Member for

10 years 2 months

Recent Comments

Date Title Body
09/20/2017 - 7:20am "Brand Name" and "Insurance"

East coaster lifer here.  There seems to be a "grass is always greener" mentality in some of these posts.  Maybe there was a day where an Ivy degree would give you "protection" or "insurance" (i.e. that ever important foot in the door), but it's less true nowadays IMO.  Finance is now very quant. oriented, so in a way there's not much difference between working on Wall Street compared to Silicon Valley.  To get a foot in the door you need quant. skill sets regardless of where you went to school, the only exceptions between HYPS. 

Just anecdotal, but I have a bunch of friends who went to the "lower" Ivyies like Cornell and Brown, ended up with arts degrees, and wound up having to go to B-School (paying their own way no less) after working dead end jobs.  By contrast, I also have a bunch of friends who went to average schools like Penn State, Maryland, Rutgers and UConn, but graduated with quant. degrees like engineering, who ended up doing quite well.

Another observation is to compare undergrad with grad school.  For example, if you want to be a doctor, medical school is far more important than where you went to college.  I have a bunch of friends who "gamed" the system by attending an "easy" undergrad school so they could pad their GPA and spend more time studying for the MCAT.  For a lot of them it worked. 

So the bottom line is:  Choose the school that has a program in a field you're interested in, and be strategic about your decisions if you want to enter professional programs down the line.

09/26/2016 - 10:04pm This

Has gotta be one of the dumbest athletics departments around.  You lose a core group of players and then sign the coach to a 6 year extension, without waiting a little bit to see if there's a drop off?  The only way this even remotely makes sense is if Kelly really had NFL offers, but I guess we'll never know.  They're stuck with him for at least this year and next year. 

Been popping the popcorn at the ND sites.  I think the main issue they have with Kelly is the realization that he's not Meyer or Harbaugh.  A good coach, probably the best they've had since Holtz, but not at the Meyer / Harbaugh level.  It really eats them up inside, fun to read.  

01/26/2016 - 4:00am You Don't Know That

Touch the Banner's take is interesting.  He says that Weaver has been working hard to improve and that he has in fact improved.  That's different from Swenson, who has slacked off (according to Michigan's side of the story). 

Guys like Weaver end up being the out of nowhere guys who get drafted.  I'm not saying he's going to make the NFL, but you shouldn't count out a hard working, smart player. 

01/25/2016 - 10:45pm Don't Attack the Kid

Just because Harbaugh didn't want him doesn't mean he can't play.  His tweet was raw emotion, but unlike Swenson, he gave the facts, expressed disappointment, and thanked the fans.  I can see why he was accepted by Ivy League schools.  Very mature response.  Unlike Swenson, I will be rooting for him to succeed.

01/25/2016 - 10:39pm So What?

Harbaugh's response will be "I'm honest and open with recruits about where they stand.  Some of my offers are conditional.  I'm all about competition.  But I stress academics, my players graduate, and I never cut a guy before he gets a degree.  Next question." 

01/25/2016 - 10:32pm How is this Bad?

He admitted being told his chances were 50/50.  That means there was a chance he would not be a part of this class.  He posted how he truly felt, and you can't fault him for that.  He's disappointed but the fact that he was told there might not be a spot for him is good enough for me. 

Criticize Harbaugh all you want, but he's not hiding the ball. 

01/21/2016 - 6:13am I Don't Get the November Deadline

How can you expect the staff to evaluate film during the season and then instantly come to the conclusion that there was no room for him, and then tell him?  This stuff takes time, there are games to be played, bowl prep, other recruits, and staff turnover issues.  Maybe it should have been sooner, but I'm okay with this if the staff fired a warning shot at the start of his season like "you're still in his class, but you have to improve if you're ever going to see the field for us". 

Lost in this debate is the fact that his stock fell dramatically during his senior season.  Touch the Banner notes that his technique is subpar.  If anything this shows the danger of offering someone so soon.

12/10/2015 - 8:00am Would Pruitt Come Here to Redeem Himself?

If Pruitt does have baggage that may have cost him a HC position this year, then wouldn't it be wise for him to get away and redeem himself at a program such as Michigan.  It would make his resume look a lot stronger and give him more HC opportunities outside ones in the deep south. 

I guess that's a positive take on the situation. 

