OT: congrats to coach Kaliencki, MI hockey state championship

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CC won (again) proud alum and way to go on representing Michigan and CC

Gucci Mane

March 17th, 2016 at 3:02 AM ^

Of course CC won. They have talent from all over metro detroit. What schools such as Brighton have done in the past decade is far more impressive. 

kevin holt

March 17th, 2016 at 9:30 AM ^

Should be? I went to public school, so I'm not biased here: I think people sometimes just choose to attend a religious/private school and it doesn't encompass a particular area. That said, sometimes feels like private schools should have separate playoffs if they want to actually recruit.

Bigfoot

March 17th, 2016 at 3:34 AM ^

I played HS hockey at Eden Prairie before everyone in Minnesota started going to the USHL.  If you are a hockey player at CC and have given up opportunites to play elsewhere, you are only cheating yourself.  Congrats on that state championship.  Good luck against EP/ other legit teams--you will get blown out.

megaswami

March 17th, 2016 at 6:15 AM ^

I know the Trenton staff quite well. They do not recruit, although the name recruits itself at times. Trenton HS has limited enrollment, kids have to apply for those spots by the end of May. Elementary grades are different, but Trenton only accepts incoming 9th grade transfers. You can not transfer, otherwise, unless it's a physical move into the city. They only have 975. Two handfuls of kids play AAA or JUniors instead of playing for school. Rich tradition definitely, town loves it's sports.



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brendandavis22

March 17th, 2016 at 8:01 AM ^

Does anyone state split their teams by public vs. private? I always thought michigan should, especially for football. My thought was private A (for large private schools) and private B (for the smaller ones). Then a Public 1-4. 6 divisions total (8 is too many in my opinion). I guess sports like hockey would be different because of the smaller number of schools that field teams but have a similar type set up.

Mattinboots

March 17th, 2016 at 8:51 AM ^

Massachusetts, which has very strong hockey, does to a point. There is a Catholic Conference that has about 8 schools (Arlington Catholic, Catholic Memorial, etc) that participate in the regular state tournament. There are other very expensive private schools that have really elite teams (but also some really awful ones) that don't participate and have their own tournaments.



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Yo_Blue

March 17th, 2016 at 8:12 AM ^

Year Champion (Coach) Runner-Up Score
2016 Detroit Catholic Central Brighton 3-0
2015 Detroit Catholic Central Grandville 5-2
2014  Detroit Catholic Central Brighton 5-1
2013  Brighton Detroit Catholic Central  2-1
2012 Brighton Grosse Pointe North 4-3
2011 Novi Orchard Lake St. Mary's 4-0
2010 Detroit Catholic Central Howell 6-1
2009 Detroit Catholic Central Howell 7-0
2008 Orchard Lake St. Mary's  / Marquette  *   1-1 (8 OT)
2007 Orchard Lake St. Mary's Marquette 4-2
2006 Brighton (Paul Moggach) Dearborn Unified 6-2
2005 Detroit Catholic Central East Kentwood 4-0
2004 Marquette (Mike L'Huillier) Detroit Catholic Central 3-2
2003 Detroit Catholic Central Clarkston 4-0
2002 Detroit Catholic Central Marquette 5-1
2001 Detroit Catholic Central Port Huron Northern 3-2
2000 Detroit Catholic Central Alpena 5-2

 

BuckNekked

March 17th, 2016 at 11:43 AM ^

I played at Brighton in the 70s and in the LCHA before that. Brighton wasnt a power at that time but Hartland was competitive with the elite. Nice to see the Livingston county schools with 7 appearances and three titles since 2006 with Brighton in the title game in 4 out of the last five years. And Novi adds an eighth appearance and fourth title from the old KVC.

Njia

March 17th, 2016 at 8:39 AM ^

My son attends CC and a couple of his classmates are on the team this year (he's a sophomore).

One awesome factoid that demonstrates the unmistakeable differences between CC and a public high school school: beer on tap at the Dad's Club meetings in the school cafeteria.

814 East U

March 17th, 2016 at 8:52 AM ^

Does CC recruit? Sure. But other than telling kids come here you'll have a great opportunity to win in sports, get a solid education, and be a part of a great high school tradition what do they do? 7th and 8th graders are not getting paid.

Hab

March 17th, 2016 at 9:05 AM ^

So, I was at the championship game this year when CC beat Brighton 3-0.  I'm not griping, not playing a victim, or railing against the system.  I'm a fan of the saying, to be the best, you have to beat the best.  That said, the differences between the squads was most evident in what I believe was CC's second goal.  CC took advantage of a Brighton line change that resulted in a 2-1 with a backchecker coming off the bench across the ice.  The backchecker's angle was slightly off, but enough into the body of the CC forward coming over the blue line that, if their sizes weren't so massively different, it would have taken the CC forward off the puck.  Instead, the CC player absorbed and muscled through and put the puck top right corner.  It was a great goal.  Best of the night in fact.

