MBB Recruiting - Jaylen Brown to visit later this week
Per Sam Webb:
Scout's #1 player in 2015, Marietta (Ga.) Wheeler SF Jaylen Brown is slated to visit #Michigan Thursday and Friday of this week
— Sam Webb (@SamWebb77) March 16, 2015
While I doubt we get him, the fact that he is still visiting after this abysmal season is definitely a good sign.
Yes, it's a huge long shot, but the fact that he still wants to check out Michigan is very promising. Get him on campus, and you never know.
Does anyone know if it's typical for a recruit to make a two day visit somewhere that they have marginal interest in?
He has family in the area. You could see this visit as a free family reunion if you wanted to be cynical and pessimistic.
Two things I've learned about recruiting through Mgoblog is that Michigan is every recruits dream school, and that every recruit has family in or around Ann Arbor.
Pure Michigan.
Da faq!
Can't. Stop. Watching
And academics are at the top of their list - thus Michigan.
Until not Michigan...
so true
Bringing him out to check out the big game against..... oh wait.
Take him to a football practice. Harbaugh will show him what Michigan athletics means.
HARBAUGH
I know this is just a joke about Harbaugh, but John Beilein knows just as much what Michigan athletics are about.
But only Harbaugh might kick him out of practice. That would be a great recruiting story!
when the coaches can give him more attention.
while I fully expect Brown to sign elsewhere, our facilities and track record with development under Coach B at least will make us competitive in the process. unfortunately, there aren't really moral victories with recruiting.
Yep. 2nd place doesnt mean a thing in recruiting and despite comments above, Brown visiting has zero impact on any other recruit visiting so it really doesn't signal squat or "say something".
As someone who runs a boutique recruiting consulting business..(for baseball) there is absolutely a bit of a "sweet spot" for where Michigan is in terms of a recruiting pitch.
1. The ability to FULLY focus on recruits.
2. The notion that this is a team that is very close, YET a window of need for impact players to come in and star early.
3. The same spotlight that any other Major Power-5 program gets with all of the normal "pros" for a Michigan recruit.
I constantly find that my most successful clients are those that find the program that can deliver all of the aspects a traditional power (i.e. Kentucky, UNC, Kansas) can deliver, but at a time in which that Major program has a glaring need. There is something to be said about starring on a good team vs. being a good player on a star team.
As others have stated, its a long shot, but getting him on, is a shot..
In the words of Dumb and Dumber..
"So you're saying theres a chance!?!?"
4. 100K in cash under the table
Oh wait thats kentucky, sorry
Why bother with the table? Don't they ask for your account number for direct deposit?
We missed the NIT just for you, Jaylen.
something to be said about taking a team from zero to final four and getting a majority of credit
Example 1A: Trey Burke
Hopefully he makes a strong connection with the current guys on the team, who seemed to really enjoy playing together at the end of the year and appear to really like eachother. That could be an inviting situation for a young superstar.
Longshot, but land Jaylen Brown and Michigan will be battling for a 1-seed all year in 2016.
he visited us once this season already correct? A second visit is a really good sign. Unitl Kentucky's bagman shows up anyways.
Think of how great it will be when the NCAA finally gets forced to stop telling players they can't take money. Then Michigan gets to play on a level field with dirty teams. Remember how much talent they were pulling into Ann Arbor when they decided to see what it was like in the 1990's? It would be like that again, but with John Beilein for a coach.
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career in my opinion, relative to what resources he has to work with. Let's not forget he never won a Big Ten title even given the talent he had on the roster a number of times.
True, I mean he only won a national title.
March 17th, 2015 at 10:58 AM ^
No, he hasn't visited. This is a make up from the scheduled visit he had to cancel.
It seems like he's already visited the other blue-chip programs going after him and doesn't look to have a strong preference or a leader at this point, as far as I can tell. Haven't followed closely so maybe others know more, but if we're getting some consideration and there is no presumed favorite (other than just an assumption he'll pick a UK or UNC based on name recognition, as opposed to a guy like Marshall in football who was assumed to be going to a specific school for a long time), then you have to figure we at least have a legit shot to make a great impression.
If he's seen what they have to offer and is still looking, that has to be a good sign and reason for at least mild optimism.
I don't see why any top, top recruit would go anywhere but kentucky (as long as calipari is there). it's an nba factory, and you're likely to be on a good college team.
I totally get your point here.. But its a numbers thing.. Obviously I am dumbing it down here way too much because there is 5 years (with an RS) of eligibility.. and also those years are never used for NBA caliber talent but.... in vacuum... If you are the 6th best player in the nation... why WOULD you go to Kentucky?
Are you really more likely, given whatever level of talent you have, to make it to the NBA from Kentucky? They're an NBA factory because they get such good players, not because they turn guys into good players.
And it's true they've been great the last two years, but they're going to suffer a mass exodus to the NBA this year. They'll surely reload with more five-stars, but there's no guarantee to be a top-10 team next year.
