Thoughts on the new Overtime rules?

Submitted by M-Dog on October 23rd, 2021 at 5:07 PM

Illinois just beat Penn State in nine overtimes.

It was fun as hell, but it is not sustainable if we are going to get many games like this.

The new overtime rules where you have to go for two as your one-play "drive" after 2 OTs remove too many of the variables that can end the game:  Multiple plays per drive, distance from the goal line, and potential touchdown / extra point / field goal points differential.

Under the new rules those variables are gone by the third OT:  both teams have the same number of plays (one), from the exact same 3-yard distance from the goal line, for the exact same score.

If you have two high-scoring teams, or two low-scoring teams (like today), you can't get them off the field. 

Thoughts on this or a better system?  Or just keep it the way it was?

San Diego Mick

October 23rd, 2021 at 6:39 PM ^

It's a terrible and juvenile way to decide a game, imagine this being a playoff game being decided like this or even worse the championship game?

Go back to the old system except start the 2pt try in the 2nd OT and maybe put the ball at the 35 instead of the 25 so it isn't such a gimme.

I also wouldn't mind using the NFL system and give them 12 minutes instead of 10.

 

Gulogulo37

October 24th, 2021 at 2:54 AM ^

I don't get why people are so dead set against ties. That 2 point conversion crap was dumb. I'd prefer going to the NFL model but each team gets at least one shot (sudden death makes coin flip unfair, especially in high scoring college football). After the OT period if no one has won its a tie. How has that been bad for the NFL? It hasn't. Rarely even happens.

snowcrash

October 23rd, 2021 at 5:12 PM ^

I don't like that they kept switching ends, but otherwise the new system is better. This game went 9 OT, but probably had fewer extra plays than you would get in a typical 4-OT game under the old system. Saves some wear and tear on the players. 

This is less of a concern, but I also like that games won't end up with ridiculous scores like 73-71 under the new system.

Yost Ghost

October 23rd, 2021 at 7:26 PM ^

I agree the old way was better. Although I don't have a problem with 2pt conversions after 2 OT's, I do have a problem with the format changing to one play drives after 3 OT's. In this age of the transfer portal and NIL, why not ask the players what they prefer.

bassclefstef

October 23rd, 2021 at 5:12 PM ^

I thought it was fun, but very very silly, and the Illinois-Penn St game was the perfect demonstration of how silly it has the potential to be. If it were up to me, I wouldn't have changed anything. If the NCAA thinks that they need a new format to make overtimes go faster, then why not switch to a 1st and Goal from the 10 after thr 3rd OT?

wildbackdunesman

October 23rd, 2021 at 5:13 PM ^

I wasn't a fan of the constantly changing sides of the field.

What about starting in the 3rd OT giving each team 2 downs from the 5 yard line with the ability to kick field goals.  I think that would add more strategy that felt lacking on the 2 point conversion attempts and I think it would end the game quicker than what we saw today.

Voltron

October 23rd, 2021 at 9:35 PM ^

Main initial issue I could see with this model is: Team 1 gets sacked for a 7 yard loss on their first play and then kicks a FG. Team 2 rushes the ball for 4 yards on 1st down and then gets stuck with the tough decision of going for the win or prolonging the game on their second play. Seems to slightly reward the team that went first and ran a bad play.

I definitely think the current OT model has to go though. This game was painful to watch. I like the idea of starting at the 35 so that teams need to at least gain a couple of yards to get into FG range. 

stephenrjking

October 23rd, 2021 at 5:24 PM ^

It isn’t true to the nature of the sport; the way you win is not the same way you play the rest of the game. One piece of evidence: Illinois barely tried to run at all after piling up over 300 yards in regulation  

It would be like choosing the winner of a basketball game with a free throw shootout or a game of HORSE. Exciting, but not exactly what the sport is.

 

snarling wolverine

October 23rd, 2021 at 5:13 PM ^

Before this year, OT games usually went no more than three sessions, when teams had to start going for 2.  They moved that up to the second OT for this year.  That should have been enough.  
 

OT football already had no punting, but at least it had downs and placekicking.  This 2-point fest takes too much away from the game. 

ppudge

October 23rd, 2021 at 5:14 PM ^

I thought I’d hate it because of many of the items you pointed out.  And if Michigan is involved, I’d probably have a heart attack.  But watching it today, I kind of liked it.  I like the fact that they have to actually win by crossing the goal line rather than relying on a kicker to win it.

stephenrjking

October 23rd, 2021 at 5:35 PM ^

Kicking is part of the game, though, and in “traditional” overtime, if you don’t like field goals, you need to gain real yards.

Michigan this year with a clear advantage over most teams at kicker and a demonstrated history of struggling to score inside the 5 would be ill-served if we got to multiple OTs. 

Yeoman

October 23rd, 2021 at 5:16 PM ^

In the end it didn't involve any more plays than three or four OTs would have under the old system. What made it take so long was running everyone to the other end of the field every second play.

If it were me, I'd say call it a tie if there's no winner after the second OT. Ties are a good result when neither team does enough to win. But I suspect that's a minority opinion....

jmblue

October 23rd, 2021 at 5:19 PM ^

I don’t like it.  If you want teams to go for two after touchdowns earlier, fair enough, but there should be more to an OT possession than just one try from the 3-yard line.  And placekicking is part of the game; it shouldn’t be eliminated entirely.

jmblue

October 23rd, 2021 at 5:36 PM ^

We don’t know.  Given four downs to work with, Illinois probably would have run the ball more.

At any rate, I’m sure today will be an outlier and most games won’t need this many OTs.  My argument isn’t based on this game.  I just don’t like giving teams only one play to score per OT possession.

treetown

October 23rd, 2021 at 5:21 PM ^

The old system: after 2nd OT, any TD scores had to go for a 2 point conversion - Seemed fine! 

New system: after 2nd OT, just 2 point conversion plans. ALTHOUGH, this does open Scorigami options. That maybe the system was adopted - someone at the NCAA wants to add a 2 point scoring option besides the safety.

Suggestion: after 2nd OT, move the ball BACK from the 25 and to the 35. After the 3rd OT, if needed, move the ball back to the 45, etc, keeping down so as needed until the ball reaches to the opposing 25 and let it stay there. 

 

softshoes

October 23rd, 2021 at 5:21 PM ^

I rather enjoyed watching Franklin go through that experience. Anyone still have him going to USC? LSU?

I think it boils down to Bret roasting his guys. I hope Harbaugh can find in him to do the same this week.

wolvemarine

October 23rd, 2021 at 5:25 PM ^

I would possibly change it.  We can't have ties because of the playoff. I am not crazy about that...but let's save that rant for another time...

1st and 2nd OT ---- series from the 20. Or is it 25? Whatever. FG and extra points ok.

2nd and 3rd OT --- series with no extra points. FGs ok...just no extra points.

4th OT and all after...2 Point Conversions from the 2.  Come, let us reason together.