Rashad Weaver Decommits

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https://twitter.com/R_Weaver80/status/691808427765534721

 

I'm sure there will be more mudslinging from this one.

 

EDIT: For those who didn't click the link, he says that JH says they didn't know if they would have room for him and ultimately offered him a PWO. He does thank JH and UofM for the opportunity. Not as bad as Swenson, but some will overreact to it. 

TruBluMich

January 25th, 2016 at 9:56 PM ^

Best of luck to him.  He didn't make the cut and understands that in sports not everyone is going to make the team and get a trophy.  I also do not know the whole story, so I have no opinion on if it was handled correctly or not.  I do feel bad that he won't be able to come to Michigan.  But there are other players who were not cut, so they must have shown something, that the coaches felt warranted a spot in this class.

UMProud

January 25th, 2016 at 9:58 PM ^

This happens in almost every P5 program

Weaver has been taking visits at other schools.  Hard to say you're committed to Michigan when you're doing visits at other schools.  I don't think it's realistic to think there won't potentially be repercussions when you say one thing and do another.

I have zero issues with this and like how Harbaugh is maximizing this class.

FireJimDelaneyNow

January 25th, 2016 at 10:14 PM ^

This is nothing compared to how things use to be done. In the old days, players were hurt and they would make them lick stamps so many hours a week to keep their scholarships. When you put out 85+ offers, you can't take them all. What are we going to do quit offering? These are not commitable offers anyways, they can't be accepted until NSD. Are we gonna cry every time a guy finds out that we offered 85 and too many people want in and he is out? Or is the first to say yes and you are in? Get real! This is no longer the unlimited scholarship era of Bo. You can't over sign non committable offers.

shallowcal

January 25th, 2016 at 9:58 PM ^

Some of you are acting like this kid didn't know. Maybe it's because he's a high school senior and caught up in all the hoopla of the process. This is like sleeping with a girl once, telling her you want to get married in 8 months, then you show up at the alter after not speaking with her for 8 months. Ffs this kid took visits to other colleges, and NEVER took one to Michigan. He's just trying to play the victim and throw mud at our coach and program.



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Victor Valiant

January 25th, 2016 at 10:02 PM ^

It seems obvious to me that these kids are being given conditional offers. Something along the lines of, "I'd like to offer you a spot on the team and if the numbers work out a scholarship as well." Kid commits knowing the risk and knowing his commitment will get him publicity. Kid is finally told the numbers crunch isn't going to break in his favor but he has a PWO spot if he wants it. Kid saves face by trashing Harbaugh for pulling his scholarship knowing full well that it didn't go down that way.

Perkis-Size Me

January 25th, 2016 at 10:05 PM ^

It's unfortunate, and it shouldn't work this way, but the kid is right: it's a business.

Harbaugh was brought here to win championships and to beat OSU. While I really hope this does not become a growing trend for Harbaugh's recruiting classes in the future, as its not a good look, but it is what it is. You look at guys like Saban and Meyer, who've been known push the envelope as far as it can go, but they do it to put the absolute best team on the field and win championships. And they're both pretty damn good at doing that. There's a reason you don't see guys like Bill Snyder and Mike Riley hoisting crystal footballs.

College football should not be this way, but to think its not a business is living with your head up your ass.



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HuskyTeam5

January 25th, 2016 at 10:06 PM ^

JH hires a new DC. DC takes job to run his scheme. DC needs his kind of players to run scheme. JH agrees. Some players offered before new DC don't fit scheme. JH either disappoints said players or the man he just hired. I think you go with the new coach, or he starts regretting his new job. I wish Mr. Weaver great success in his future endeavors.

mgowill

January 25th, 2016 at 10:09 PM ^

Same thing as the Swenson recruitment.  For years people have held this total BS standard that recruiting should be done the "Right Way".  The kids being recruited can visit any school they so choose, even after having committed to a school.  When they change their mind because something better comes along, people don't get their panties in a wad over that.  There's no outrage from the fanbase for the Vic Viramontes of the world.  I'm not advocating there should be, just that when the roles are reversed, there is only the "Damn, wish he was in this class" type of posts.

Jesus people - Jim Harbaugh doesn't take second place when first place is available.  If what he decides is the best fit for the program is Player A over Player B, then the only thing you have to bitch about is the result of his decision.  That result will be measured in program success, and not in how many fucking feelings he hurt along the way to that success.