There's also the risk they don't experience that mass exodus. The team is so good this year because it has veteran guys who were assumed to be out the door but came back, not just the one and done parade they typically bring in. The Harrison's are sophomores with loads of experience. Cauley-Stein is a junior. A couple of the bench guys are sophomores and juniors.
And as these guys get further away from their high school hype, it seems less likely the NBA will spend a high pick on them. And more likely that new guys will come in and take what few minutes they are getting already. Are guys like the Harrisons, Poythress, and Dakari Johnson going to leave at this point to be 2nd round picks?
The examples you gave, WCS, Daraki and the Harrison's just make me wonder even more why so many top recruits go there. There is only so much opportunity to really showcase what you can do on such a loaded team. If you aren't a physical freak, like Julius Randle or Karl Towns, your reduced minutes can lead to a lack of opportunity and before you know it you are a SO or JR, losing playing time to younger guys and seeing your NBA potential fade.
Why take that risk and go to such a loaded team? Kansas seems to get 2ish of those super star guys every year instead of 5, they stay for a year, get plenty of opportunity to showcase their potential and are gone. I guess all of the guys who choose Kentucky assume they are to good to be the guy pushed to the side, but it just seems like an odd choice if so many of these guys go there because its an NBA factory.
This is really the first group that didn't all immediately jump en masse to the NBA. It will be interesting to see if it is just a one-time occurrence, or if it creates a logjam that Coach Calipari has to deal with differently going forward.
Could be kind of funny to see all the people who bitched about one and dones complaining that UK is graduating players instead of shipping them off to the pros quickly enough if/when they start winning with veteran teams.
I agree that it will be interesting to see what happens with Kentucky's roster over the next two years. Are guys going to start leaving early even with second round grades? Are we going to see more guys transfer after two years, either by their choosing or at some strong urging from Cal?
I don't look at a ton of mock draft stuff but which of these Kentucky players are projected to go in the first round? Are Booker or their PG (Ulis? or is that the Duke guy?) projected as first rounders? At some point there has to be a roster crunch and I wonder if the potential lack of development will ever catch up with them recruiting wise.
http://www.nbadraft.net/2015mock_draft
has 4 kentucky freshmen going in the first round, and gives the two upper classmen bigs (dakari johnson and poythress) 2nd round grades
I don't really know what "lack of development" you are referring to...
Not to nitpick, I see 3 Kentucky Freshman in the first round and WCS (a JR) as the 4th. My lack of development is a comment on how at this point, with the level of recruiting Kentucky is doing, anyone who doesn't go in the first round is a dissapointment.
The Harrison twins were the 3rd and 5th best players in the country coming out of high school, Darkari Johnson the 8th and Marcus Lee the 14th. Right now, only one of those guys is projected to get drafted, and that is Johnson in the second round. Yes Randle and Young were 1st rounders, and there is time yet for others, but Kentucky got 6 of the top 14 players, and so far only 2 first rounders out if it.
Not everyone is going to work out, that is the nature of college basketball, but if Kentucky is selling themselves on being an NBA factory last years class is not a great example for them so far. They are the class of college basketball and Cal is a recruiter on a whole different level. With that said, maybe I am just being a hater, maybe last years class was an abberation or maybe its the way the NBA draft works, but it seems like the longer guys stay at Kentucky, the less chance they have of going in the first round.
the system is basically: you have your shot freshman year, and if you don't prove yourself, then you will likely be buried in the roster by next year's incoming freshmen. In comparison, many (probably most) other schools value upper-classmen as starters and let the freshmen work their way in.
Guys can overcome it (like WCS) but I wonder if some point the system will eventually catch up to Kentucky and some guys decide against it due to their desire to be the focal point and not risk being buried if they don't excell year 1.
Of course, by that time Cal might have another national title or two, so not like he has any need to worry about that now.
how much any coach can really improve your game in only 1 season.
Wish this data was updated, it is pretty interesting.
http://blog.automatedinsights.com/post/102536861257/nba-dreams-heres-how-to-choose-the-right-college
They are clearly the top when it comes to landing the best players, but its not like they are the only game in town. You can pick any number of schools, play there for one year or more and be on a quality national championship contender and still be a high lottery pick. Kentucky is not the only school that produces NBA talent while being a good college team.
You wonder why any top recruit doesn't go there and I wonder why so many do. The potential cheating angle aside what really separates them from Duke, UNC, Kansas, Arizona or the other super elite?
In the last 9 years (Memphis and UK), Calipari's second worst season finished with a trip to the Sweet Sixteen. 7 trips to the regional final, four Final Fours, three title game appearances, and one title. This is year 10 and that trend doesn't look to be in any danger.
In the same time period, Coach K has 2 trips to the regional final (same as Michigan) and won one title. Arizona has made the regional final twice (Sean Miller made it a third time in that span at Xavier as well). Bill Self has made the regional final 4 times in that span with 2 title game appearances and one championship.
Maybe the gap doesn't appear great to some folks, but at this point Calipari's on-court success is greater than his peers at even other blue-blood programs.