MBB Wish List for Next Year

Submitted by AC1997 on

Thought I would start a chain about what our wish list would be for the basketball team next year.  This year was a bigger roller coaster than I can remember for a long time.  I know everyone is concerned about recruiting and overall upside, but here is a start:

  • Wagner needs to put on 20 pounds of muscle and start to cut out some of those bonehead freshman mistakes that limited his minutes.  
  • Start to build the offense more around Rahk.  If anyone is going to play hero ball, it needs to be him, not Irvin.  I want Irvin to be the role player and spark he's best suited for, not the over-dribbling shot-chucker he is sometimes tempted to be.  
  • I'd like Xavier Simpson to come in right away and be good enough to deserve 20 minutes per game.  Walton can't play 36mpg next year and he needs to be able to play off the ball and return to that corner shooter role that he was so good at earlier in his career.  
  • I want to see the front-court start to sort itself out.  We will have a whopping SEVEN players that are exclusively front court players.  That's too many for a team that plays about 1.5 of them at any time.  Chances are that Teske and/or Davis will redshirt.  It is getting hard to justify two roster spots for PF like Wilson/Chatman that can't get off the bench.  I guess what I'm saying is that if any of these 7 players express an interest in transferring.....maybe you don't discourage them unless it is Wagner.
    • Then you figure out if Wilson or Chatman can improve enough to justify playing 10-15mpg against big teams.  
    • I think you also spend some time trying to figure out if Donnal/Wagner have any chance of playing the PF spot against big teams.  I doubt it, but worth considering.  
  • Robinson has a chance to be a real star if he broadens his game more.  He shot 45% despite slumping late in the year.  How does he generate more offense?  How do they get him open?  

Walton & Irvin are great role players, but not alpha dogs.  They hit their ceiling and actually regressed badly in the case of Irvin's shooting.  Someone needs to step up as the leader and personality of this team.  I see three candidates - Rahk, Robinson, or Wagner.  

rymgoblue11

March 19th, 2016 at 2:30 PM ^

What is it that you were watching where it "looked pretty good." Sorry man, Donnal isn't it. The 5 spot is a huge issue along with the stretch 4. 4 spot isn't extremely athletic and liability on the D end. Your ideal, even as inconsistent as he was, GR3. Neither the 4/5 spot right now is rolling hard and taking it to the rack hard. They're screening the perimeter and not much else.... And when they do they miss lay ups or get their shit rejected.

/rantwalltext



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club2230

March 19th, 2016 at 2:51 PM ^

He had a few great games, but let's just ignore those and assume that he is the sum of his worst games. He just finished his second year playing, so I don't see why we should be expecting him to be an All American. I also don't see why it is unreasonable to expect him to improve the next year to two. He can go for 20-10 so why cant we expect 12-8?

straight-gangs…

March 19th, 2016 at 2:08 PM ^

I wouldn't doubt if we see his minutes cut significantly. 3 years and you still see him essentialy take a play off and allow Tulsa to get a rebound near the end of the game off their own free throw miss and then his trademark mistakes you see in the ND game. I think he plays very little in the last 10min last night if it wasn't for Mo's foul trouble. It's clear that Beilien put the best option in for the last minute and it's no longer Donnal.

Richard75

March 19th, 2016 at 5:03 PM ^

On the contrary: Redshirts are totally just like any other year. Obviously, game experience isn't being gained, but the redshirt has no meaning until the player actually uses the 5th year. That happens less than you think.

If you look back, Morgan is the only Beilein recruit to do so in a Michigan uniform. Lots of things can come up along the way to prevent it from happening, as we've seen with Cronin, Horford, Bielfeldt and possibly now Albrecht. Donnal was reclassified after redshirting (although he could be reclassified again). I'm not sure I'd bet on Wilson playing out a 5th year, either.



