OT-Peyton Manning...might NOT be a good dude.
I had heard rumors about this incident before (including on this board) but never anything in a legitimate news outlet until I saw this article in the NY Daily News this morning.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/king-peyton-manning-squeaky-cl…
Obviosuly both sides have their own version of events but this is not a good look for Peyton or the Manning family and some of it is pretty disturbing.
I've never been a big fan of Manning because I think he's a phony who smiles for the camera and is probably not the great guy everyone makes him out to be in his off-camera life but this is worse than I thought.
February 13th, 2016 at 2:04 PM ^
Left at the receptacle of Naughright 5 years later? Is that a college indiscretion?
How about throwing a fellow teammate under the bus, and trashing the reputation of a female trainer, later ruining her career? Is that considered a college indiscretion?
To me, the original event might be cahalked us as asinine. It's what he did afterwards that is the real story.
February 13th, 2016 at 3:47 PM ^
I agree he acted poorly, but again, this is an article culled from one half of the story, a telling that a court of law didn't find overly persuasive. We don't know who left the envelope; it could have been a Manning, or it could have been a UT fan who hated her for staining the Manning "name", or some other party. Manning writing about her in the book (which either is called "Manning" or is out of print/not on amazon) was clearly a PR ploy, but if we are going to take this article's statement at face value, you have to accept that Manning's portrayal might also be correct. I have my doubts, but who knows. And as for her career issues, I'm guessing that Manning did bad-mouth her along the way, but there may be more to it than we are led to believe. I honestly don't know; my point is that King is trying to push a narrative as much as this woman did in her filing.
I'm not victim blaming or in any way condoning Manning and his family, and I think Manning was an absolute asshole back in college. I learned a long time ago to not deify any athlete, so I don't expect guys like Manning to be particularly inspiring. But I also have a sense that people can change over time, and so I can only get so outraged about something that happened decades ago.
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I think SOMETHING probably took place with this but the article is HORRIFICLY written and the author clearly doesn't understand how legal documents work.
I also find it interesting that the accuser managed to sue Donna Karan based on another similar incident.
February 13th, 2016 at 2:31 PM ^
Because I know how to waste time really well, I read the entire 74 page document. Manning is a piece of human excrement for what he did to that woman. No amount of letters to the Carr family or ribbon cutting ceremonies will change that fact. Imagine working so hard your entire life to overcome barriers to pursue a career you love only for it to come crashing down by one vindictive, but powerful asshole.
February 13th, 2016 at 4:42 PM ^
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February 13th, 2016 at 5:18 PM ^
I think despite it being framed in the plaintiff's view, there are enough objective components in the document that cannot be denied. Additionally, his actions cannot be denied (as far as him writing about her in his book, for example), and his trashing of her character despite numerous accounts of that being false. That's pretty damning even though it's one version of the case. The effect it has had on her life also speaks for itself. Even we are being completely unsympathetic to her during those events, if she did "ask for it," did it deserve everything after that? That in itself almost completely justifies characterizing him as a POS.
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I'll be honest I don't know how court documents work, so forgive my lack of knowledge. I just think you have to deny a lot of official statements and other written statements from a lot of people involved in her life and who were directly involved with UT during that time (including an eye-witness to the initial event) in order to see that the Mannings were not culpable in destroying an innocent person's career. He just gets to carry on as if nothing happened, who benefits financially and otherwise from a squeaky clean image, and she doesn't get that luxury.
February 13th, 2016 at 2:35 PM ^
As a former journalist and retired attorney, its important that the story of Manning's illegal conduct not die. The NY Daily News piece is not the first time the story has been resurrected, only to die and fall out of public consciousness. I
n the 90's I was a university attorney and had to deal with all sorts of sexual harassment claims. There is more than just smoke here, and the sooner the mass media finally give this story the coverage it deserves, the better.
Pete Rose is being justifiably kept out of the Baseball Hall of Fame because of his gambling activities. Manning should also be kept out of the Football Hall of Fame for his sexual misconduct and the ensuing cover-up.
