Steve Wiltfong puts in 3 new CBs to Michigan

Submitted by Bambi on December 18th, 2022 at 2:31 PM

4 star CB IL Jyaire Hill, he's down to Michigan and Illinois. Expected to announce on ESD this Wednesday, Dec 21st at 4 PM. 

3 star CO LB Hayden Moore, currently committed to Nebraska.

3 star transfer OL Drake Nugent from Stanford. He has 2 years of eligibility left, started the last 24 games for Stanford at C and was All-Pac 12 honorable mention this year. He was ranked outside of the top 1000 as a recruit in 2019, and is currently the #63 transfer player according to 247.

Jordan2323

December 18th, 2022 at 2:37 PM ^

We currently have 86 scholarships according to the depth chart on this page. We have 19 commits and 4 transfers as we speak and looking at at least 3 more and a few more high school kids. Let’s say the overall combined numbers hit 30, that’s a lot of attrition unless Michigan can still carry a lot of covid spots? 

TK

December 18th, 2022 at 4:23 PM ^

I’m not really sure I agree that the 85 is no longer a thing. I think there are limitations on things when an athlete is not on scholarship so it’s not like teams are going to have 100 scholarship guys and 15 are just being paid NIL. I think you can get really good PWO types with NIL money, but I think teams are still paying attention to the 85 number. I think we were at 86 last year from what I counted. I’ve seen people say 88, but I don’t see it. So probably somebody was without a scholarship that normally would have one, but don’t expect us to have a 5 deep at every position because the limits don’t exist anymore. It’s still relevant. 

ERdocLSA2004

December 18th, 2022 at 3:31 PM ^

Can you explain this?

Is the school giving all of these kids money then saying to pay us for your tuition?  Are some kids who may not be big NIL attractors getting the scholarships and the big NIL players are paying their own way?  If there is still technically a limit, then we must be doing something for book keeping purposes.  I’m curious.

JonnyHintz

December 18th, 2022 at 4:16 PM ^

Is the school giving all of these kids money then saying to pay us for your tuition?
 

Yes and no. The schools still aren’t allowed to pay the kids, so the money isn’t coming from the school itself. But there is an understanding between the athletic department, the student-athlete and NIL entities that some of the money is earmarked for tuition. 
 

For example, have MDen sign some of the guys to do a few autograph signings/photo-ops and the money earned is to be spent on tuition. 
 

Notably, scholarships are year to year. Players have to re-sign their contracts every year, so there’s some wiggle room in this and technically, there’s nothing against the rules.

JonnyHintz

December 18th, 2022 at 11:57 PM ^

Well MDen (as the example) is likely charging people to attend the autograph signings and the players are getting a cut of that in addition to player jersey/shirt proceeds. 
 

We’re talking ~$40k each needed for a half dozen players. $240k isn’t much for MDen and that’s assuming those players don’t have other NIL income to go towards tuition.

TK

December 18th, 2022 at 2:43 PM ^

There’s going to be a lot of attrition. I have the current number at 99 (including draft eligible players who have not announced for the NFL yet like Corum, Morris etc, and including commits and transfers). We will probably add 5-6 more which brings us to 105. I imagine 5-6 to the NFL and 12-15 in the portal and/or 5th/6th year guys not coming back. 

A Fun Guy

December 18th, 2022 at 2:38 PM ^

Overall it's been a great to see the rapid success in the portal this cycle. The only downside to all these OL acquisitions is what's implied in terms of attrition. Happy that the staff is showing awareness and being proactive. 

ERdocLSA2004

December 18th, 2022 at 3:36 PM ^

I get that.  You do feel somewhat bad for the guys that have stuck around waiting for their chance and then see the coaches going out and picking guys who play your position.  I think it’d be wrong to assume the guys on the bench now couldn’t be better than the transfers in.  You might have some great guys on the bench awaiting their turn but end up leaving because they feel like the coaches are going to prioritize the transfers.  Its the new college football but it still feels a little unfortunate.

outsidethebox

December 19th, 2022 at 8:08 AM ^

These OL transfers have no guarantees of supplanting those already in the program. In fact, I will be surprised if Nugent starts over Anderson or Crippen...I do think Hinton gets coached up top be an All-American. What we have here is a second string that is likely a top ten OL in the country...and this is where Michigan is going to continue to make "hay"...lots and lots of hay. If Keegan and/or Zinter return this OL may very well win the Joe Moore trophy for the third consecutive year-they might even if both of them choose the NFL.

It would be very nice to add another Hill to the roster-but this is a "lights out" secondary next year. On the one hand, RB may be a concern but with JJ and Davis at QB many issues are mitigated-and there are a ton of kids on this roster playing other positions who were outstanding RBs in HS-I'll take Zeke Berry at RB any day of the week. 

jmscher

December 18th, 2022 at 2:47 PM ^

Are there any rumblings of currently rostered OL thinking of moving on? Love Nugent coming in with two years to be our center. Henderson seems great as well. Hinton seems like solid depth but not ready to start here to me and despite the gaudy recruiting rankings I like Persi/Gentry better. Hope they and Anderson/Crippen stick around. Crippen in particular has been portal over twice (obvs worth it this time). 

The Oracle 2

December 18th, 2022 at 3:13 PM ^

There certainly will be players who decide to leave because of these transfers. I’ve read here that the coaches were going to be fine with Greg Crippen as the starting center this year until Oluwatimi arrived. Now they may be bringing in someone else? If that happens, why would Crippen stay? I think there’s a long term danger for the program in focusing on every shiny object that might be available. Players might be less likely to commit to you if they see that you’re not really committed to them.

AWAS

December 18th, 2022 at 4:11 PM ^

Crippen may be the starter, but what happens if he gets injured?  You absolutely need a plug-and-play replacement at this position--and every other one, too.  If you don't have a 1 and a 1A, your floor just got lower.

Not just depth, but quality depth is what we are building.  I love the idea of a 2 or 3 deep rotation, and a staff willing to put all the players on the field. 

Even better--just think what that does to the quality of practices, when the 1's are facing the (hungry) 1A's every day!  The reality is that UM won't be the place for you if you don't love competition.  It's just getting you ready for the next level.

Indonacious

December 18th, 2022 at 5:04 PM ^

That seems quite unharbaugh like…plus Stanford OL is inferior to UM so just because he started there doesn’t guarantee he would start at UM. If he wanted an east path to starting, UM probably wasn’t the easiest with Crippen/Anderson who know the system and have been waiting (assuming only 0-1 of them transfer). 

BlueinKyiv

December 18th, 2022 at 2:54 PM ^

Nugent was not only the starting center for two years, but both years he was a team captain which is pretty impressive for an underclassman.  Seems like one of those guys whose value is greater than just his physical skillset.