12/08/2015 - 9:12am More Teams Will Run the Spread on Michigan

Until we learn how to stop it.  The IU and OSU games are cause for real concern.  Note that Utah and MN ran hybrid schemes, but the plays that worked the best for them were read options or plays where the QB ran the ball.

Note also that Durkin and Ash both said in their press conferences that they will run the spread, which means 4 of the 6 teams in the division will now run the spread.  Of the 3 bottom feeders IU, MD and Rutgers, the Michigan defense as it stands now will probably lose one of those games (like this year at IU) due to the inability to stop the spread. 

I agree with all comments that the next DC needs to have proven experience understanding (and stopping) the spread.

12/07/2015 - 3:00am Jacob Eason?

Jacob Eason looks like a QB without a home now.  He might follow Richt to Miami but I believe we have always been on his radar.

12/05/2015 - 3:02am Why do so few NFL Teams Use the Spread?

I've always wondered why the spread has not caught on in the NFL.  Just a layman's perspective, but I think it's because the spread capitalizes on inexperienced and undisciplined defenders, namely the DE not reading the play, the LBs overshooting or missing tackles, and the secondary taking bad angles.  Defenders who make it to the NFL will not make those fundamental mistakes, which is why you don't see the spread in the NFL.  A fundamentally sound, talented and experienced defense will stop the spread, but since there's so few of those teams in college, you see more teams run the spread. 

The spread also seems like a quick fix solution for college teams who don't want to invest.  Long term I still think it's better to run pro-style because the #1 sale to a prospect is the ability to play in the NFL.  Look at Miles, he's never going to have problem getting guys because he sends so many to the NFL. 

12/04/2015 - 2:25am They Would be Wise to Hire Golden

Ash would be like Durkin (taking a chance on a hot assistant in the hopes that he turns out to be the next Urban Meyer).  The Rut doesn't need that right now, and they can't afford to gamble and lose because they are losing money and subsidizing athletics heavily.  They need a steady hand to make slow inroads in in-state recruiting, which will eventually translate on the field.  Golden is a Jersey guy, he is a good recruiter, and his one flaw is that he's not a good gameday coach.  If it's Golden and a good OC, then I can see this working for them. 


12/03/2015 - 1:05am He's in the Running for the South Carolina Job…

With his track record, I can also see him landing in a AAC or MAC school.

I don't see him going to AL because they already have Mel Tucker (who's been a DC for 3 NFL teams), and Saban (whose background is defense).  Seems like too many egos for one side of the ball.

12/02/2015 - 9:23pm What Other Choices Did He Have?

You can't blame someone for advancing their career, but I just would like to know what other options he had.  It's kind of off putting moving to a school in the same division and then already trying to poach guys. 

Why couldn't he try to get the job at Virginia or Syracuse, two similar programs but in a different conference? 

11/30/2015 - 6:48am Not Really Surprising to Me

This happens all the time in the work world. It's a classic case of attrition, and the reason why so much of the working world nowadays follows the "up or out" principle.  Here, you had two guys, Claeys and Limegrover, who had nearly identical credentials, but with only one spot.  It's easy to see how Limegrover would feel slighted, even if the entire staff are close.  Another example of this is Orgeron, who refused to accept a position that would essentially make him a co-coach with Sark because Sark was hired over him even though he did well as an interim coach.  "Up or out" may sound harsh but it does reduce the internal strife that happens when people are chosen over others (and it's fine if the people who aren't selected are well qualified because they can simply find other jobs easily).

11/29/2015 - 2:44am Schlissel

I think it has less to do with how physical you are and more to do with reading the play and seeing the ball.  I don't see any players on the roster with this ability (Hoke recruited the classic downhill LBs and DEs where this doesn't matter).  It will have to come through recuriting.

Also, I don't think lowering academic standards is the solution because it causes follow-on problems like players not being able to graduate.  We have an Ivy league type Schlissel now who doesn't want to see standards slide and he's said that numerous times already in public.  Another issue is that it's not sustainable.  I have a good ND friend with deep ties to the university (basically his entire family went there), and he tells me the base is very divided now over Kelly even though he's had success on the field due to the academic issues. 

If there's one guy who can convince good players who care about academics to come here, it's Harbaugh. 

11/29/2015 - 2:10am This Episode Will Make It in B-School Textbooks

on how not to handle a situation.  Unreal that all this happened while the administration was not 100% sure Fisher was on board. 