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Muttley

March 19th, 2016 at 1:11 PM ^

for a total of 14 for 13 scholarship spots.  (Correct me if I'm wrong.)

http://www.scholarshipstats.com/ncaalimits.html

 

By Potential Eligibility

 

Rising Seniors
Walton
Irvin

Rising Juniors
Donnal
MAAR
Robinson
Doyle
Chatman
Dawkins


Rising Sophomores
Wilson (injury redshirt)
Wagner

Incoming Freshmen
Simpson
Teske
Davis
Watson

 

If Beilein knows someone is leaving, I have a hunch that it is Dawkins.  How did he not get that rebound last night?  That would be the play of someone who isn't into it because he knows he's outta here.  He certainly seems to have the athleticism.

NashvilleMaize…

March 19th, 2016 at 1:16 PM ^

My money is on one of the guys at the 4 and/or 5 that isn't Irvin or Wagner: Wilson, Chatman, Donnal, or Doyle with Doyle being the least likely in my mind. All have to be wanting playing time and with Teske and Davis coming in, I think one of them will seek PT elsewhere. Hate to see Dawkins go, especially with our (lack of proven) depth on the wings



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jpwarner

March 19th, 2016 at 1:17 PM ^

And this doesn't include Spike if he decides to come back (I don't think you can turn away a fifth year for Spike -- Beilein should have learned his lesson with Bielfeldt). 

I think there are very frank discussions to be had with Doyle, Chatman, and Wilson about the reality that there won't be much playing time for them.  If they want to look elsewhere they should. 

NashvilleMaize…

March 19th, 2016 at 3:31 PM ^

I agree a bit on the count of numbers at the PG position but I think Spike's leadership overrides the logjam, plus I think it's more of a logjam at the 4/5 positions and I don't see any leadership coming from Doyle/Donnal/Wilson/Chatman (Wagner has some leadership potential along with definite swagger). I would rather lose a redshirt for both Teske & Davis by having room for Spike then otherwise. Just my opinion though



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YoOoBoMoLloRoHo

March 19th, 2016 at 1:19 PM ^

Health - no guys lost for months and no starters hobbling; consistent, reliable rotation.

Competitiveness - guys grinding on defense, fighting for rebounds and playing with intensity all 40 minutes.

Defensive Big - Teske or Davis bringing some size and stoutness to the middle (not 3rd worst in the D1 paint defense like this year) even for 10-15 min per game.

Sizable 4/5 - Mo adding some bulk and cutting down the fouls.

Penetration by X - need Simpson to create off the dribble and bring the O to life so short droughts don't turn into 6-9 min droughts.

Inbounds Plays - actually prove competence with these sets and execution.

jpwarner

March 19th, 2016 at 1:31 PM ^

One other thing to add to the wish list: some changes to the coaching staff.  Beilein needs to look in the mirror and realize his shortcomings coaching the defensive end.  I'd like him to go out and find a defensive guru to replace Bacari.  There's got to be an assistant on one of the perennial defensive powerhouses like Virginia or Villanova or Uconn who we can offer a substantial raise.  

I wouldn't mind letting Sanderson go either.  At a certain point you need to be judged by results.  And although there have been some physical improvements through the years from guys like Jordan Morgan and Stauskas, we've also seen debilitating injuries each of the last three seasons.  McGary, Horford, Levert (2X), Spike, Walton.  Not to mention the back injury Irvin suffered that Beilein continues to blame for his poor performance.  It's a trend.

