[Title edited]: Dennis Dodd (lists possible penalties which) Big Ten (might) threaten, (up to and including) TV Ban and withholding of revenue
This to me is cause for departure from the conference if they seriously try to do this. Messing with the money means nuclear option is viable.
https://x.com/dennisdoddcbs/status/1721697645758906396?s=61
[edit @10:10 pm: the end result is a bit unwieldy, but in an attempt to clarify the OP's original thread title, I simply edited in everything that you see in parentheses. -rob f]
November 6th, 2023 at 8:40 PM ^
Agreed. Leave the B1G immediately and sue them
November 6th, 2023 at 8:46 PM ^
If they try to withhold our revenue, we will obliterate them in court. If they try to ban us from TV, Fox will obliterate them for us.
November 6th, 2023 at 9:00 PM ^
You're exactly right, and what you've stated is why they'd never attempt a TV ban. It's totally unrealistic and too stupid for even the B1G to try.
And yet there will probably be 1000 comments on this thread in 2 hours.
November 6th, 2023 at 8:46 PM ^
Clickbait, don't click. OP - be better. Just summarize and don't include the link. This is war time.
Did you clear this with the war time consigliere?
November 6th, 2023 at 8:51 PM ^
He didn't even summarize, he distorted the tweet. It actually says:
potential disciplinary action that could range from a reprimand to a TV ban or withholding revenue.
November 6th, 2023 at 8:56 PM ^
That reads to me as a threat. Why else even mention it?
November 6th, 2023 at 8:59 PM ^
Because it is literally the range of penalties listed in the Big 10 policy manual. There was no threat made -- the Big Ten said "you're under investigation" and Dodd went and looked up all of the possible penalties.
It's as banal a tweet as someone saying "Bob is under investigation for possible tax evasion. The penalties range from probation to 100 years in SuperMax." That's not a threat.
November 6th, 2023 at 9:02 PM ^
It's time to cave to the conference then and agree to a good stern reprimand.
November 6th, 2023 at 9:04 PM ^
Eh. Seeing as this has gotten this far I consider anything from the Big Ten a threat.
Dodd’s quote of an AD: “Who’s in charge here?” indicates a strong intent to inflict maximum punishment on Michigan.
November 6th, 2023 at 9:06 PM ^
You & Dodd are correct. This was just a list affirming what tiny petitti has in his arsenal. Sal didn't do anything wrong here either in posting a CBS source. Love him or hate him it's way better than listening to the ESPN tripe.
- A reprimand warning against committing a violation again
- Probation for a specified period of time
- Suspension "for a period of time"
- Contact may be denied to "any prospective athlete"
- An offending university may be barred from scheduling contests with other Big Ten schools
- A school may be barred from having games televised under "a conference television agreement"
- A school could be denied "all or some" conference income from TV or bowl revenue
November 6th, 2023 at 10:03 PM ^
"tiny"
LOL, but Petitti may yet prove to be very deserving of the new nickname.
November 6th, 2023 at 10:29 PM ^
I vote for a strongly worded reprimand to every AD in the conference that has a current or former staff engaging or engaged in any form of signals intelligence.
November 6th, 2023 at 10:02 PM ^
I am?
Anyone here know a good tax lawyer?
November 6th, 2023 at 10:26 PM ^
We have enough “look at me” involved in this situation. Not that hard to be accurate.
November 6th, 2023 at 8:40 PM ^
Wtf is wrong with the big ten and how much is osu paying the commissioner??
November 6th, 2023 at 8:40 PM ^
Response should be well then we will be calling the ACC and SEC as soon as we hang up on you
November 6th, 2023 at 10:32 PM ^
“We’re actively exploring other conference opportunities” based on rumor and innuendo about penalties from your office.
Spell it out before any attempt.
November 6th, 2023 at 8:40 PM ^
TV ban will not happen, Fox, NBC and CBS would consider that cause to void the contracts.
November 6th, 2023 at 8:42 PM ^
Right. Which means this is 10 fakes out of 10 from B1G.
Edit: B1G is not threatening this. OP misunderstood Dodd. Granted, Dodd was intending to sensationalize.
November 6th, 2023 at 8:46 PM ^
No, it's 10 fakes out of fakes by the OP, and 9 out of the 10 by whomever wrote Dodd's headline (remember -- editors write headlines, not columnists).
ETA: should have said Dodd's tweet, not the headline. I thought the two were the same, but they're not. The headline to the article is mostly fine: "Jim Harbaugh readies court action if suspended as Big Ten weighs Michigan penalties beyond coach punishment"
November 6th, 2023 at 8:52 PM ^
I mean, Dodd highlighted the range of penalties in his tweet and lede as a central part of his story. Yes, the headline writer took a step further, but it's kind of nonsense from Dodd, too. He was trying to find an angle.