I've always wondered, if they need a QB, why not make a run at Taysom Hill?  On paper, they are a game manager away from being a playoff team.

11/28/2015 - 11:17pm We Haven't Stopped the Spread in Like 15 Years! We Need Talent!

That's what I was thinking when watching the game.  Through all of the coaching changes, the one constant is a defense that still can't stop the spread! 

Michigan is a flawed team.  Both lines, the RBs and the LBs are subpar.  These veterns got a mulligan by getting probably the deepest and most experienced coaching staff in the country.  Some guys like Lewis, Peppers, Chesson and Butt got the training and proved they are good players, but these guys simply aren't good enough.  We just have to hope and pray that their replacements come through next year. 

11/27/2015 - 9:58pm Why Are They Doing This Now???

Unless FIsher has literally signed the papers to be LSU's coach, it's just suicidal to do this now.  There are a lot of openings out there.  If Georgia loses to Georgia Tech and the bowl game, Richt may be gone.  That creates a superior opening IMO because you don't have to deal with Saban every year in the SEC West (LSU also has to play Florida every year).  If Fisher really wants a change of scenery to get away from personal problems, he can pull a Rich Rod and head west to USC. 

LSU fans talk a lot about how their state produces the most NFL players per capita, but where was this program before Miles got here?  This feels a lot like Tennessee pushing out Fulmer.

11/26/2015 - 2:20am Hoke as Recruiting Coordinator?

There's a part in me (and maybe I'm crazy), that sees Hoke an asset if he's being asked to do very specific tasks, namely recruiting and being responsible for one group on the defense. 

Hoke has said he wants to be a HC again but I doubt he gets anything even in this year's market where there are a lot of vacancies. 

If Durkin is gone we need to replace his recruiting skills (I don't think there will be a drop off in coaching given the overall quality of this staff). 

11/01/2015 - 1:29am The Running QB Again

The defense was on its heels tonight because the read options were working enough to keep the defense off balance.  They had to respect Leidner running after he scored on the TD.  It looked like the defense was lost because they couldn't defend the option (this may also explain why the run defense was porous on an average team). 

It looks like Utah was not a fluke.  Going forward I see teams trying to run the option on us, even if they don't do it often.  The LBs were slow in reacting and the extra time the QB had to throw allowed receivers to get open against any defender except Lewis and Peppers.  Thomas had a rough night.  It looks like the drop off after Lewis and Peppers is deeper than expected.  

I don't think this will be an issue in the next 3 games but given the way things are going this team does not match up well against OSU. 

11/01/2015 - 1:48am That's a Very Small Sample Size

You can't judge a guy on 2 plays.  I trust the coaches.  He was clutch tonight and it's nice to know that there's a viable backup (esp. since we don't know if Rudock is hurt), but there's a reason why Rudock starts and there's a reason why Harbaugh keeps heaping praise on Rudock even though he's been very mediocre. 

Also, I'm not sure I buy the Morris redshirting line.  It could just be that Speight is a better QB than Morris. 

11/01/2015 - 1:47am Running Game + Mobile QB

I don't think we can make too much of those ridiculously lucky throws that were off target and late, yet somehow end up in the hands of receivers.  The fact that some of the WRs could get open on Clark and Stribling is an issue but it's not something to worry about if you stop the run.

More concerning was the run defense.  Their RB looked undersized and yet slipped away too many times.  The QB options are an issue.  Utah did this effectively and MN did almost exactly the same thing tonight, and was equally effective.  Michigan won't see that again until the last game, but whoever is back there for OSU is better than Travis Wilson and Mitch Leidner. 

10/18/2015 - 3:25am I'm Not Sure I Agree Michigan Was Better

The breakdowns will reveal more, and I'll defer to those, but watching the game I didn't think Michigan was the better team.  Michigan was much better on special teams with the Peppers punt and kick returns (with the exception of one Peppers fumble), and on punts (before the final play).  This was a HUGE help for the offense because it gave them short fields.  A failed 4th down conversion also gave the offense a short field.  When the offense had to drive the length of the field, they got nowhere except for the first drive.

I thought on defense the secondary played very well but the front 7 was disappointing in the pass rush.  As expected, Cook made some big throws when the blitzs did not get home in time (which was often).  The difference in the game was the offense. Cook was just flat out much better than Rudock.  Both had decent pass protection but Cook made the plays and Rudock didn't.  Even with a middle of the road QB like a Sudfeld, this game wouldn't have come down to the last play. 

