Medved win % & record

Submitted by RealElonMusk on March 18th, 2024 at 2:39 PM

Niko Medved has exactly the type of coaching record that indicates he is very likely an elite coach.

His win record at Colorado State after his first 2 years is 79.2% 

He took Furman from 9-21 to 23-11 

At Colorado he took a program that was 12-21 his first year to 24-10 this year.   

MeanJoe07

March 18th, 2024 at 2:46 PM ^

Are you seriously considering that as an absolute indication of coach quality? If coach A loses to coach B and coach B is bad then coach A is bad?   Forget the conference, caliber of players, resources, etc.  That paints the whole picture for you.  One game.  

meeashagin

March 18th, 2024 at 5:46 PM ^

Juwan at his very best was an excellent coach, elite recruiter but something happened...something changed. I kept waiting for us to show improvement, thats it...but we didn't. 

Let me say this when we hired Juwan I think his secret sauce was as an elite recruiter which he was but NIL took away Juwan's edge. Now, Juwan ability to build relationships was irrelevant because Michigan was not backing him up financially. It had to be emotionally deflating.

This is what it looked like from afar. Basically we need a coach that can develop whos okay with other schools poaching your best players like Dickinson. 

I use to never complain always backed every Michigan decision but this NIL thing has me shook.

 

 

BoFan

March 18th, 2024 at 8:55 PM ^

It was more likely the culture which, from reports, had favoritism and anger issues. The evidence is there.  If you are in that culture, and it’s coming from leadership, you’re going to be looking around silently shaking your head.

Culture issues have more of an impact the longer they exist.  Year one was zero impact and his sons weren’t there yet.  Year two would have only been a minor impact.  It’s hard to coach your kids. But that wasn’t the only problem.  These reoccurring anger issues were likely to pop up a heck of a lot more inside the program than we can see.

It doesn’t matter if it’s a team or business.  Bring in new leadership with issues like this to a successful business and it takes three years for the thing to start tanking.

Football had the opposite culture.  “No man is more important than the team.  No coach is more important than the team.”

rice4114

March 19th, 2024 at 12:27 PM ^

It surely cant if you dont let it. Football's success and our schools power + cash isnt a detriment to Baseball and its potential. Only if you Eeyore yourself out of it and give up. Ill fight this forever and its fine. Warde is where he is because the leaders and best school gives him outs. This is one of them. 700k what are we doing?

There was a time where Gonzaga basketball was MUCH MUCH more at a disadvantage at basketball but it took leadership. It took a fan base and alumni group that fought tooth and nail to get better. If you think UM shouldnt try as hard as Gonzaga did 20 years ago we will have to agree to disagree.

JonnyHintz

March 19th, 2024 at 4:58 PM ^

Okay but here’s the thing. Basketball is profitable. It makes sense for a school to invest heavily in a sport where the return is a larger profit. There’s a reason Gonzaga chose to invest in basketball and not baseball 
 

It took a fan base and alumni group

Yeah, we also do not have that when it comes to baseball. Once again, you’re making an apples to oranges comparison.

 

 Football's success and our schools power + cash isnt a detriment to Baseball and its potential
 

It’s not. Michigan’s geography, recruiting base and concerence are a detriment to baseball and its potential. Because of that, it doesn’t make sense for Michigan to spend a boatload of money there. 
 

 

DennisFranklinDaMan

March 18th, 2024 at 5:22 PM ^

Such bullshit. People scream at Warde for not making decisions and are outraged in advance at him retaining Howard for next season, then, when he fires Howard immediately after this season, they say, "well, yeah, that was inevitable."

Let's face it. Once a narrative sets in here, it's almost impossible to escape. When Warde hires Sherrone Moore or Brandon Naurato it's "well, yeah, but that was obvious." When he fires Howard, it's "well, yeah, but that was inevitable."

What exactly do you want him to do? Fire someone before it's obvious they should be fired, just to prove he's able to? Hire someone terrible for the job, just to demonstrate he's not only going to make the "obvious" hire? 

Damn, people here love to bitch.

42-27

March 18th, 2024 at 5:53 PM ^

Once you hate someone, then every single thing they do repulses you and fills you with rage.  Your bitch coworker could be innocently eating crackers but you see her and it's, "Look at this fucking bitch eating crackers all stupid-like.  What an idiot.  Non nom nom she eats crackers like a moron.  Fuck her!"

I think there are many in the fanbase who are similarly overcome with irrational hate towards Warde.  Anything he does they get mad about.  Racism and fat-shaming are totally ok as long as they're directing  it towards Warde because he's *evil.* 

I'm not a Warde fan, but it's insane the bullshit constantly spewed at him.  We get it already.

BoFan

March 18th, 2024 at 9:05 PM ^

The love hate thing is true.  Your GF or wife loves every little thing you do and vice versa. But then something triggers the cognitive dissonance in the opposite direction and the mind (the GF or BF) looks at every little thing (those same exact things) as support for why their partner is annoying.  Same with politics.  
 

Never heard of “Ask a Manager”

BroadneckBlue21

March 18th, 2024 at 9:22 PM ^

What? Either you aren't married, were recently married with a spouse who pretends to love everything, or your spouse pretends/ignores your bullshittery very well after years and years. Besides being wrong about how spouses don't turn a blind eye to one's faults--at least in a successful marriage--not everyone operates with such a relativistic mind to do a 180 when the wind blows. 

Been with my wife for two decades. I've always found certain things irritating about her, and her me. If you have to like everything about people to respect them, love them, or want them in charge of your athletic program, then you'll never find an AD you'll want to keep.

BoFan

March 19th, 2024 at 12:49 AM ^

You are clearly a judgmental person. Your anecdotal situation is not universal.  

What I described is common and well known psychologically.  Not just for relationships but politically and more.  

If two people in a relationship are self aware enough to be able to be above this then that is great.  That takes introspection and vulnerability.  If you have that great. 

But people make decisions and then look for evidence to support their decisions and ignore the evidence that refutes their decisions.  This happens in love, politics, and more.  Just because you don’t fall into that category doesn’t make your situation universal.  This has nothing to do with me personally. Don’t be a judgmental…

St Joe Blues

March 19th, 2024 at 8:16 AM ^

But people make decisions and then look for evidence to support their decisions and ignore the evidence that refutes their decisions.

Add in the echo chamber that this place had become recently and their decisions get artificially reinforced. There's only been token push back against the Warde haters because the rest of us know it's not possible to argue with the irrational.

Sonny Jim

March 18th, 2024 at 6:38 PM ^

I love to bitch!  That’s why I love mgoblog.  I can bitch and be entertained by other people’s VERY clever bitching.  As for Warde, I assume he only fired Juwan because it was the easiest thing to do.  8-24 has to have triggered some questions from the hierarchy above Warde.  That seems to be the key for Warde, whatever is easiest for Warde, not necessarily what’s best for U of M.