CorkyCole

January 25th, 2016 at 10:15 PM ^

One thing's for sure. You probably won't see as many lower level recruits committing to Michigan this summer based off how these last few weeks have gone. Whether it's Harbaugh learning a few lessons from the social media parade from these decommits or the kids themselves not fully trusting the offers presented to them, I'm not expecting as much from this summer's satellite camp run.

Franz Schubert

January 25th, 2016 at 10:16 PM ^

Give the staff the benefit of the doubt. I will be shocked if this possibility was not communicated to Weaver long ago. When did he set up his fist OV? Looks like it was long ago. To anyone thinking this was just sprung on Weaver, EVERYONE has known he was not going to be in this class for weeks. Stop taking one biased view and actually consider the fact Weaver was told about this possibility and he took visits as result. Don't make the same mistake of rushing to judge the staff until you know the full story.

Stu Daco

January 25th, 2016 at 10:19 PM ^

Rashad Weaver was never good enough to play at Michigan.  That's why he has offers from Colgate, Mercer, Dartmouth, Columbia, and Lafayette.  The staff probably should never have offered him, or at least made it clear that the offer was conditional.

That said, the outrage here is absurd.  Instead of getting a free ride to Michigan, he's going to get a free ride to another FBS school to play football.  Is that really a tragedy that warrants an article in the Chicago Tribune and Detroit Free Press?  Dear Lord.

NJWolverine

January 25th, 2016 at 10:45 PM ^

Just because Harbaugh didn't want him doesn't mean he can't play.  His tweet was raw emotion, but unlike Swenson, he gave the facts, expressed disappointment, and thanked the fans.  I can see why he was accepted by Ivy League schools.  Very mature response.  Unlike Swenson, I will be rooting for him to succeed.

Stu Daco

January 25th, 2016 at 11:41 PM ^

I'm not attacking him.  I'm just pointing out what should be obvious - he is not good enough to play for major programs.  That's why none have offered him.

If you want to beat Alabama, you don't take commitments from two-stars with Ivy League offers.

NJWolverine

January 26th, 2016 at 4:00 AM ^

Touch the Banner's take is interesting.  He says that Weaver has been working hard to improve and that he has in fact improved.  That's different from Swenson, who has slacked off (according to Michigan's side of the story). 

Guys like Weaver end up being the out of nowhere guys who get drafted.  I'm not saying he's going to make the NFL, but you shouldn't count out a hard working, smart player. 

DMack

January 25th, 2016 at 10:25 PM ^

Let's not start a fire where there is no smoke. It's pretty obvious there is nothing here we all didn't know about. We have been talking attrition for at least a couple month's now and everyone here had him at or near the top of the list. He has been taking visits elsewhere, crystal ballz have him going to Temple and I'm sure that he was taking taking visits because he knew this was a possibility. 

I wish he wasn't upset about it because he did say his position was 50/50 and he understood that it was business. He was offered a PWO (if the education part of it was important) and sometimes having the opprtunity to compete against high level competition is all anyone can ask for.

There are no guarantees in life except one. If Harb. doesn't do well at his job he will be fired!!! Beest of luck to Shad, I hope he succeeds in what ever he chooses and Michigan folks need to stop the negative posts because we all know its business too.   

NJWolverine

January 25th, 2016 at 10:32 PM ^

He admitted being told his chances were 50/50.  That means there was a chance he would not be a part of this class.  He posted how he truly felt, and you can't fault him for that.  He's disappointed but the fact that he was told there might not be a spot for him is good enough for me. 

Criticize Harbaugh all you want, but he's not hiding the ball. 

True Blue Grit

January 25th, 2016 at 10:35 PM ^

The perception of this way of handling commits is going to have ramifications for Harbaugh and Michigan.   So, Harbaugh will have to deal with them.  For one thing, at the NSD press conference, he is going to be asked about it.  So, he better have some response that is credible.  Of course he may also choose to not answer the question.  That will not be a good look IMO.  Also, high school coaches of these kids may be less apt to recommend kids in the future to consider Michigan.  So it could be counterproductive in establishing new pipelines.  

Goblue89

January 25th, 2016 at 10:37 PM ^

Do people really think this is going to matter to kids from the '17 class a year from now? We're talking about about 16/17 year old kids. Make the playoff next year and it won't matter one bit!



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