It still angers me that Hoke put all his eggs in the Morris basket.  That decision alone was like a 2-3 year setback.

10/18/2015 - 2:29am Get Over Yourselves

This kind of stuff happens (Cal / Stanford band, Iron Bowl TD on a missed FG, completed hail marys).  This team, with Harbuagh as its leader, will get over it, the same way Bama hasn't missed a beat since losing that Iron Bowl.

And it's not as if this was totally heartbreaking.  We got outplayed in every facet of the game except on special teams (sans the last play of course).  It's not as if we were dominating, they found a way to keep it close through some lucky breaks, and then pulled off the upset on the last play. 

10/17/2015 - 11:37pm Reality Check

We need to be realistic and patient.  Even with a W, today's game exposed a lot of weaknesses.  They had 20 first downs to our 10, Cook threw for 328 to Rudock's 168.  For much of game, we were outplayed by a hobbled team limping into the game with major weaknesses in their secondary.  We were only in this game because of Peppers on special teams and MSUs' 4th down gambles failing. 

We have a below average QB, no complete RB, fairly mediocre receivers, and no truly elite front 7 players.  You're not going to get away with that and be an elite team. 

If there two more losses, I am fine.  That's what most of us expected anyways. 

10/15/2015 - 7:15am We're Extrapolating Because the Rutgers Game Revealed a Lot

I've watched Rutgers all year; they're not a very good team.  This game revealed a lot because unlike the Purdue game, MSU didn't jump out to a big lead.  Rutgers was up 14-10 at half and the game was in doubt deep in the 4th quarter. 

The Rutgers coaching staff had 2 weeks to prepare and they came out with a good game plan that Harbaugh and co. can build off of (not that they need it, but whatever).  The only reason why MSU was able to score was because Cook made some huge throws under pressure, throws that are either going to be harder (with better coverage), or not there at all because Michigan will get to him faster.  When MSU is sending out hobbled players in the 4th quarter the week before their Super Bowl game, you know something's wrong.  MSU is not a top 10 team.

I also think you have to look at this game along with their other unimpressive victories.  It's not like OSU where they're dealing with QB issues, but you get the feeling (or expect) them to put it all together when in counts.  With MSU, they are what they are, and it's showing. 

10/11/2015 - 2:47am He's Going to be Pressured

Cook made some clutch throws today when they were down, so that's a concern.  That said, I'm not all that worried because their pass protection was terrible today.  A lot of blitzes worked today, and even with 1:1 coverage the MSU receivers got zero separation from one of the worst secondaries in the country.  They did make some great contested catches, but better secondaries will be all over those balls (and may get out in front for picks).  I can definitely see a panic pick or two next week, along with sacks. 

10/11/2015 - 2:27am Running Game

The Rutgers running game is a little different from ours.  They have 3 scat back types, so they rely on angle blocking to try to get them to the edge.  Their RBs also did a nice job hitting the holes (it's just amazing to see how we still struggle in that area with our backs).  I've watched Rutgers all year and they didn't do anything different today than they did all year, so either MSU wasn't prepared because they were looking ahead, or they just couldn't stop it. 

It seems like the MSU defenders were having trouble defending in space, but they're built to stop our power run game.  It's definitely something the coaching staff can exploit with a guy like Drake Johnson (if he's healthy enough) or with Chesson on the end arounds and jet sweeps, but I'm not sure we can simply assume a power run game will work against them. 

10/08/2015 - 11:31am Rich Rod?

Remember the Rich Rod to Maryland rumors right before the inevitible firing?  He'd get his shot at us once a year.  If he doesn't want to bring Casteel maybe he can hire Tony GIbson!

09/14/2015 - 7:07am Totally Agree

The only additional point I would make is that "top" is relative.  I still think there's more slack for STEM majors than for others.  For example, I had several friends in the BBA program, and it was generally the impression that you needed to be at the very top of the BBA program to get offers to work on Wall Street or Chicago.  I had a good friend who was "average" (3.3) in the b-school, and ended up taking on debt to go to an average law school because he didn't want to be a "glorified secretary" making $40,000 per year.  He ended up doing well, but only because he finished at the very top of his class in law school, but it's a cautionary tale nevertheless.

