Jaylen Brown possibly down to Cal/Michigan
Is sick a good thing in this context? What happens when you add "and deep" as a qualifier?? Is that even better than just sick, or worse??? SO MANY QUESTIONS!!!
Cal has the better weather. We have the better coach and better team.
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Jaylen Brown would be great for both Levert and Irvin. Levert was an incredible #2 option to Stauskas #1 in '14. Irvin as a #3 who won't be asked to be the 'main guy' will allow him to get open looks from 3, and easier defensive match-ups to drive to the basket.
Let's also add we have a top-tier pg in Walton, a deadly shooter in Dawkins, a senior leader in Spike (hopefully he's ready), an improved Doyle and Chatman hopefully. Don't forget DJ Wilson coming off injury, and Duncan Robinson coming off transfer. Oh yeah, that Moritz Wagner guy might be pretty good. Am I forgetting anyone? Oh yeah, MAAR, who was at times our best offensive player and defender during the second half of the year.
The potential of this team is unreal!
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Why would anyone deliberately choose to play for Cuonzo Martin over John Beilein? Is this even a choice? As a likely one and done, why does Cal or any elite acameic instituion make sense? Michigan at least makes a little more sense as JB is an elite offesnive coach with a track record of developing guys to go higher than expected in the draft, the school has elite facilities and a recent run of being an upper tier program. Has Brown mentioned why he's so high on Cal?
I think you'd have to be nuts to choose Cal Basketball over Michigan, but I think that's exactly what he's going to do.
Just to upvote.
I've lived in California for the past 18 years and consider myself more than just a casual college basketball fan. My impression of Cal basketball is that they were good when Jason Kidd was there, but that's basically it. Ben Braun had a nice little run, but they'll always be no better than third fiddle in the Pac-12 to UCLA and Arizona. A quick review of their wiki page reveals this tidbit:
"In Montgomery's second season, the Bears won their first conference title in 50 years."
Um, OKAY. So why would anyone want to play basketball at Cal? I get going to Cal for academics and other stuff, and if basketball is your ticket to that, OK, but if we're strictly talking about just playing basketball, it's baffling.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Golden_Bears_men%27s_basketball
I'd choose Michigan too, but we are a biased bunch. We have more basketball prestige, but we also aren't Kentucky. In the words of Mugatu: Cal is Sooo hot right now
April 21st, 2015 at 10:33 PM ^
Mike Montgomery went to the tourney for 10 straight years at Stanford, took them to their first Final Four in 50+ years, then made it back to the Elite Eight four years later (their second run that deep in the tourney in 50+ years).
Then he retired. A few years later he took the Cal job. He made the tourney 4 times in 6 seasons. He had a winning season in conference play every year he was there. He retired again.
Cuonzo Martin took the Cal job immediately after that and went 7-11 in the Pac-12.
The idea that the Golden Bears have a good coach is kind of up for debate. The idea that they "now" have a good coach is fucking absurd. Montgomery > Martin, every day of the week until proven otherwise.
Cuonzo Martin has recruited very well thus far in his four years at a high major but it remains to be seen how good of a coach he is.
a Confederate cavalry general(Joseph Wheeler).
The South is....odd.
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Harder, and stronger.
He can either play with Derrick Walton as his starting PG or this guy
Ivy, what is it you see in Walton that would help Brown?
I'm not saying Walton doesn't have attributes as a player, but what does he do as a point guard exactly? I know people don't believe thier lying eyes when it comes to Spike. He could average 20 assists a game for a season but most Michigan fans would still say they love him BUT... and still think of him as a decent backup. Walton could go his whole career without creating a point for another player with PG skills but he will still be hailed as a great point guard. I don't get it.
My team manager friend insists he'll be an All-American next year. I said as a guy who can be a great passing and penetrating PG? Yes absolutely he said. Ok, but I've just never seen signs of it. I think Zak did more point guardy things in his last few games than Walton has ever done. He created points for other guys when they otherwise would not have existed, that's what we need.
He can either play with Derrick Walton as his starting PG or this guy
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Reminds me of Stanley Johnson
of myself playing on an 8 foot rim. I'm impressed. But seriously, he also reminds me a little of Duke's Justise Winslow the way he takes the ball to the hoop with authority. Surround him with three shooters (Irvin, Dawkins, Walton) and have Doyle set screen after screen for him and he will be POY as a sophomore, if he stays. It's a logjam next year and I'd like to see him apprentice under a senior LeVert. I think you find 30 MPG for him as a frosh. Minutes are going to be a precious commodity next season.
If Brown comes, as others have noted, that would give us an insane amount of subs.
In fact, I'd have to say, we'd have so many subs that it would be... crazy.
Here's a link to the ESPN segment: http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=12736827[1]
No reason to doubt him with Sam still saying that we're in good shape for Brown. Here's to hoping.
I'd be curious to find out what sort of role Beilein envisions for Brown and how he would use him. He's a player who reminds me a lot of Stanley Johnson at Arizona, and we haven't really had a guy like that in Beilein's system (not a great shot, very strong/athletic, good handle, maybe dominates the ball more than he should/will in Beilein's system, etc.).
Do we play a guy like that at the 4 (or put Irvin there) and remain a small team on D? Does he play the 2 and handle the ball quite a bit?
Seems like a very talented guy who at the same time I don't really see an immediate fit for on this team (don't see anyone pushing LeVert/Irvin out of the lineup, don't think Coach B wants to keep going small, and I don't know what spot Brown would play). It will be interesting to see how it plays out, especially if he ends up in Ann Arbor. So many fun options to think about with this team and all the depth they will have, with or without Brown/WIlliams.
That could be big. If he's willing/interested in staying two years (something I think I heard he said, but if you're going to be a top-10 pick that is hard to turn down) then he could really become a monster in addition to making a huge impact here. Be the first guy off the bench in year one and learn the system, probably playing multiple spots. Then replace Caris at the 2 on a team with potentially Walton/Irvin/Robinson/BigGuy in the starting lineup, and a ton of depth and other options.
That lineup would seem to create a great fit for his game and an opportunity to really shine as a college player (rather than just as a NBA potential guy).
April 21st, 2015 at 10:22 PM ^
Cliff Alexander played 17 mpg at Kansas this past year (he was #4 on the 247 composite). Mudiay went to China and from what I hear didn't set the world on fire.
Obviously most highly rated guys play, because they commit to teams that need/want them to step in right away. They don't typically go to schools where a guy has turned down potentially being a late 1st round pick to come back to school. Ulis and Booker didn't start at Kentucky because the Harrison twins came back. Our most highly rated guy last year (#27 overall on the composite) was the least productive of our 4 freshmen who were healthy enough to play.
If he's not going to come off the bench it probably means he's not coming here, or people will once again be bitching every time we lose that we have no size and get dominated in the paint.
April 21st, 2015 at 10:35 PM ^
I don't think a lineup of Walton-LeVert-Irvin-Brown-Doyle would get dominated in the paint. That's actually a decent sized lineup.
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April 22nd, 2015 at 12:35 AM ^
They are better players than the Harrison twins, no matter what some hamburger company says.
So surely he will Go Blue.
And I will possibly sleep with Kate Bock. Well hopefully.
Come to M Jaylen!!
I had to look up who that was. Don't regret that decision one bit...
Horse face, huge forehead.....