October 12th, 2008 at 8:25 PM ^
I'm sorry, but whether or not you can correctly spell "douche" has very little to do with whether or not Brandon Herron is a fantastic LB. Which he is not, he may be a great kid, a great person and definitely plays football better than I do, but a terrific college LB he is not. Do you read this blog at all? If you do, you would realize that LB is one of the weaknesses of our team.
If you can prove me wrong, I will gladly eat crow, but I'm pretty sure you'll find that the majority of football fans will agree with me on that point at the least.
October 12th, 2008 at 9:05 PM ^
Finally, someone who would rather debate issues than launch personal attacks.
Granted, Herron hasn't had a lot of playing time. But he is a redshirt freshman and there are some other guys who are getting more time. Granted, he's only had 2 assisted tackles. But this kid has great potential. If RichRod ever lets him play. He has speed and a good head for the game. Look at his information on Rivals.com. I grew up watching Penn State LBs and feel I have a pretty good eye for LBs. He may not be in the top of the NCAA now, but I think its a factor of playing time. I don't think you have to eat crow now, but perhaps in a year or two, Herron will be one of the best on the squad.
But that's my opinion.
October 12th, 2008 at 8:54 PM ^
dude, pay your bills before you donate. Seriously...that's just stupid.
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October 12th, 2008 at 9:04 PM ^
I am an avid fan
but you went to OSU for law school
Let's face facts. Rodriguez is the second choice bride. Maybe not even second choice. Clearly Les Miles, who showed that he isn't much of a Michigan Man and hopefully won't even win the SEC, was first choice. We're stuck with a coach from the Big East? West Virginia? REALLY??? That's the best we could do? AND we had to pay a $3M legal penalty because of it? This is really, really wrong and the alumni should stand up and say so.
Regardless of how you feel about WVA or the big east. RR is obviously a good coach. WVA didn't beat Oklahoma with natrual talent
I'm quite sure there would be a large number of coaches - great coaches - who would want to coach the best college football program in the country; with the best stadium in the country; with the best uniforms in the country; with the best fans in the country; and with the best alumni and smartest students in the country. Right? Am I wrong?
Yes, you are wrong. We are not the best football fans in the country
We should not give Rodriguez a free pass to do this to our beloved alma mater / school. The guy doesn't even try to ease us into his new system. He doesn't even recognize that he doesn't have the players to run a full spread offense.
RR has said a billion times that he knows he doesn't have the right personnel and that he's working with it. Which is the reason we aren't really running a "full" spread offense
Thank God the defense and the special teams are still decent; they've kept us from being 0-6 and keeping the losses reasonably close (Toledo would have had some more points as well).
When a defense is bad the other team scores more?? Teach me more.
I could care less how much dropping Rodriguez would cost the university. Most graduates of WVU don't even know how to spell. Is this how Rodriguez is going to treat our student athletes? We're not Miami; we don't go to Jackson State Prison and recruit the fastestt guys there. We actually get good athletes who can think. And spell. And pass exams with out having surrogates take their tests.
I don't even know where that is coming from. So RR is here to recruit fast kids from jail so he can teach them the spread. But he will NOT teach them to spell. Don't even think it for a second
Time for Rodriguez TO GO! NOW! And if he won't go voluntarily, FIRE HIM. NOW! Don't let this get any uglier.
so so stupid
We've got, perhaps, one of the best running backs in the country in McGuffie. He's being wasted. We have some of the best linebackers in the country, who now won't be showcased nationally. This is really a shame.
This is where TJ reveals that he hasn't watched a michigan football game in 30 years
I don't want to see any more of your destruction of this program that thousands of my dollars have gone to support. You're wasting my money and I'm fed up.
Didn't you say you struggle to pay the bills? Bragging about the money you have given UofM makes you no less dumb than you were before
P.S. If anyone from the Alumni Association or LS&A or the administration or Board of Governors are reading this, be sure that you won't get another dime from me as long as you keep Rodriguez as coach.
I assure you, no one cares
October 12th, 2008 at 9:02 PM ^
October 12th, 2008 at 9:07 PM ^
I know this thread is a joke, but I'll humor this guy anyway.
A change had to be made. In Carr's last seven years as head coach, we had two wins over Ohio State and ONE BCS Bowl game win (think about that). We've lost three Rose Bowls, two of them pretty badly and one that was a heartbreaker. We typically lost a game in September to take us immediately out of any hypothetical MNC run, and we always found a way to generally play down to our competition. I've lost count of how many games we've lost in the fourth quarter and how many mobile quarterbacks have killed us. I guarantee you were one of the many people who were starting to get pretty fed up with this whole gig.
