OT: NBA Trades (McCollum, Sabonis, Haliburton on the move)
A couple mid-level NBA trades going on today in the leadup to the NBA trade deadline.
First up, CJ McCollum to the Pelicans.
Next, Sabonis and others to Kings for Haliburton and Hield
Hopefully this is just the start of an eventful NBA Trade Deadline.
February 8th, 2022 at 2:04 PM ^
What?
There's OT, and then there's posts like this.
February 8th, 2022 at 2:07 PM ^
Should I even know who these people are?
February 8th, 2022 at 2:09 PM ^
The post was clearly labeled as to what it is, yet you still felt the need to make a snide comment. Be better than that.
There are a few of us here who love the NBA
February 8th, 2022 at 2:58 PM ^
More than a few DB.
But here the cool kids shit on the boring NBA while lavishing praise on thrill-a-minute sport of soccer.
You know, exactly like the rest of America.
February 8th, 2022 at 3:10 PM ^
FWIW, the soccer threads can suck it, too
February 8th, 2022 at 4:07 PM ^
I was just about to say that the same people that hate on the NBA, also hate on the soccer. Looks like you proved my point.
February 9th, 2022 at 1:58 AM ^
I know it's crazy, but I like the NBA and soccer....and I'll get in on an F1 or a rugby post too if someone wants to throw that out there. I mean, I'm watching Snowboard Cross right now after some curling, fergodsakes. Let's get crazy with these non-football sports. Aren't these posts literally what OT is for ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
February 8th, 2022 at 3:22 PM ^
I concur.
Just now hearing about the Haliburton trade...Wow.
February 8th, 2022 at 4:03 PM ^
I am hopeful maybe the Pistons could package Killian Hayes and whatever else to peel Halliburton away. Now, no chance.
February 8th, 2022 at 11:35 PM ^
Unless it was with Jeremi Grant (who might be able to get something better?), looks like the Kings wanted a player not a project - so don't see any world where Hayes would have gotten us Halliburton.
One can dream though, I would totally have made that trade.
February 8th, 2022 at 6:11 PM ^
Schlumberger is next.
February 8th, 2022 at 3:12 PM ^
Stop pissing in people's Cheerios. The OP followed all rules and successfully embedded tweets, unlike most posters on this board. If you don't like the content, don't read it. It's really quite simple.
February 8th, 2022 at 3:38 PM ^
You know the popular weekly adult beverage threads? I don't drink myself and thus don't really have anything to contribute to the conversation, so I do this crazy thing where I leave the thread alone and don't make a flouncy show of it.
You could, you know.... try that out
February 8th, 2022 at 4:04 PM ^
Yup. I have been sufficiently chastised.
February 8th, 2022 at 2:13 PM ^
Just waiting on the Simmons-Harden Woj-bomb.
Hopefully the Pistons can get something for Grant too.
February 8th, 2022 at 2:19 PM ^
Basketball wise I can see Harden for Simmons, but still dont get why the Nets do this.
Yes, you have Simmons being an all world defender, and enough shooting to offset his issues. BUT, you also gave a rival team a great player instead of a malcontent whom it seems is cool sitting out the whole season.
February 8th, 2022 at 2:27 PM ^
I partially agree. Harden for Simmons makes little sense for either team. Assuming Kyrie decides to make himself available for home games, or NYC changes its rules, I think Simmons + healthy KD + 100% available Kyrie = Eastern Conference Champs. In this scenario, Nets >>> Sixers. But there's a lot of "ifs." I think the Sixers are being foolish if they're putting all of their eggs in the Harden basket. Based on it being 2022, not 2016, I'd target Beal over Harden.
February 8th, 2022 at 2:39 PM ^
I can understand Sixers doing anything to make it work right now. Embiid isn't that old, but how many more elite seasons can you expect out of those knees for a big guy.
Didn't know Beal was an option, but if he is, I think you're right.
