Moderator Action Sticky 2018

Submitted by Seth on April 26th, 2018 at 7:17 AM

New offseason, new moderator sticky.

READ THIS FIRST:

http://mgoblog.com/mgoboard/mgoboard-faq

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What this thread is for: It's an ad-hoc way of tracking what threads and comments get removed. Mods that remove a thread should post the title here with a brief reason as to why the thread is gone.

Don't comment in this thread unless you have to: if you leave an irrelevant comment in this thread it will be deleted (see: "cumbrously long").

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Things we moderate a lot:

  1. Politics. Don’t you get enough of this everywhere else?
  2. Noise/snowflakes. We ask our moderators to try really hard not to censor ideas but some ideas are so tiresome and retread and badly argued that they’re not worth keeping around. If you’re getting a substantial amount of downvotes we’ll look to see if you’re posting an unpopular opinion that you can support. If you can’t support it politely and rationally, or if you don’t acknowledge the holes in your argument, it’s noise.
  3. Useless content from other sites. Clickbait is annoying. 247, WTKA always get the benefit of the doubt.
  4. The Drew Sharp Memorial Don’t Feed the Professional Trolls Rule. Pete Finebaum has taken the place of the late Sharp. Valenti and Chatsports are the other two on the ban list. Bleacher Report is off the list but still under close observation.
  5. Bewbs and general misogyny/objectifying of women. We tried one year of this and our female readership shot up after being really low. This means it’s a good rule: however much you enjoy cutting loose with the guys, we have tens of thousands of readers it drives away.

Hall of Stickies Past:

The first, the second, the third. the fourth. The fifth. The sixth. The seventh.

Great Moments in Moderation:

Comments

Seth

April 26th, 2018 at 8:11 AM ^

Note: I'll be deleting comments a lot while this works its way off the main page. Please only post here if you're trying to get our moderators' attention. These get cumbrously long without all the offhand comments.

You can always find this in our menu under "MGoBoard"

GarMoe

June 8th, 2018 at 7:18 PM ^

Haven't been able to navigate thru the new site yet to get acclimated but wanted to pass on that when I go to to the site via mobile (Ipad), it takes me directly to the "welcome to MGB3.0" with no access to the board, etc.

ST3

April 26th, 2018 at 11:15 AM ^

What a year. Hotel, Mr.Yost, and Evenyoubrutus all got disciplined. I am trying my hardest not to be the fourth member of that Mount Rushmore. (I just keep repeating to myself, "no politics, no politics, no politics..."

Mineral King

April 26th, 2018 at 8:28 AM ^

This is a great idea. I lost a lot of points a couple weeks ago for an unknown reason. Could I be replenished or at least have an explanation of what I did wrong? Thanks.

#FreeMineralKing

Jon06

April 26th, 2018 at 8:42 AM ^

It was explained in the previous moderator action sticky.

Joined: 01/07/2018
MGoPoints: -99800
 
 
Sparty Troll
 

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Mocking umbig11, being an all-around douche to everyone, giving false “insider knowledge”. Couldn’t be more obvious.

http://mgoblog.com/users/mineral-king

Seth's picture
Joined: 10/14/2008
MGoPoints: 94489
 
 
Bolivia
 

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Not a sparty troll, a guy from other site's boards who's not yet used to this one.

-1000 points permanently

-100000 points (Bolivia) for a month.

 

 

http://mgoblog.com/mgoboard/moderator-action-sticky-2017

StellaBlue

April 26th, 2018 at 9:15 AM ^

But I think what you really mean is no obviously PARTISAN politics.

Almost everything has a poltical bent to it (including, for example, NCAA regulations) but they don't always follow traditional Blue team/Red team lines. The amount of military praise on this site is overtly political and obviously tolerated.  Many other examples.  In my experience here, Blue team/Red team politics is not tolerated (righty so). Majority political opinions that cross party lines are tolerated (your site, your call). Minority political opinions are generally not (again your site, your call, but it is discriminatory).

American Hotel

April 26th, 2018 at 1:03 PM ^

I also don't understand the difference between those accounts nuked with negative points who are still able to post, and those that are left alone points-wise and are still technically "active" but which can't create new content nor be seen by other posters.

From a moderator's perspective, what is the distinction here?

Seth

April 26th, 2018 at 1:49 PM ^

There are four main levels of moderation based on how likely we think the user is to rehabilitate:

Bolivia: We set the poster back an X number of points. Often it comes with a penalty box as well as a permanent points loss, so for example the guy above lost 1,000 points permanently and 1,000,000 points for a month. For a month he's got this chain around his neck like "you did a bad" and then the permanent point loss is meant to set him back so he can earn his way back into good graces. Bolivia is for users who did a bad thing but we think they'll get past it, or at least we want them to. You earn a measure of respect if your account's been through Bolivia and returned.

Cave: One button crashes all your comments and though you think you can still post, nobody is seeing them--you go to a server copy that we don't use except the old app still draws from it so the app won't hurt our bandwidth. Caving is when we don't know you that well and we want your account to be unusable. Start a new one if you think you can do better.

Cave and banish: We cave you, block you from posting, and put a marker on your IP address so we'll be notified if you start another account. This is almost 100% for spammers.

Delete: Mostly used for trolls or people who come here with hate messages. We want no record of your existence--your email account was probably bogus anyway but just in case we sign it up for all sorts of nice things.

Also the super mysterious moderator action:

Misery: This was where we banished you to a version of the site kept on our original, house-built server. This server is infected with every virus we could infect it with. You think you're still posting on MGoBlog but nobody sees your posts because you're really just on a copy of it. Unfortunately that server won't boot now so this isn't currently an option, but HUEL is going to build us an option that's even meaner.

