at 11:06 PM ^

You're asking a kid to nail a long FG in OT with 100,000 angry fans.  Gibbons has not faced a pressure situation like that on the road in a hostile environment.  

We went away from our best rushing play, which was DG up the middle.  The read option went bye-bye in overtime.  The coaching failed these kids in OT.

Also, Matt Millen agreed with the OT playcalling.  That right there should make you question the play calls.

snarling wolverine

October 12th, 2013 at 11:28 PM ^

Those FGs really weren't long.  I believe the two he missed in OT were from 40 and 36 yards, well within his normal range.   You can argue that the playcalling wasn't great but it was done with the expectation that he'd come through, like he usually does.

Also, given that the score was tied each time, it wasn't that pressure-packed.  MSU last season, when we were down 10-9, now that was pressure.

 

 

lilpenny1316

October 12th, 2013 at 11:39 PM ^

It's just different to be at home as opposed to the road.  

The first kick was blocked, so I know it's not fair to hold that against him.  I just don't like the conservative playcalling.  I think DG earned enough trust from the coaching staff in the second half to give him a run/pass option or zone read option in that third overtime.

snarling wolverine

October 13th, 2013 at 12:00 AM ^

He has made his share of FGs on the road, including the game-winner at UConn earlier this year.  And he did make three tonight (including a couple of go-ahead kicks in OT), just never when it would have ended the game.

I didn't love the OT playcalling (particularly the 3rd and 1 off-tackle play that got eaten alive), but if Gibbons comes through like he normally does, it's a moot point.  The guy had made 16 of his last 17 coming in.

 

 

CR7

October 12th, 2013 at 10:29 PM ^

Mattison's soft D doesn't break at the end of the game, none of this 'Hoke out' shit is spouted. Have to ask, though, if the coaches even watch film.

lilpenny1316

October 12th, 2013 at 11:20 PM ^

That wasn't soft D; that was three amazing PSU catches.  The delay of game should not have happened.  I could forgive the spiking the ball, but you had seven second on the clock.  Just make sure your QB knows to chuck the ball out of bounds if no one is immediately open.  The last minute of regulation and overtime was poorly managed.

CR7

October 13th, 2013 at 7:47 AM ^

It was soft. Why are you not blitzing in that situation? Don't give the QB the chance to heave it deep. Make him scramble, make him panic. Make the freshman make a mistake. It was horseshit from Mattison like it has been all season. Lack of pass rush isn't the D-Lines fault when every hitch and slant in the world is open because the receivers have a 10-yard cushion.

WolverineFanatic6

October 12th, 2013 at 10:31 PM ^

How do u botch a pooch kick? I've never understood how so many punters blast it into the end one. Rugby style there is so much more effective...

goblue81

October 12th, 2013 at 10:34 PM ^

I knew the rushing stats (minus DG) were bad, but seeing them posted now, sigh....  At what point do you decide its not working and try something else?   We ran spread option a few plays (one was really successful one was really bad).  We ran I-Form of DOOM a few dozen times for no success ever.  I just can't understand why this staff is so damn stubborn.  

We should only be under center maybe 10% of the time.  The rest should be in shotgun or pistol formations with 3-4 WR sets.  Spread out the defense and don't let them stack 8 or 9 in the box purely by formation.  Yes, DG is turning the ball over.  I-Form and punt doesn't score points either.  Take a chance - grow a pair - whatever.

I feel sorry for Fitz - he has no earthly chance of making it back to the line of scrimmage 50% of the time he takes a hand-off.  Then there are rarely holes even if he makes it back to the LoS.  He deserves a goddamn medal for not getting killed back there.