February 8th, 2022 at 2:55 PM ^
Beal's game and his age make a potential partnership with Embiid enticing. That duo could win a championship and potentially several championships if they're surrounded by the right pieces.
Technically, neither Harden nor Beal are "available," but that shouldn't stop the Sixers from targeting either one of them considering they both could be free agents this offseason.
February 8th, 2022 at 4:58 PM ^
Well it was just announced that Beal is out for the year. Wrist Surgery.
February 8th, 2022 at 2:31 PM ^
All the Harden for Simmons speculation as I understand is based on the scenario where Harden tells the Nets he wants out and will not be opting in to his player option.
February 8th, 2022 at 3:40 PM ^
Yeah that makes no sense to me other than Morey posturing thru Woj leaks that he wants to rekindle Moreyball in Philly with Harden.
February 8th, 2022 at 2:47 PM ^
It would sure be great to turn Grant in to a first round pick or a nice young player. I'd love to get Patrick William's and a pick from the Bulls but doesn't seem the Bulls are interested in that.
February 8th, 2022 at 3:26 PM ^
Grant would be a great get for a team in need of a third option scorer and he still has another affordable year on his contract so there is that.
My best guess is will come down to a deadline deal to see if anyone bites.
February 8th, 2022 at 3:59 PM ^
I wonder if the fact that Grant has wanted a guarantee to be a go to scoring option plus a contract extension has really slowed teams rolls in regard to trying to acquire him.
Im still hoping the Pistons end up with Patrick Williams after all is said and done.
February 8th, 2022 at 2:13 PM ^
To bring it back to Michigan, the Pacers traded Caris to the Cavs for Ricky Rubio and picks. Cavs need ball handling, so Caris will probably have a big role on a playoff team.
February 8th, 2022 at 2:18 PM ^
Thank you. I was expecting something like this in the OP. Something relevant to Michigan or the state of Michigan; NBA posts are almost always Pistons-flavored if they don't involve former Michigan players.
February 8th, 2022 at 2:29 PM ^
LOL this is how you're going to go here? Bursley's bringing up a 3 day old trade involving a Michigan player is ALL you needed to allow this thread to pass through the "Monocle Smile" seal of OT validity? Basically you want your off-topic threads to be on-topic?
My thoughts? Keep posting! This board needs more comedians (unintentional or not)!
February 8th, 2022 at 2:19 PM ^
Yes we know. He’s a Ca.
February 8th, 2022 at 3:01 PM ^
The funny thing is Rubio is very well liked by the Cavs and the feeling is allegedly mutual.
So it is entirely probable Rubio will re-sign with Cavs for next year (he has an expiring contract so they are allowed to do that).
February 8th, 2022 at 2:20 PM ^
I'm shocked the Kings were willing to move Haliburton for a package headlined by Sabonis. Haliburton's ceiling is very high. I think he can become a perennial All-Star, and soon. Sabonis is a fringe all-star 4/5 'tweener, and I like his game, but he's unlikely ever going to be central piece on a championship team.
It's confusing. It was reported that the Kings wouldn't trade Haliburton as part of a Ben Simmons deal. But now they're willing to include him for Sabonis? I'd take Simmons, even with all his flaws (shooting and mental) over Sabonis any day.
February 8th, 2022 at 2:27 PM ^
Agreed, chalk it up to the chain smoking Divac. The Kings have to be the worst run organization in the NBA.
February 8th, 2022 at 2:31 PM ^
Vivek wants the credit!
February 8th, 2022 at 2:39 PM ^
Choosing Fox over Haliburton is a fireable decision as far as I am concerned. Fox is an all stat no substance fringe top 50 player on a terrible contract and now your locked in to him and Sabonis as max players who aren't good enough to ever make it out of the first round in the West as your 2 best players.
February 8th, 2022 at 5:13 PM ^
I guess part of the question then comes down to, do you think they could have gotten the same deal by swapping in Fox for Haliburton to the package?