This isn't to pile on Carr. He was a good coach and he got us a 'ship. But his ceiling was starting to become 9-3/8-4. Michigan could have decided that underachieving and getting lucky once every 50 years was good enough and stayed in house, or they could've grown a pair and taken a risk. This team could be so bad the next couple years that they disband the football program and tear down the Big House, and I would still support the decision to cut the Bo-umbilical cord and try something different.
I have faith that Rodriguez will make Michigan elite again. If this team shows no improvement next year, I'll be more concerned, but I'm not going to be calling for his head after six fuckin' games. Chill.
October 12th, 2008 at 9:20 PM ^
For the first reasonable response to my post.
And most of what you say I agree with wholeheartedly. Carr was a great coach, but past his prime.
I also was highly frustrated by the spread offense beating us so badly (not just App State, but Oregon too) and consistent losses to OSU. [Going to Ohio State law school did nothing to alter my love for my alma mater and the football team FYI]. I also think once OSU got Pryor (which admittedly was after we got RR), that they were headed for the spread offense too. He is someone to be feared from what I've seen so far.
But my main argument is, he has tried to completely change the program without the matching talent. I've heard all the arguments in favor of doing so (wanting to teach the young players the new system from the get go), but I think there should have been some middle ground. Threet is the best of the 3 QBs we've got, but can't handle the offense right now. What is wrong with the concept of being somewhere between the Pro offense and the spread?
But as for wanting him to go now, I just don't think he can turn it around. Not in the 3 years every one is giving him. At WVU he had White, who was custom made for the spread. I'm not sure he's going to fill all those scholarships in time to change to his system. And that's a lot of time and wasted opportunities.
Plus, missing a bowl game is a big deal. We lose a LOT of money for the University by not going to a bowl.
But since obviously, everyone thinks I'm either a douche or a child molestor, I'll have to leave it at that.
October 12th, 2008 at 9:26 PM ^
"Plus, missing a bowl game is a big deal. We lose a LOT of money for the University by not going to a bowl."
Not really. The bowl money is split amongst all 11 Big 10 teams. As long as all the B10 spots are filled the money is the same. Unless you want to argue monetary loss due to lack of exposure, but that's neither significant nor relevant. Not going to a bowl for one year is likely saving money for the school as they don't have to fly the whole team and band anywhere.
Should we start talking about a subject you have even basic knowledge on? How do you feel about animal crackers? Frosted or not?
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Hasn't lost a case in 13 years...a perfect 7 and 0
October 12th, 2008 at 9:18 PM ^
Mr Hurston, is it necessary for you to point out that you have donated alot to Michigan? Does that make your opinion more valued? We welcome debates and opinions, but there is absolutely no need to bring up a person's socioeconomic and//or politicial situation into debates about Michigan football. If you don't feel the need to abide by common internet message board rules, please stop posting.
Brian, please ban this guy.
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October 12th, 2008 at 10:14 PM ^
Thank you for donating. It is a very good thing to do. I don't think I'm a better or worse person for doing it. I simply think it is a better way to spend one's energy, time and money than to launch attacks on people who post on blogs.
Second, I didn't initiate the ad hominem attacks. I am guilty of responding in kind and should have refrained, so for that I apologize and regret it. But I'm not afraid to identify who I am. I don't feel the need to hide. And, frankly, I don't appreciate being attacked or falsely accused of things or being called irrational simply because people disagree with me.
I'm a fan of Michigan and I'm entitled to my opinion. No one has to agree with me, and that's perfectly fine. But my opinion doesn't require statistical support and shouldn't solicit meanness.
If that's wrong, well, maybe you're right, I should signoff.
October 12th, 2008 at 10:21 PM ^
As for initiating the ad hominem attacks, the first post in response to yours:
"I'm a recent alum, and am part of the alumni association. i don't agree
with you on any of that. that was one of the most irrationale and
illogical posts i've ever read here. and you're '84 grad? that's
unbelievable"
Your well thought out, reasoned, NOT AD HOMINEM response?
"Hey Turbo Cool, Maybe when you grow up, you'll understand. "
As for "I'm a fan of Michigan and I'm entitled to my opinion." Guess what? Not only am I also a fan of Michigan (which means nothing btw in terms of opinions) but I'm entitled to call your opinion the stupidest fucking thing I've ever read.
October 12th, 2008 at 10:07 PM ^
I just finished www.rtbrelay.com. I'll also send you copies of my red cross donations and tutoring/youth soccer coaching recognition letters if you want.
All the good deads in the world, however (and I do support your dedication to fighting MS and hope for the best for your wife and children), do not excuse being a giant fucking idiot and having no critical thinking capacity. Nor does it excuse being a pretentious douchebag and using that as the reason we should respect your post. Now repeat after me:
Respect is not given, respect is earned.
Using pretentious, unrelated accomplishments does not lend credence to your posts, rather it detracts from it.
You are not entitled to anything from Michigan football, it does not exist to please you.
You only get one chance to make a first impression, and yours was worse than nearly anything I've ever seen.
