BiSB

August 12th, 2013 at 10:25 AM ^

I think he does want a workhorse, but he wants that workhorse to get a healthy majority of the carries (60%-65%), not OMG ALL THE CARRIES. I think he mostly doesn't want a 40-40-20 split scenario.

not TOM BRADY

August 11th, 2013 at 8:16 PM ^

Green wont be out of shape when the season starts. If you listen to WTKA Marcus Ray said you can lose around 10-15 pounds during camp. Green will be fine, the face that people are complaining about this is a joke. Get a life a stop worrying if someone is five pounds overweight.

Brown Bear

August 11th, 2013 at 8:19 PM ^

To the guy who says Green looks fat and out of shape. Get your eyes checked. Seriously. You must be the supreme specimen of a human being to call what I see in those pictures "fat and out of shape."

MGoShoe

August 11th, 2013 at 8:27 PM ^

...is patently stupid. He's a workout beast. Here's what Fred Jackson said about his weight today in this free Scout article about the RBs.

Coming into camp carrying more than a fair amount of hype, true freshman tailback Derrick Green also brought a bigger frame than expected, weighing in at 240-pounds. Normally cause for some concern for a player looked upon to carry the ball immediately, Jackson assuaged the idea that the former five-star recruit will be too heavy to hit the field.

Right now, you don’t see any evidence of it,” Jackson said. “You got to wait. After two-a-days are over he’s going to lose some weight. I don’t know what his playing weight is, coach Wellman is going to talk to me about that as he see’s him more but I don’t know about that situation right now. After a couple weeks I’ll know.

I know that when I saw him on the high school film, he was 240. He’s a big guy. You got to look at him from the back and the side -- that’s a huge human being.”

Suffering a minor injury in camp last week, Green has been sidelined ever since. Not expected to miss any significant time, Jackson still envisions Green will be in the mix for the starting job.

“I think he’ll still have that ability because he’s in the mental part of it,” Jackson said. “He’ll be fine that way.

“You lose a little bit physically but mentally he’s in the meetings and stuff,” Jackson said. “He’s going to be all right. He’ll get back and be ready to go here real soon. I don’t think it’ll hurt him that much.”

In the short time watching Green in practice, Jackson believes the Wolverines have a good one in the making.

“He can make you miss,” Jackson added. “He’s got great feet, a lot better than I thought, and I think he’s going to be as advertised.”

MGoShoe

August 11th, 2013 at 8:42 PM ^

...say that, but I know for a fact that Jackson was closely monitoring Green in the months leading up to him reporting to campus. A colleague of mine sat next to Jackson on a flight into Richmond in April or May. During the flight, Jackson told him that he was on his way to visit Green and that if he wasn't in shape he was going to work him out in his backyard. I took the latter part of that to be a joke, but the visit was no joke. They've been monitoring him closely and I just don't see this to be a big deal.

FreddieMercuryHayes

August 11th, 2013 at 10:04 PM ^

Except Ball did beat out two guys for the starting job who were ahead of him; James White and John Clay. I apologize for my mistake; I was getting my UW big backs confused. Hill's last season was 2008, and Ball's frosh year was 2009. But example still stands. Ball beat out B1G offensive player of the year Clay as well as B1G frosh of the year White (both 1000 yard rushers) after dropping 26 pounds from 231 to 205. The rest is history.

Chi-Blue

August 11th, 2013 at 10:07 PM ^

Le'Veon Bell while at MSU was listed as an inch or two taller and basically the same weight (237). I personally think that if Hoke could have picked one RB in the BIG that he could have had on his team it would have been Bell. That would seem to be the prototyical body type that he would love to give the ball too like 25-30-times per game. After going through 2 a days and all the conditioning Green will be around 230-235 and hopefully eating LB's and DB's!!! 

The FannMan

August 11th, 2013 at 10:23 PM ^

Only the Michigan fan base can get the best running back recruit in the country, then worry that he is out of shape, and then argue about it. The best part is that there hasn't been a down of football played yet.


zeda_p

August 11th, 2013 at 11:37 PM ^

Fit & finish wise, looks like Adidas has the unis under control. Lots of M's, though.
Might have have been cooler to do a ghosted 'M' over the nameplate?
(kinda like the shoulder treatment of the mid 90's.)
Overall, still happy. I want Adidas to do well. 

robmorren2

August 12th, 2013 at 2:18 AM ^

Body compositions mean nothing. It's all about coordination, quick twitch muscle fibers, leverage, and so on. I went to HS with a guy that played MLB and made it to state in track for hurdles. He weighed 240 and had back rolls when he stood with bad posture. Some guys don't have the metabolism to get ripped up, but they still have the genetics to be athletic as can be. Jerome Bettis would be a prime example. He succeeded at all levels, and probably met the requirements to classified as obese during his entire career. Also, a guy with that much muscle that is exercising as much as him could easily lose a pound about every other day. Losing 5 or 10 lbs would be no problem if they want him to lose it before the season starts.

MGoStrength

August 12th, 2013 at 9:43 AM ^

A well respected strength coach once said:

The best athletes rarely outperform their peers in pre-season testing like bench pressing and squatting.  Their distinguishing qualities are motor control.  The ability to exert strength quickly, deactivate muscle quickly, and optimally project forces throughout the body linkage is characteristic of this skill.  

But, that being said, you'd be a fool to believe that manipulating your body composition wouldn't improve your performance.

 

uminks

August 12th, 2013 at 4:06 AM ^

It looks like he put on a lot of upper body strength in the Gym.  I see him losing 5 lbs in camp and 5 more during September. He should be around 230 by October.  I don't believe he was ever 220 with that frame.

maizenbluenc

August 12th, 2013 at 8:33 AM ^

looking at our O-Linemen, Wellman will fix it / get it right. Green's a freshman, just give him time. I'm imaginingo eggs, chicken, and fish in his future, and not very many carbs.

In the meantime, if Fred and the coaches say he is good enough to play, then so be it. I know we don't play them, but my mind brings up 1st and goal from the one yard line at Illinois: now imagine that scenario with Kerridge and Green in the backfield ...

Decatur Jack

August 12th, 2013 at 11:19 AM ^

Calm down, everyone.

Green's not out of shape. The top photo looks different than the group photo. His shirt's untucked in the top one and he's walking (see Tuley-Tillman behind him similarly).

In the group shot there's no indication that he's overweight.

DenverBuckeye

August 12th, 2013 at 3:43 PM ^

Having met Green in person, I can definitely say that he is thicker in the mid-section (unless that camera played some tricks). He was really proud of his core and how thinned out he was in the middle. Said it made him feel more balanced and fluid moving laterally.

And yes, I had a conversation with Green about his battle with weight. I told him I was very impressed with how hard he had worked and he appreciated the encouragement. We talked about his battle for about ten minutes and he lit up like a little kid at Christmas.

Cold War

August 12th, 2013 at 4:03 PM ^

 

First, the disclaimers. Green is a great prospect and I'm elated he's here. I also think we've got about the best damn staff in the country. Most of the guys are looking awesome.

But t here's no denying Green looks heavier here than I'd like. His face is too round, his mid-section looks too thick, and there doesn't appear to be great definition in his lower body . He obviously has a lot of arm muscle, but there's some padding and hang in those. True, he is a kid and camp will do wonders. Just not crazy about how he looks out of the gate.

Bluntly, a few of the coaches could drop some weight. Mattison could use a bra. I'm concerned for their well being and it wouldn't hurt image-wise.