OT-Peyton Manning...might NOT be a good dude.

Submitted by TNBlue1977 on

I had heard rumors about this incident before (including on this board) but never anything in a legitimate news outlet until I saw this article in the NY Daily News this morning. 

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/king-peyton-manning-squeaky-cl…

Obviosuly both sides have their own version of events but this is not a good look for Peyton or the Manning family and some of it is pretty disturbing.

I've never been a big fan of Manning because I think he's a phony who smiles for the camera and is probably not the great guy everyone makes him out to be in his off-camera life but this is worse than I thought.

SBayBlue

February 13th, 2016 at 2:04 PM ^

Left at the receptacle of Naughright 5 years later? Is that a college indiscretion?

How about throwing a fellow teammate under the bus, and trashing the reputation of a female trainer, later ruining her career? Is that considered a college indiscretion?

To me, the original event might be cahalked us as asinine. It's what he did afterwards that is the real story.

bronxblue

February 13th, 2016 at 3:47 PM ^

I agree he acted poorly, but again, this is an article culled from one half of the story, a telling that a court of law didn't find overly persuasive.  We don't know who left the envelope; it could have been a Manning, or it could have been a UT fan who hated her for staining the Manning "name", or some other party.  Manning writing about her in the book (which either is called "Manning" or is out of print/not on amazon) was clearly a PR ploy, but if we are going to take this article's statement at face value, you have to accept that Manning's portrayal might also be correct.  I have my doubts, but who knows.  And as for her career issues, I'm guessing that Manning did bad-mouth her along the way, but there may be more to it than we are led to believe.  I honestly don't know; my point is that King is trying to push a narrative as much as this woman did in her filing.

I'm not victim blaming or in any way condoning Manning and his family, and I think Manning was an absolute asshole back in college.  I learned a long time ago to not deify any athlete, so I don't expect guys like Manning to be particularly inspiring.  But I also have a sense that people can change over time, and so I can only get so outraged about something that happened decades ago.

The Oracle

February 13th, 2016 at 1:56 PM ^

I'm not saying that Manning is a great guy, or that the incident didn't happen, but that piece of "reporting" is garbage. As others have said, it's simply a recitation of supposed facts which were presented by the woman's attorneys, presented by a writer who's real agenda has to do with highlighting the supposedly racially biased way that Cam Newton is perceived by the public. The Manning story may well be true, but it's a mistake to assume that this version of it has anything to do with journalism.

kgh10

February 13th, 2016 at 2:31 PM ^

Because I know how to waste time really well, I read the entire 74 page document. Manning is a piece of human excrement for what he did to that woman. No amount of letters to the Carr family or ribbon cutting ceremonies will change that fact. Imagine working so hard your entire life to overcome barriers to pursue a career you love only for it to come crashing down by one vindictive, but powerful asshole. 

kgh10

February 13th, 2016 at 5:18 PM ^

I think despite it being framed in the plaintiff's view, there are enough objective components in the document that cannot be denied. Additionally, his actions cannot be denied (as far as him writing about her in his book, for example), and his trashing of her character despite numerous accounts of that being false. That's pretty damning even though it's one version of the case. The effect it has had on her life also speaks for itself. Even we are being completely unsympathetic to her during those events, if she did "ask for it," did it deserve everything after that? That in itself almost completely justifies characterizing him as a POS. 

kgh10

February 13th, 2016 at 10:54 PM ^

I'll be honest I don't know how court documents work, so forgive my lack of knowledge. I just think you have to deny a lot of official statements and other written statements from a lot of people involved in her life and who were directly involved with UT during that time (including an eye-witness to the initial event) in order to see that the Mannings were not culpable in destroying an innocent person's career. He just gets to carry on as if nothing happened, who benefits financially and otherwise from a squeaky clean image, and she doesn't get that luxury.

Dailysportseditor

February 13th, 2016 at 2:35 PM ^

As a former journalist and retired attorney, its important that the story of Manning's illegal conduct not die.  The NY Daily News piece is not the first time the story has been resurrected, only to die and fall out of public consciousness.  I

n the 90's I was a university attorney and had to deal with all sorts of sexual harassment claims.  There is more than just smoke here, and the sooner the mass media finally give this story the coverage it deserves, the better.  

Pete Rose is being justifiably kept out of the Baseball Hall of Fame because of his gambling activities.  Manning should also be kept out of the Football Hall of Fame for his sexual misconduct and the ensuing cover-up.

