What's his deal?

Submitted by Gulogulo37 on

Didn't see this on the board:

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/campusrivalry/post/2010/11/stan…

In regards to possibly hiring Harbaugh if RR is fired (pray for Martin's ankles), I'm still a bit wary of him personally even though I think he's a great coach. OK, you kicked their ass. Not too diplomatic, but whatever, he's a football coach. But really, what's his deal with talking shit about the other coaches? How much coke does this guy do?

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Gulogulo37

November 3rd, 2010 at 10:57 PM ^

I don't see an option for editing my comment when I access this thread or on the mgoboard faq, so I'm just posting a reply up here. But strangely I have an option for editing this comment.

You guys are right. I take it back. I didn't think about the context and don't see any problem with the comments since it wasn't like it was a press conference. I just rarely ever see coaches quoted from their post-game locker room talks and didn't think much about it.

The other thing I had in mind regarding his character that some others either don't know about or don't know why it's an issue with some is his comments regarding his hypocritical comments regarding the Michigan's academics for athletes and his DUI charge. Nothing to sneeze at.

Regarding the coke thing, I was just joking around. Not sure why that's such a big deal to some, especially to those who also comment on my sensitivity. Again though, it was dumb of me to say it given the context.

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BlueintheLou

November 3rd, 2010 at 10:26 PM ^

What's the context? To me it sounds like those quotes were taken from a speech to his players, which, if you ask me is totally fine. He should be praising his players like that.

Unless he was unprovoked saying this only to journalists, there is no issue, and even then, whatever, he is a fiery guy.

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mgokev

November 3rd, 2010 at 10:30 PM ^

It's not like he came out and said that on the podium in a press conference.  It was in praise to his players after the game (I assume in the locker room).  Watch some of the Barwis pep-talks or be in a locker room during any level football game.  I remember in high school in a playoff game our coach said "You're kicking their ass up and down the field but that's not good enough.  I want you to get out there and genuinely f***them up and I don't mean 'nice work we won big', I mean a 'we just won by 50 points and f***** their s*** up.'"

I would have to think that in a celebratory speech after the game, saying to your team "we kicked their asses" is fairly common in the joy of the moment.

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antonio_sass

November 4th, 2010 at 4:47 AM ^

Alright. I'm pretty drunk, and I doubt anybody is going to read this, but...

Shit. This is what football is all about. I'm in bed and just slammed my pillow in some sort of nebulous  barwis rage. It just makes me sad that we have a guy giving speeches like this, and then our defense goes and gets shitted on.

RR's offense + An upperclass-laden defense + a competed DC + Barwis speech VS. Ohio State? I just creamed my panties. Twice. Newborn baby Christ, I hope this happens someday. And somebody films it.

Go Fucking Blue.

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MGoShoe

November 3rd, 2010 at 10:32 PM ^

...don't see the issue here.  This is the quote from the source article in the Seattle Times:

All of it made for a buoyant Harbaugh in a holding area between the Stanford locker room and the media awaiting the Cardinal.

"Dominating!" Harbaugh hooted at his players. "We kicked their ass every which way! One hell of a job on both sides of the line! Dominant, dominant!"

Then Harbaugh referenced Pete Carroll, Lane Kiffin, Steve Sarkisian and the UW head coach's defensive coordinator, Nick Holt, and said, "What are you guys, 5-1, 6-1 against that group (in his four-year tenure)? That's the highest-paid coaching staff around!"

Not sure what's wrong about firing up your own players and congratulating them on their success.

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twohooks

November 3rd, 2010 at 10:32 PM ^

Anyone affiliated with USC under Pete Carroll can have seconds when humble pie is being passed about. Any form of servings is acceptable in my book. Harbaugh knows this too.

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Callahan

November 3rd, 2010 at 10:34 PM ^

I don't understand the schism in the fan base over Jim Harbaugh. He's 1) one of our greatest quarterbacks ever; and 2) one of the best coaches in the country. He's done nothing to make the media talk about him as some sort of anointed and inevitable successor to Rodriguez other than those two things. Yet, if you're a RR supporter, you for some reason hate him.