Here are a few examples of past stories on Manning's illegal conduct, several of which did not disclose all of the damaging facts:
1997 Augusta Chronicle--http://chronicle.augusta.com/stories/1997/08/20/oth_213271.shtml#.Vr-Av8eQLWY
2014 Inquisitr.com--
http://www.inquisitr.com/1486872/peyton-manning-sex-scandal-largely-forgotten-even-with-a-witness/
2014 TheBigLead.com--
http://thebiglead.com/2014/09/18/peyton-manning-1996-tennessee-lawsuit-trainer-bare-butt-mooning/
February 13th, 2016 at 2:38 PM ^
And Archie is mentally underdeveloped. Speak much?
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ASShole did not commit to Michigan.
February 13th, 2016 at 2:54 PM ^
and instead read about Peyton Manning pulling a dumb frat boy stunt on a femaler staffer he didn't like. What he did was sexist and idiotic and obviously designed to humiliate the woman but eh it's not exactly what the term 'sexual assault' would imply as far as most people are concerned.
Doesn't really tell me anything other than that Peyton Manning is/was a dumb jock and is also incredibly obsessed with his legacy. Plenty of dumb jocks out there doing dumb shit including that writer's hero, Cam Newton.
February 13th, 2016 at 3:33 PM ^
Had he just admitted to it to begin with, none of this would've been an issue. Instead he decided to wage war against this woman for years after she had the audacity to report his transgressions. Fuck him.
February 13th, 2016 at 3:35 PM ^
If you don't think most people consider sexual assault to include putting your junk in a girl's face, I'd like to know what color the sky is in your world.
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Good old all American, squeaky clean, Tom Brady, has ghosts in his closet too.
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February 13th, 2016 at 3:36 PM ^
do you and others like you bother to make points like this. Who is talking about Tom Brady? What does he have to do with anything? Peyton Manning, a deplorable piece of shit who has been enabled by even more deplorable pieces of shit his entire career, forced his junk into a university employees face and then plotted ways to try and deflect blame while simultaneously ruining her career.
The evidence is very, very damning.
That's all there is to it.
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February 13th, 2016 at 3:41 PM ^
So you've never had a woman rub her reproductive parts on you in a work environment before? Happens all the time, and it's not a story 20 years later.
February 13th, 2016 at 4:33 PM ^
I'm just catching up on this now and clicked over to ESPN to see what their coverage is... and there's no mention of it whatsoever. The only Peyton story is about his decision to come back or retire.
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February 13th, 2016 at 5:34 PM ^
No matter how shitty someone's actions were, I believe we are all potentially redemable. This story happened a long time ago and it doesn't neccesarily speak to the type of person he became.
With that said, this is a very serious story.
And with that said, the NY Daily News is FAR from considered a reliable media source by many people.
With that said, I'm glad you posted it.
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February 13th, 2016 at 6:41 PM ^
to the current investigation of possible HGH use by Manning and the attempt to discredit accusers.
http://www.si.com/nfl/2016/02/13/peyton-manning-tennessee-sexual-assaul…
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February 13th, 2016 at 9:11 PM ^
The guy couldn't hide his disappointment when we asked him how it went. Said Peyton was one of the biggest assholes he's ever met in his life, scumbag.
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This thread deserves a BUMP
February 15th, 2016 at 2:25 PM ^
While I have no love for Stephen A. Smith and Skip Bayless (like, none at all), I watched First Take today. Both were pretty brutal on Peyton. Not in an over the top way, but both claimed to have known nothing beyond the version Peyton gave that this was "childish hijinks gone wrong". Both also raised the comparisons between the character assassination retaliation approach Peyton's seems to have used in the earlier case with what he is doing in the Al Jazeera story case. Bare minimum, I think Peyton's reputation has taken a big hit over this, and we may see him fade from the public eye pretty quickly now...