Honestly, this is just high school sports in general.  Kids grow to different sizes at different rates.  Both teams played well, and Brighton held firm throughout the first and midway through the second.  Brighton had a few chances, but CC carried the pressure and was rewarded for it.

As a complete aside, because it has been forever since I've attended a high school sporting event, I was completely caught offguard by the countdown to 4:20 in the third period?  I have never experienced that before, ever.  When did that start?

jg2112

March 17th, 2016 at 10:23 AM ^

What's the standard of play in Michigan high school hockey?

I would be very interested to see some sort of Tournament of Champions where the state champs from Wisconsin, Massachusetts, Michigan and Minnesota all get together and play a round-robin tournament.

DOBlue48

March 17th, 2016 at 10:35 AM ^

That would be quite fun.  Hard to say for sure but I suspect the best teams in MI would show very well.  I know there are some prep schools out east that are a step up from even our best teams and then the Shattuck-St Mary's of the world, but we have some good hockey here.  If we did not have so many strong AAA teams in the area, our high schools would be even better, although that talent would be spread all over the place.

Jammatime

March 17th, 2016 at 8:34 PM ^

As someone who played High School in Wisconsin and AAA in Minnesota the talent gap between the two is stupid. Wisconsin's historical power is Superior (town name, not a statement of fact). They play in one of the single A Minnesota conferences with the smaller Duluth schools, finish about .500 and then run train on the rest of Wisconsin on their way to state.
The crazy thing about Minnesota is that while you do get some of the private schools (Benild St. Margaret's, St. Thomas Academy, Hill-Murray, Breck) that perform very well every year. The public schools have such storied traditions that kids want to play for them more than they want to play for the private schools.
In the words of one of the local sports writers, "The Iron Rangers hate the city schools, the city schools hate the private schools, and everyone hates Edina"



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DOBlue48

March 17th, 2016 at 10:28 AM ^

Congrats to Hancock (D3) and Romeo (D2) state champions.  A couple of fine hockey teams that do not have the benefit of bringing in talent from all over hell.  Will they win something like 8 out of the next 10 state championships?  Hell no.  Public schools are reliant on the talent that lives in their district.  There are a couple of exceptions (Trenton, Brighton to a lesser extent) but you will not likely ever see a public school dominate like some private schools do.

The playing field is absolutely not level.  Private schools should have their own playoffs regardless of sport.  Consider how many more public schools there are than private schools and then try to digest the fact that the last time there was not, at least, one private school state hockey champion (3 divisions starting in 2000, 2 divisions prior to that) was 1998.  Also, since 2000 a private school has won 13 state titles in D3 and 12 in D1.

Admittedly, I am jaded.  My son played on a team that fell short in the semifinals against an extremely talented Grand Rapids CC team this year.  Had we won it would have been the first all public school final in D3 since 1999.  Too long in my opinion.

25dodgebros

March 17th, 2016 at 10:41 AM ^

Of course they recruit.  I have a friend whose son could go there only if the football coach wanted him.  Another friend's son was recruited for the hockey team despite the fact they live 40 miles away from the school.  Imagine that drive every day!  Trenton doesn't recruit but they run travel teams for younger kids to play on before high school so that they are coached in the Trenton system from elementary school age.  

Firch

March 17th, 2016 at 11:24 AM ^

I played for SCS and my final year we played an Orchard Lake St. Mary's team that had an all Polish line that moved here the year prior just to play for OLSM. But I will say that SCS recruited that season as well because 5 out of 7 seniors were all recruited just for that final year. 


I'm sure it happens in Minnesota too

AJMaize

March 18th, 2016 at 1:07 AM ^

Until the MHSAA makes some sort of deal with the AAA teams and (fake) junior teams like Minnesota has, Michigan high school hockey will come nowhere near the talent level of Minnesota or some of the East Coast states. The travel/AAA teams in Minnesota run their seasons the entire year except for the 4 months the high school season is in session and it allows the kids to keep playing hockey at a competitive level and also allows them to play for their schools.



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AJMaize

March 18th, 2016 at 1:13 AM ^

I recently played for the hockey team at Grand Blanc (recently named largest school in Michigan) and before this year where they hit rock bottom, we had been pretty good/average every year with some playoff runs mixed in, and it was so frustrating because if all the kids who played hockey at GB actually played for the school instead of their travel/AAA/junior teams, GB would be in contention for a state championship every year. If you have a good coach who can pitch the program to not only the kids, but mainly the parents who believe their kid is going to be in the NHL in 3 years, the school will excel. If you don't, the program will suffer.



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