ST3

April 26th, 2018 at 11:10 AM ^

Can you add the Blog's position regarding religious comments to your list? It is more nuanced than your "no politics" policy. It would be nice to have something explicitly stated to refer back to when threads start heading that way.
There was a lengthy discussion of this in the last sticky. It would be nice to capture the relevant parts of that.
Thanks.

Bando Calrissian

April 26th, 2018 at 11:59 AM ^

I mean, we have multiple posters who find every opportunity to slip in their religious teachings and such. Just because you're a pastor doesn't mean you need to talk about it on a sports blog. And I say that as a religious person myself--it has no place here.

Seth

April 26th, 2018 at 1:35 PM ^

Literally the most pageviews of any post on MGoBlog in 2018 was me talking about my religion. It would be a little hypocritical to ban it.

If you use the board to advertise your religion it falls under advertising. If it's a big part of who you are and how you see the world and you reference it to inform your perspective in your posts it's fine. Since I've been prosthletyzed at all my life for being of a minority religion I've got a pretty good idea of when intention slips into aggression and I think the mods have done a good job to date of policing that line.

BeatOSU52

April 26th, 2018 at 5:01 PM ^

Maybe I missed it but whatever happened to the other mod, Justingoblue.  Not only does he not mod anymore but I noticed from him profile that he's posted twice in the last year and the last time was about a half a year ago.

justingoblue

April 28th, 2018 at 4:32 PM ^

Had some big work/life changes that make it tough to devote the kind of time needed to do the modding, but I still try to keep up with the site. Get some helpful emails that keep me up to date like with your post here.

I’m back in the midwest after three years in Florida, joke’s on me that the move was to Ohio, though.

Mr. Elbel

April 26th, 2018 at 7:50 PM ^

Seconded. Let's do something about the sexual stuff since we said we'd do something about the sexual stuff. You have a long-time female reader complaining multiple times in that thread. Kinda going backwards.

Wolverheel

April 26th, 2018 at 9:20 PM ^

The notion that females can't handle sexual stuff is a bit degrading, no?

 

I mean I personally find it somewhat tasteless and it doesn't add anything valuable, but that's describing like 20% of all comments. I get that the site has an image to uphold, but I don't get why "no sexual stuff" would be just a "getting women to the site" thing.

Mr. Elbel

April 27th, 2018 at 4:21 PM ^

No one said the female readers can't handle anything. She was clearly exasperated and I felt obliged to apologize for her having to read stupid comments on a post she should have been able to enjoy without reading stupid comments. Its beyond tasteless. I don't think we should just say disrespectful and classless things and then tell women that they should just deal in the name of equality. Thank you, Seth, for just deleting it. Was worth getting rid of that garbage.

LSAClassOf2000

April 29th, 2018 at 9:03 AM ^

No, and the reason is a pretty simple, mechanical one - there's no way in the current format to know who is doing it with any certainty. Yeah, it probably is trolling, but speculating based on who downvoted a given thread....well, we wouldn't do anything based on anecdotal evidence.

Seth

May 1st, 2018 at 4:39 PM ^

in the list of people whose opinions matter, this tool is pretty low and certainly the lowest among active players.

Larry Appleton

May 15th, 2018 at 8:33 AM ^

Hi MGoBoard,

Could one of you fine souls viewing this on mobile please do me a big favor and copy and paste this message in a reply? Since I am apparently “caved,” I can only be seen on mobile. I’ve asked Seth a few times on here why I am caved and what I can do to get in-caved, but I don’t think he can see me. I’ve also emailed the editor, but that got ignores as well. Please help a dude out!

Section 1.8

May 16th, 2018 at 3:57 PM ^

What happened to my pair of posts in the "MSU Settles with Victims for $500 Million" thread?

What rule was broken?

This was post one:

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"How much for the plaintiff lawyers?  There was an awful lot of MGoConcern over how much the defense counsel for MSU could bill on an hourly rate.  It's going to be interesting to figure out the number of millions, and the number of lawyer-hours spent in the workup of the claimants' cases."U Settles With Victims for 500 Million MSU Settles With Victims f****or 500 Million

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This was post two:

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"I recognize several of the attorneys in the various victim phot-ops.  They would all, absoltely, have contingency-fee agreements with each and every claimant that they signed up, where the fee would be 33%, after expenses.

"But I think that those will all be mutally ignored, and that a number more like 10% might be agreed to in mediation.

"MSU might just pay that out separately, away from the $500m compensation fund.  But if it is only 10% of 500m, it is 50 million to be split among about 25 law firms each with 10-20 clients.  An average of $2m to each law firm.  For having done perhaps 1,000 hours of work.  That, my MGoFriends, is an hourly rate of $2,000 per hour.

"Knowing Engler from afar, my best guess is that he is a father of daughters, and remembers well the pain of any insult to them like Geoff Fieger's referring to them as being "born with corkscrew tails."  And that Engler wants justice for the girls who are involved.  And that privately, he hopes that Nassar and Stempel rot in hell.  But also, that Engler is an old warrior from the tort-reform days and he knows a lot better than most people what happens with contingency fees in personal injury litigation."

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Remember, these two posts were bearing in mind previously MGoSanctioned MGoBoard discussions of Engler, and politics, and the hourly rates of MSU's defense counsel.

 

OMG Shirtless

May 16th, 2018 at 4:33 PM ^

This thread is still up: http://mgoblog.com/mgoboard/msu-settles-victims-500-million 

and

This thread was deleted: http://mgoblog.com/mgoboard/500000000-nassars-victims 

Your comments must have been in the thread that was deleted.

EDIT: Your comments were in the thread that ended up getting deleted.

http://mgoblog.com/mgoboard/500000000-nassars-victims#comment-5048144

http://mgoblog.com/mgoboard/500000000-nassars-victims#comment-5048064