Here are a few examples of past stories on Manning's illegal conduct, several of which did not disclose all of the damaging facts:

1997 Augusta Chronicle--http://chronicle.augusta.com/stories/1997/08/20/oth_213271.shtml#.Vr-Av8eQLWY

2014 Inquisitr.com--

http://www.inquisitr.com/1486872/peyton-manning-sex-scandal-largely-forgotten-even-with-a-witness/

2014 TheBigLead.com-- 

http://thebiglead.com/2014/09/18/peyton-manning-1996-tennessee-lawsuit-trainer-bare-butt-mooning/

 

 

 

BlueMk1690

February 13th, 2016 at 2:54 PM ^

and instead read about Peyton Manning pulling a dumb frat boy stunt on a femaler staffer he didn't like. What he did was sexist and idiotic and obviously designed to humiliate the woman but eh it's not exactly what the term 'sexual assault' would imply as far as most people are concerned.

Doesn't really tell me anything other than that Peyton Manning is/was a dumb jock and is also incredibly obsessed with his legacy. Plenty of dumb jocks out there doing dumb shit including that writer's hero, Cam Newton.

 

 

 

 

MGoMarley

February 14th, 2016 at 12:35 AM ^

What the hell are you talking about "eh it's not exactly sexual assault". So Peyton comes to your place of employment, flops his cock and balls on your face and your just sending an email to Bill down in HR? This is sexual assault to a T. And you most people? I can't fathom how anyone wouldn't think the alleged is sexual assault.

the noid

February 13th, 2016 at 3:11 PM ^

Never liked the Mannings, even outside of my Michigan fandom, this just adds to the disdain for me. I just hope they can now implicate Eli into this some how and things will be complete.

CoachBP6

February 13th, 2016 at 3:15 PM ^

I sensed a thread like this was coming. Anytime Manning reaches a milestone or accomplishment, the butt-hurt on this blog rises.

Good old all American, squeaky clean, Tom Brady, has ghosts in his closet too.



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Huss

February 13th, 2016 at 3:36 PM ^

do you and others like you bother to make points like this.  Who is talking about Tom Brady?  What does he have to do with anything?  Peyton Manning, a deplorable piece of shit who has been enabled by even more deplorable pieces of shit his entire career, forced his junk into a university employees face and then plotted ways to try and deflect blame while simultaneously ruining her career.

The evidence is very, very damning.

That's all there is to it.

 

ericcarbs

February 13th, 2016 at 3:32 PM ^

Wow. Granted what he did was sexual assault, he should admit it. The fact he is stilling denying it is ruining her life and her future. He should have to pay her millions of dollars and so much more.



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Black Socks

February 13th, 2016 at 3:41 PM ^

So you've never had a woman rub her reproductive parts on you in a work environment before?  Happens all the time, and it's not a story 20 years later.

Sopwith

February 13th, 2016 at 4:33 PM ^

I'm just catching up on this now and clicked over to ESPN to see what their coverage is... and there's no mention of it whatsoever. The only Peyton story is about his decision to come back or retire.

Clarence Beeks

February 13th, 2016 at 5:12 PM ^

Probably because it (the lawsuit, which is the basis of the facts of the article) happened a number of years ago and received media coverage (albeit minimally) at the time. Not to mention that ESPN is complicit with the NFL in making his image as a legend, so no way they'd do something to damage that.



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Clarence Beeks

February 13th, 2016 at 5:07 PM ^

It really should be edited into the OP that this entire article is based upon the plaintiff's version of the facts. A lot of people are going to read the body of the OP and not the article itself, or perhaps worse yet the article itself and not have the legal knowledge to understand what it means, and draw a conclusion that the article is based upon facts legitimized by the court (i.e. that they are substantiated facts and not just the plaintiff's version of the facts).



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buddhafrog

February 13th, 2016 at 5:34 PM ^

No matter how shitty someone's actions were, I believe we are all potentially redemable. This story happened a long time ago and it doesn't neccesarily speak to the type of person he became.

With that said, this is a very serious story.

And with that said, the NY Daily News is FAR from considered a reliable media source by many people.

With that said, I'm glad you posted it.

mishler3

February 13th, 2016 at 9:55 PM ^

If true, the Manning clan (Archie and Peyton) and Phil Fulmer concocted a scenario that isn't plausible. They denigrated a true professional's career. And him taking $ from that douche Papa John explains a lot.

FauxMo

February 15th, 2016 at 2:25 PM ^

While I have no love for Stephen A. Smith and Skip Bayless (like, none at all), I watched First Take today. Both were pretty brutal on Peyton. Not in an over the top way, but both claimed to have known nothing beyond the version Peyton gave that this was "childish hijinks gone wrong". Both also raised the comparisons between the character assassination retaliation approach Peyton's seems to have used in the earlier case with what he is doing in the Al Jazeera story case. Bare minimum, I think Peyton's reputation has taken a big hit over this, and we may see him fade from the public eye pretty quickly now...