November 6th, 2023 at 8:55 PM ^
I reported what the headline said. How do I get a fake for reporting what the headline said?
November 6th, 2023 at 9:00 PM ^
Because you obviously didn't read the story. Or, worse, you read the story and still posted the misleading information.
November 6th, 2023 at 9:13 PM ^
You are a naive person if you think that there isn’t an implied threat.
November 6th, 2023 at 10:35 PM ^
Chicken or egg?
Reading comprehension or spelling?
discuss.
November 6th, 2023 at 10:33 PM ^
Because this is MI and reading is a thing, fergodsakes
November 6th, 2023 at 8:40 PM ^
Stupidity... They will lose the contract sooner than later.... They do this, they are going to lose house of cards that they thought was secure....
November 6th, 2023 at 8:40 PM ^
Withhold revenue from Michigan - see how that plays out for you…
November 6th, 2023 at 10:43 PM ^
Let’s withhold revenue from one of the greatest revenue generating programs in the country. Are they suicidal?
November 6th, 2023 at 8:41 PM ^
That's just the theoretical penalties and Dodd's trying to get a click out of you by mentioning it.
November 6th, 2023 at 8:42 PM ^
Big Ten mentioning is a threat. UM has to respond to that with equal force.
November 6th, 2023 at 8:47 PM ^
There's zero indication they directly mentioned loss of TV or bowl revenue in the notice of disciplinary action. Those penalties being listed in the sportsmanship policy which the Big 10 has had since 2019 isn't a direct threat to us.
November 6th, 2023 at 8:53 PM ^
Dodd read the B1G bylaws and these are some of the possibilities listed. Doesn't mean that the B1G has threatened use of any of these in this particular case. Also, withholding revenue could have a wide range in application from $1 to millions.
November 6th, 2023 at 8:41 PM ^
The Big Ten can go fuck themselves. If they violate their own rules to arbitrarily punish Michigan it will get very expensive for them.
November 6th, 2023 at 8:41 PM ^
I'm pretty sure this is just sensationalizing from Dodd. The Big Ten hasn't suggested these as punishments, Dodd is just saying they're technically in the range of potential outcomes. Which is clickbait and nothing else
November 6th, 2023 at 8:44 PM ^
It's a combination of sensationalism by Dodd and then further by the poster. The article most definitively does not say that the Big Ten is threatening anything.
November 6th, 2023 at 9:14 PM ^
Bambi, you're almost 10 years old here. When are you going to grow horns?
JK of course.
November 6th, 2023 at 8:41 PM ^
That seems...incredibly stupid at best
wtf?
November 6th, 2023 at 8:42 PM ^
What the fuck. How on earth does the Big 10 provide an option to fuck Michigan out of TV revenue or a TV ban when they were part of 4 of the top 10 or something like that games last year. Why has Michigan split revenue with crap programs that couldn’t fill their stadiums if their lives depended on it. I hope Michigan goes scorched earth on these fucks and takes all our revenue someplace else along with oregon and usc. Let OSU split their tv revenue with the rest of the shit programs they are conspiring with
November 6th, 2023 at 8:42 PM ^
Seems like that would be violating the contract Michigan has with the Big Ten. I thought leaving the Big Ten was far fetched but if they start messing with the money the school makes, they will be out to the ACC or SEC as soon as today.
November 6th, 2023 at 8:47 PM ^
I’m not sure it is a relationship that can be repaired at this point.
However, everybody involved in this needs to chill the fuck out.
At this point Michigan is going to have to consider whether our players can keep playing. Michigan is being portrayed as outright evil right now. This is incredibly fucked up toward them. This shit isn’t a joke anymore and it needs to stop.
November 6th, 2023 at 8:42 PM ^
It’s time to leave fellas. They clearly do not want Michigan’s services any longer.
November 6th, 2023 at 8:44 PM ^
Have experts study what it would take to be independent and what we could expect for revenue.
At the same time put feelers out to the ACC.
November 6th, 2023 at 8:42 PM ^
My uninformed guess is it is boilerplate language that they have to include in notice - the statement is anything from a reprimand to revenues, so I doubt that is seriously on the table.
November 6th, 2023 at 8:42 PM ^
Leave the conference.
November 6th, 2023 at 8:42 PM ^
A reprimand you say? Nooooo!
November 6th, 2023 at 8:42 PM ^
Dennis Dodd has long been the absolute bottom of the barrel of college football reporters.
November 6th, 2023 at 8:43 PM ^
Leave this PoS conference.
November 6th, 2023 at 8:43 PM ^
That tweet is funny because the range of punishments are "reprimand" to basically costing UM millions of dollars. Like, sure that's the complete spectrum of possible punishments that the Big 10 could try to exact on UM, even though we all know it ain't close to happening.
November 7th, 2023 at 12:54 AM ^
I guess the Big Ten can't vacate wins or control scholarship numbers.