Wolvie3758

March 19th, 2016 at 1:32 PM ^

1. Zak Irvin to stop turning the ball over stop chucking up 3s and stop trying to play Hero-Ball and be more CONSISTENT

2. Derick Walton stop turning the ball over and driving into guys twice your size only to get blocked or turn the ball over and be more CONSISTENT

3.More MO WAGNER

4. Mark Donal to MAKE EASY LAYUPS AND DUNKS

5. Aubrey Dawkins to STOP TRYING TO DUNK and lay the ball in, Play Defense

5. Play DEFENSE DEFENSE DEFENSE DEFENSE DEFENSE DEFENSE

6. Duncan Robinson work harder to get open

7.Play with the Intensity you had during the first half of the ND game for BOTH HALFS of every siingle game from day one on

Thats enough for now...thankyou

 

 

 

 

 

MichiganMan14

March 19th, 2016 at 1:41 PM ^

People are delirious thinking he's going to be the leader or independent option. His game is completely dependant on someone getting him an open look. We need to stop with this notion that he is a potential "Alpha dog" because he has a hard time dribbling against tight defense. We missed on recruiting Alpha dogs for 3 straight years and don't have one in the program. Wagner is your starting center. Simpson will help a ton off of the bench. Donnal improved and can give you minutes. Doyle regressed miserably. Either Chatman or Wilson must get developed. No idea how neither of them hasn't become a staple I'm our rotation. Irvin is simply a Robin. Asking him to be Batman is bad bad bad. We need a top flight wing coming in but Beilein can't recruit those so hopefully Ibi is very underrated and can be another Caris. The team should be slightly better next year by default of maturity. Likely a 9 loss 8or9 seed type. This is probably the new ceiling for Beilein.

umchicago

March 19th, 2016 at 2:16 PM ^

but i think there is hope for robinson to improve his handle and ability to take it to the rim.  he definitely attacked more as the season progressed albeit with mixed results.

i also think one of the bigs has to go.  i would pick the guy who has played the fewest minutes.

hopefully teske can be a role player shot blocker on D next year and simpson provides some added point guard depth.  no more dakich.  his couple minutes last nite were even painful. redshirt davis.

if healthy, this team will go 12-6 in the BIG at a minimum.

 

WorldwideTJRob

March 19th, 2016 at 3:07 PM ^

I just don't see it...he is a classic set shooter. He needs an exceptional penetrating PG to play alongside to get him open looks. He is unable to shake the D with the ball or without it. Yesterday in the second half was the Duncan Robinson conundrum in a nut shell...he couldn't even get a shot up, while the man he was guarding put up 18 points and didn't miss. He has a role as a specialist on this team but can't play heavy minutes due to his lack of athleticism on both ends of the floor.



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IMB87

March 19th, 2016 at 10:34 PM ^

He did show some willingness to drive to the basket - hope he can develop that part of his game.  I don't recall Stauskas being great at driving to the hoop his freshman year and he went out, got stronger and became much better his sophomore year.  To a certain extent, Irvin made progress in that area as well.  So there is some precedent for seeing this type of progress.

vinchar

March 19th, 2016 at 4:30 PM ^

Irvin improved significantly from his freshman year to the end of his sophomore year. Right before this year's Big Ten tourney, Beilein disclosed that Irvin was shut down for three months before his back surgery last offseason and was thus unable to work on offseason skill development. I think he said he expects Irvin to be appreciably better next year. Given the trajectory of Irvin's first two years, that seems like a reasonable possibility if his offseason proceeds as planned.

sandmanD

March 19th, 2016 at 1:49 PM ^

1. Wagner and Robinson to gain strength and sharpen their defensive skills now that they have 1 year of Big Ten play under their belts.

2. Doyle and WIlson to transfer (maybe Dawkins too), pick up a tough and rugged grad transfer. Let's get some toughness back on the squad!

3. Health for our best players.

4. Increased leadership by MAAR and Irvin.

5. Beilein to leave Dakich on the bench and let Donnal shoot the outside shot and not auto-bench always.

NashvilleMaize…

March 19th, 2016 at 8:25 PM ^

I think Donnal is the guy most likely to go. His progression after 3 years in has not been good but Doyle could just a combination of sleep apnea and sophomore slump (the second part is generous, I know). He's still young. I think I would rather have Doyle's potential for another season or 2 and see what can happen. However, I wish them all the best.



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