Another observation is the importance of STEM majors.  It just cannot be stressed enough.  If you look at NJ, a local engineering school many of you have never even heard of, the Stevens Institute of Technology, has an average salary of $82,800, whereas Princeton University (a school you probably have heard of), only has an average salary of $75,100.

09/14/2015 - 12:21am There is Value

I agree that income is only one measure of what you get out of a degree.  I also agree that if you're truly passionate about something, you should do it. 

However, most college students don't have a true passion, so practicality has to be taken into consideration.  The most practical degrees are in the STEM fields.  These stats prove that.  If these stats can get more people involved in those fields, I'm all for it. 

As for your point about contributing to humanity, I don't know about the professions you mentioned.  However, I will say that in my experience, STEM degrees are much more interchangeable and flexible than other degrees.  For example, you can't use a business degree to be an engineer, but it does work the other way.  A lot of Wall Street firms hire STEM majors over business majors because algorithms have become much more important in decision making.  A STEM major has an advantage in the legal industry because they can become patent attorneys.  A STEM major has an advantage in the teaching profession because there's a shortage of math and science teachers. 

Of course, as with anything, you need to do well in your chosen field of study.

09/04/2015 - 8:53am Two Long Term Issues

Two unanswered questions after watching the game:

1.  Deep Ball - Rudock hasn't proven at any time in his career that he can hit the deep ball, even occasionally.  If this continues to be a trend, every opponent from now on will put 10 in the box and dare the offense to go over the top.  This issue works hand-in-hand with the run game.  It's going to be harder for the OL to get any push and for the RBs to have big gains if opponents are constantly putting 10 in the box.  Effectively this means we have no chance against teams that have good LBs who can cover the short routes.

2.  LB Play - Just find it incredible that Michigan defenses are still highly vulnerable to any sort of spread offense.  The LBs are too slow in coverage and can't catch guys going to the edge.  Utah did this the entire night without much speed and without going deep.  I'm not sure this can be fixed except for maybe bringing the safeties closer.  Just a talent issue.  BYU with Taysom Hill is not looking very good right now. 

07/17/2015 - 5:29am Lay Off of Morris Already

I think we need to show a little more restraint about Morris.  From the outside (I'm not from Michigan), it seems like the expectations on him were just too high, reminds me of Henson.  I agree with those who say that he's broken right now and I'll only add that it may be the weight of expectations, esp. from the locals.  For his sake, I think he can benefit greatly from a change of scenery (the talent is still there, P5 schools will want him IMO).  When you watch him thinking about simple screen throws (instead of just naturally throwing the ball), it just makes you feel sorry for him.  

Magnus is hinting at Touch the Banner that Gentry will see the field this year in some capacity, despite being raw and not enrolling early.  If that's true, it's pretty much a total condemnation of the existing QBs, including Rudock.  I think Rudock will be a buffer this year, and next year it will probably be Gentry.

07/01/2015 - 8:45am He Was Also a 5 Star Recruit

I think there's a lot of truth to this.  Just like to add that the perception of being an elite player (a 5 star recruit) may make this harder for Pipkins. 

You do wonder if the recruiting rankings get to a player's head.  For example, here's a quote from Derrick Moncrief (potential transfer from Auburn) "I came in as the No. 1 safety in the country and things are just not going well there."  There's entitlement in that statement.  If I were Harbaugh I would pass.

07/01/2015 - 8:36am We'll Never Know

We just have to let this go.  Unless every party clears the air we'll never know all the facts. 

One sticking point with me is the fact that Pipkins was initially cleared by doctors to play.  Why that happened, under what circumstances (did the doctors get all the facts), and whether Harbaugh intervened, are all questions that are unanswered. 

We also don't know if Harbaugh was actually looking to make room (for example, by adding another transfer at receiver), and we'll never know until maybe Harbaugh writes an autobiography because it would be PR suicide to try to approach a transfer now. 

Another point I would like to know (but will never know unless Pipkens himself releases this information), is how Pipkens was doing in the classroom.  If he was doing well, you could argue that it doesn't hurt to simply have him be a cheerleader on the sidelines.  However, if he was barely getting by, and it was clear he wasn't going to play professionally even if he could theoretically play this year, then it would be a very wise move to quit football and spend more time on academics. 