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"That would show that its ok to call someone a douchebag or child molestor here"
Hi! Welcome to the Internet! Enjoy your stay!
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I'm just throwing this out there, but it's fastest, not fastestt...
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I honestly cannot decide if this is pathetic or amusing...
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October 14th, 2008 at 5:37 AM ^
This was a highly entertaining thread.
We had here a guy who thought so highly of himself that he couldn't wait 1 day after signing up on this blog in order to make a fool of himself. He loses repeated arguements, but corrects others spelling and grammar and helps children and old ladies across the street, thus demonstrating his football prowess. Turns out this genious posts under his real name and is an attourney. Whoda thunk it.
But then, while exchanging personal attacks and scolding others as posting anonymously, he threatens a poster with a lawsuit! And the genious lawyer doesn't understand why people post anonymously.
Then finally, he is so proud of his original post that started it all, he deletes it!
Great thread.
October 12th, 2008 at 11:19 PM ^
Here's the thing I don't get. Let's say we fire Rich Rod; who the hell are we going to hire? Les Miles just signed a massive contract with LSU that's paying him in top 3 of SEC coaches; why would a coach who just won a national championship leave for a team that needs massive rebuilding? The Michigan Man angle should be downplayed; Les won't bolt just to satisfy the old timers. Les Miles will never be Michigan's coach.
Schiano is no good now; hiring Hoke would be a joke considering this has been his only decent season at Ball State and his team is senior laden. Don't expect the same from Ball State next year. Honestly, I can't think of a single coach that we could hire. I would love to hear suggestions from people who think Rich Rod should be fired.
Give Rich Rod some time; this team has way too much inexperience, attrition, and injuries to truly do anything this year. Patience has its rewards.
October 12th, 2008 at 11:24 PM ^
October 12th, 2008 at 11:50 PM ^
Thurston. Now, I know I won't be the first to tell you this...but you TOTALLY look like a child molestor in that photo. You probably slapped the hell out of your secretary the day she sent that picture to the web designer.
And, since I can see there's no serious football discussion to be had here, I guess I'll get things started:
Q: You are stuck in an elevator with a tiger, a lion and a lawyer. You have a gun with just two bullets in it. What do you do?
A: Shoot the lawyer twice to make sure he's dead.
October 13th, 2008 at 12:25 AM ^
The trolls are in the minority. Case and point: minimal to no booing after we lost to Toledo. TOLEDO! There were the occasional douchebags, like the guys who sit behind me, ("Mcguffie is so awful!" "I don't really see an upside with him. I don't see him getting much better." "Mcguffie is dirty"<--WTF? "He's too small." <---Mike Hart anyone? "He always gets tackled behind the line. He can only run well if they block for him" <---!!!!) but they are all idiots.
On a side note, Boubacar Cissoko; great corner, or greatest corner? He was consistantly lining up against a receiver who looked like he had at least 6 inches and 40 pounds on him and was *GASP* playing press coverage (!!!!!!)and dominating him*. He likes to hit people and aid in run support (I'm looking at you Morgan "Slide Tackle" Trent). On the 4 and 1 he pressed the much larger receiver, didn't let him get off the line and after he made the catch wrapped him up and brought him down solo short of the first down giving us a shot to drive down the field and win the game.
I already love this kid because I am sick of seeing Morgan Trent with his 4.3 speed playing 7 yards off the line and immediately backpedaling after the snap, essentially giving opposing teams the hitch, (I mean seriously, how many times did Toledo get us on those 5-7 yard hitch and comeback patterns) which in turn forces Trent to rely on his ability to make tackles after the catch.
I know he might not trust the safety help but Trent really only gets beat when he is in zone coverage, he is at his best man to man. We have the horses at corner to line up man to man on every down, and we just can't trust the linebackers and safetys when everyone is in zone (as proven by the play on the field) so maybe we should drop the zone for the corners, have them line up man to man on every down and save the zone looks for safetys and linebackers only.
Hopefully DWar isn't too banged up because a nickel formation with Boo Boo, Trent, and DWar would be amazing, and might eliminate some of the problems we've been having with slot receivers. How many times has combination Stevie Brown/John Thompson allowed slot receivers to run absolutely wild on our D (EX: 1. Arrelious Benn every time he was in the slot was wide open. 2. Crazy dred dude on Miami. 10 catches. 3. #1 on TOLEDO! seriously that dude had 20 catches! 20!). 4. Slot receiver for Utah had 7 catches.) The slot guy always seems to be the one who makes those big catches on first and 3rd down that either move the chains or put them in 2nd and 3rd and manageable.
*Except on one run play where said receiver exploded Boo Boo sending him flying 5 yards through the air.
October 13th, 2008 at 1:45 AM ^
How many teams honestly have good offenses when you graduate the schools leading passer, rusher, and a 1st overall DC LT?
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