I don't disagree with your overall premise about Haliburton over Fox, but they play the same basic "usage playmaker" position and there was never enough ball for both of them. One of them had to go.
If they can get the best set of talent for Haliburton, maybe Fox can turn it around? He's super athletic. He's not a complete waste. Maybe Darius Garland isn't the PERFECT example... but he's a guy who took a few years to really turn it around. (Granted this is pretty optimistic for Fox and it's been more than a few years now.)
Personally, not a Kings fan but I'll be curious to see how this team does. I like Holiday a lot. Sabonis is a fun player when healthy. The Kings are young.
Honestly, the whole mystery of everything to me is what Indiana is doing. A complete tear down?
February 8th, 2022 at 7:55 PM ^
Whenever I lament that Seattle didn't get the Kings to relocate, this brightens my spririts.
February 8th, 2022 at 2:21 PM ^
Trading Haliburton seems like a crazy move on the Kings part. He has looked like one of their best young pieces.
February 8th, 2022 at 2:42 PM ^
Tristan Thompson is what on his 4th team in 4 years?
February 8th, 2022 at 2:47 PM ^
And yet just his second Kardashian.
Allegedly.
February 8th, 2022 at 2:53 PM ^
Well that should be done now. I doubt any of the Kardashians would ever be caught dead in Indiana.
February 8th, 2022 at 3:52 PM ^
(The entire state of Indiana breathes a sigh of relief)
February 8th, 2022 at 3:43 PM ^
If any fourth-banana power forwards on championship contenders are on MGoBlog reading this thread, I would advise that you heed history and refrain from schtupping Khloe Kardashian.
February 8th, 2022 at 5:14 PM ^
Thompson was one of the guys who actively worked to run John B out Cleveland. His talents were FAR too advanced to be coached by some old college guy.
I'm happy to see Tristan Thompson continue to fail everywhere he's been minus two seasons when he played with Lebron.
February 8th, 2022 at 3:06 PM ^
I have no idea what Sacramento is trying to do here. Like, Sabonis is a good player but that's a lot to give up for him.
Also, poor damn Dame is going to be dust in 2 years when the Blazers may actually be competitive again.
February 8th, 2022 at 3:33 PM ^
Sabonis? Is he related to Arvydas Sabonis?
February 8th, 2022 at 3:52 PM ^
Yes. His son.
February 8th, 2022 at 3:34 PM ^
As a Pistons fan, I'm torn on Grant.
On one hand, he can get you a LOT of equity for the future. He's a very talented, still pretty young player that can be a great #2 or #3 option on championship-level teams when he's not asked to be the primary ball handler or have the offense run through him. I guarantee a lot of the top-flight teams are putting calls into Detroit to see what it would take to grab him.
On the other hand, with all those positive things I've said about him: why not keep him here? He's a great player that you can keep, he seems to enjoy playing here (hasn't been very public about wanting to leave), good team guy, etc. I would not be mad at all if he stuck around.
The Pistons are doing it the right way. Cade is looking great, and they will be adding another top 3 pick to pair him with. You could have a top 3 with Cunningham, Grant, and 2022 draft.
February 8th, 2022 at 4:31 PM ^
If the Pistons can take Holmgren, would we need Grant anymore? I like Banchero a lot, but with Hayes, Bey, and Cade, there are more minutes for a young big than a young guard. Question is who Pistons management likes better to pair with Cade, Banchero or Holmgren
February 8th, 2022 at 4:51 PM ^
Something about Holmgren scares me, and I can't quite pinpoint it. I get the Dirk comparisons, but Dirk was a STRONG dude. Holmgren is an absolute string bean- he's gotta put on like 40 lbs. I really like Banchero as well.
I think Killian is just not going to be a great guard, unfortunately. It's not that he's a bad shooter. He's an awful shooter. Teams are literally just standing off the three point line and watching him take horrible shots.
February 8th, 2022 at 5:15 PM ^
A stiff wind scares Chet Holmgren.
:)