03/24/2015 - 2:40am Question

Magnus, do you think those number may be artifically inflated due to a poor / mediocre offense?  That is to say, other teams simply ran conservative offenses because they knew we couldn't score.  That makes the defense look a little better than they actually are.  For example, if you look at the MSU and OSU games, it can certainly be argued that both of their offenses probably could have done a lot more.  A couple of other examples off the top of my head (the 2007 OSU game, where OSU clearly could have done more on offense, but didn't because they knew we couldn't even get the ball past midfield, and this year's Florida - Missouri game, where Missouri ran and extremely conservative offense (made Florida's defense look good), because they were counting on Florida's offense / special teams to implode (which they did).

02/28/2015 - 4:55pm I Dunno

I'm all for competition at all positions, but I don't have a good feeling about adding all these QBs, other than the conclude that Harbaugh doesn't have much faith in the current stable.  It probably doesn't bode well for the QBs he inherited if there's literally going to be 5 QBs this year and 6-7 next year.

01/28/2015 - 8:08pm Good Schools Don't Accept a Lot of Transfers

I agree with you that most high school students are not ready for a 4 year college, but do note that good schools do not accept many (some don't accept any) transfers.  If you have the credentials, then going the 4 year route may still be worth it if you can afford it, but do consider taking a leap year to figure out what you want to do.

Also, I don't think people should get caught up on brand names.  If you're a good student, but can't afford to attend a good school, chances are you'll do well at the lesser school that gave you a scholarship, and you'll have the credentials to invest in a graduate program down the line. 

01/28/2015 - 8:03pm Leap Year

My perspective has changed now that I've been out of college for a while, but if I had to do it over again, I would have taken a leap year between high school and college to learn a language overseas.  As someone who often works with people from different countries, I feel strongly now that Americans are handicapping themselves by not mastering at least 1 foreign language.  It's much harder to really master a language (espcially an Asian language) when you have to deal with the requirements for your major, and once you are out of school, you really don't have the time. 

I also agree that the community college route is a good option for the vast majority of high school students.  The fact is, only a select few are really mature enough to learn at a college level by the time they graduate from high school (including gifted students who get into places like Michigan).

01/25/2015 - 10:03pm What's He Being Hired For?

I doubt you hire a guy just because he might be able to land a prized recruit (Rashan Gary), especially someone who's apparently rubbed other coaches the wrong way in NJ.  We're not that desperate.  NJ has some good programs and good players, but Penn State, ND, ACC programs, and obviously Rutgers are active there as well, and so coaches will have choices as far as recommending programs to their players.

I also don't see NJ as being a focal point for Michigan recruiting under Harbaugh, especially given Harbaugh's ties to CA and TX in addition to the continued focus on the midwest.  Maybe Harbaugh just likes a guy who comes in, has immediate success, is extremely aggressive recruiting / poaching from other programs, and isn't afraid to challenge power programs.  How that translates into recruiting in other areas of the country remains to be seen, though.

01/09/2015 - 11:21am Too Many Egos?

I trust Harbaugh with all of his decisions, but I think this hire may bring too many egos to the room.  You have a guy who was an NFL and college OC now essentially taking a demotion to stay employed, working with someone who's only been a OC at a lower level.  You have the same dynamic on defense with Mattison / Durkin, though I think the situation there is a bit better. 

Harbaugh has a larger than life personality to control these egos, but if the offense isn't working and we're losing some games, then I can see this being an issue.  I think our defense will be fine, but I'll take a wait an see approach on the OL development and the ability to run the ball (if we can't run the ball, IMO we are in big trouble given our QB / WR situation).

I also agree that he will probably be gone in 1-2 years because why would he settle for a lower position, esp. when he has no prior connection to Harbaugh. 

12/21/2014 - 8:11pm Jets?

A lot of local media here clamoring for Harbaugh to the Jets.  I think the Jets will be the last hurdle.  If they give Harbaugh a full control plus comparable salary, I could see that being the "gamechanger" we're all talking about. 

Remember, THE JETS INTERVIEWED HARBAUGH IN 2009 before hiring Rex Ryan, and they are not afraid to spend money, so let's hold tight.

12/19/2014 - 9:38am Could it be Base $6 Million

that can go as high as $8 million if he wins a national championship or makes the CFP?

12/19/2014 - 4:09am Seth Post a Good Reminder

Judging by your username, I guess we are both biased because we're constantly bombarded with news about NFL teams.