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mejunglechop

November 3rd, 2010 at 10:58 PM ^

That's a bit of an overstatement. The chatter didn't start until last year when Harbaugh got his first winning record. Not that that should color how we see him as a potential candidate anyways...

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MGoShoe

November 3rd, 2010 at 10:55 PM ^

...are plenty of RichRod supporters who also like Harbaugh (and I'm one of them).

I hope Michigan is successful enough over the final four games that Brandon is able to retain RichRod.  If we're not (i.e., the team goes 0-4) which hypothetically leads to a RichRod firing, then in my book, Harbaugh is the clear number one choice for a successor.

Does the fact that Harbaugh and I attended Michigan at the same time (for two years anyhow) make a difference in how I view him? Absolutely.  I'm sure alumni of my vintage and older and fans who've been following the team since at least the mid-80s are much more likely to view Jim/Bo favorably than those who didn't experience him as a player.

What the hell's not to like? Coaching pedigree. Check. Michigan heritage. In spades. Current coaching success (on the field and as a recruiter). Yep. NFL credibility. Uh huh (his own and the reflected cred from brother John). 

In summary. Me: RichRod supporter who hopes he's retained but will be pulling for Jim/Bo to be hired if that's what it comes to.

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NateVolk

November 3rd, 2010 at 11:19 PM ^

We could be looking at a top 5 national coach with Harbaugh.  I don't have any idea how coaching changes work, but the possibility of getting a guy this good has got to be a factor in evaluating Rich.

Think Rick Carlisle getting fired by the Pistons then the team hiring Larry Brown.  One was a very successful coach,  the replacement was just operating at a higher level.   No knock on Carlisle.  You can bet Carlisle might have gotten another shot without the knowledge that Brown was available.

Harbaugh is making a strong case he is such a coach. Like you say, the fit is glove perfect.  If there is a delicate surgical quiet way to feel out that scenerio, while still giving Rich the opportunity to earn more years, Mr. Brandon is the guy to do that.

To the Rodriguez people who hate discussing life without him coaching Michigan, he need only be average the next 4 weeks and he is probably safe.  Can't be much more fair than that considering his overall league record in 3 seasons.

 

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NOLA Wolverine

November 3rd, 2010 at 11:24 PM ^

Problem is so we already did that pretty much. We got Rich Rodriguez, the hottest commodity in coaching (at the time). While I'm wary about not allocating a good amount of blame for the demise of the defensive depth chart on him, I think you have to ride this one out. Although I suppose Brandon wasn't the one who made that bet, so it doesn't mare his name too much.

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Bosch

November 4th, 2010 at 9:00 AM ^

but that has nothing to do with my dislike for Harbaugh.  The guy sold out Michigan as a preemptive excuse for potential recruiting difficulties at Stanford.

The reality is that if it wasn't for football, he would never have sniffed the Ann Arbor campus.  Michigan protected him by giving him a course load that he could handle.  What did he want to do?  Pursue an engineering degree?  Is it possible to FOIA someone's transcript?  I'd like to see just how "easy" his General Studies curriculum was.

If he were ever to join the coaching staff at Michigan, I'd certainly support him, but I wouldn't respect him.

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mGrowOld

November 3rd, 2010 at 10:40 PM ^

I completely disagree with your post and think your last line was uncalled for.  I've coached football and what Jim said to his team was totally in line with what any coach (Rich included) would say to his team after a big game.  He was PROUD of them for God's sake.

If that bothers you I suggest you stick to activities where your delicate sensibilities aren't so easily offended. 

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buddha

November 3rd, 2010 at 10:43 PM ^

I think it's awesome. I'm happy to see a coach so personable and amped with his players. I love it...

And, I'm confused why celebrating a victory with his players must mean he's doing coke? That needs more explanation than Harbaugh's excitement over winning.

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NateVolk

November 3rd, 2010 at 10:46 PM ^

I heard friends trying to sell me on Harbaugh say that he'd restore a little swagger to Michigan football.

They are full of mularkey.

Looks like he'd restore lots and lots of it.

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