I just looked at Seth's survey and I came away discouraged.  There was no coach in that list who did what Harbaugh would be doing now if he came back (go back to college when he will likely have multiple NFL options, and where he hasn't failed or been middling as a NFL coach).  I agree that it would speak volumes about Harbaugh's love for the school if he came back.

But I will add this.  None of the colleges those former NFL coaches left for are as desperate as we are right now.  The only school that comes close was USC in 2001 when they hired Carroll.  The desperation and the money the school is throwing around may make Harbaugh an exception, but let's see. 

12/18/2014 - 10:42am Jet is Okay; Very Suspicious About the JUCOs

I'm okay with the jet, especially if it's used for recruiting.  Even Greg Schiano had a jet when he was at Rutgers (there was a controversy over it when it was leaked). 

However, I'm wary about the JUCOs if it's true.  Wasn't Harbaugh the one who said Michigan needed to re-emphasize academics with football players?  How many JUCOs did he accept at Stanford (does Stanford accept any transfers period)?  If he could succeed at Stanford without JUCOs, why does he need them here?

It could be that he doesn't like the current roster and will try to fill key positions (QB) with JUCOs.  No one will blame any coach for trying to bring a JUCO or a grad transfer at QB right now given the current situation at QB.  However, I'm very wary having anyone be above the unversity and be able to override admissions.  This isn't the SEC.

12/18/2014 - 2:50am Because right now, we're the

Because right now, we're the only game in town.  The moment the season is over, official NFL offers will follow.  We are hurt by waiting because if we do so, other NFL offers will almost certainly come. 

12/18/2014 - 1:08am Give Harbaugh an Ultimatum?

Does anyone think it would be in our interests to give Harbaugh a deadline to respond?  If the offer is for an unlimited duration, we risk Harbaugh weighing his NFL options, and then rejecting us.  At that time, we're in early Jan., and would have to intensify Plan B, which means we won't have a coach until likely mid Jan. 

I don't think time is on our side.  This is just a guess (none of us can see the future), but I see Harbaugh getting at least 1 NFL offer on par with the one we just gave him.  That means full control + approx. $8 million / year.  Right now, we see Oakland, NY Jets, Bears, and the Dolphins as options.  When the season is over, there will likely be more openings and more interest.  You only need 1 NFL team to bite, and then we're screwed (unless Harbaugh wanted to come back to college all along, in which case he probably would have accepted by now, or in the next 24-48 hours). 

So there may not be much downside to an ultimatum, if the odds are not in our favor.  If I were Hackett, I would exploit every single NFL contact available to see if teams are interested.  If the Dolphins are interested, I would call Ross and tell him to open up. 

Another benefit to an ultimatum is that we will be telling the world that we are still Michigan, and that we will not bend backwards to attract a guy.  Offering someone to be the highest paid college football coach even though he has no rings (unlike Saban) already is an indication that we're a little desperate (actually, we are desperate).  Simply waiting around after this offer, especially if there's no Plan B, potentially can make us look much worse if Harbaugh does say no.

12/17/2014 - 9:54pm Schefter

I'm not going to dismiss Schefter because I don't see why he would be biased against us.  Yes, it may be true that Michigan insiders have more access to information from within MIchigan.  But it also may be true that NFL insiders have more access to information in the NFL.  There may be natural bias (based on access to information), but it works both ways.

Yes, there is a no poaching period until the end of the NFL regular season, but it's hard for me to imagine that NFL teams who are out of the playoffs aren't trying to get around that by faciliating communications between agents (i.e. no direct contact).  There may be NFL offers already on the table that we're not aware of.

I think we need to take a step back.  Both Michigan insiders / NFL guys may be talking to people with vested interests / hopes.  Ultimately the only person who knows is Harbaugh himself. 

12/17/2014 - 9:05pm But What About $8 Million / Year

Good points, but do you really think Oakland is willing to match or even come close to $8 million / year? 

Look, the only leverage Michigan has right now is money.  it does not appear money is an issue if $8 million / year is on the table.  We have no other leverage at this point because there are no viable Plan B options.  If say, Dan Mullen was seriously on the table, then we could give Harbaugh an ultimatum, before the NFL offers come in, and if he says no, there's a suitable alternative.  But of course, there is no Plan B.