Jabrill traded to NYG for Beckham jr
Per Adam schefter.
God damn!
[edit: mgowill] Title somewhat misleading.
Browns get Beckham.
Giants get Cleveland’s 1st round pick (No. 17 overall), the second 3rd round pick this year and Jabrill Peppers.
The trade cannot be made final until Wed. at 4 p.m. ET.
As a life long Giants fan this harkens back to the late 60's to early 70's. This organization is a dumpster fire. John Mara is clueless.
The only upside here is getting Jabril. My son the Michigan alum will be getting a jersey.
You couldn't be more right! John Mara is in no way comparable to his father, this franchise is a disaster!
I'll take Kate and Rooney over all those other Maras.
Looking forward to having a reason to watch the Giants this season. Love me some Peppers!
Lmfao you may be the only person in the internet whose main takeaway was "looking forward to having a reason to watch the Giants this season".
OBJ is a cancer. Browns have gotten better,but Hunt probably isnt playing this year,Calloway isnt going to resign now
Browns front office has sucked forever,its about time they made some moves ..its been 17 years since the Browns made the playoffs.
NYG werent going to be good this year,so loading up on draft picks is a good idea,plus adding starters like Peppers and the OL only helps the overall "future" roster
So the downside of trading for a 26 year old potential hall of famer is 3 years from now we might not be able to resign our 3rd receiver.....my God......how will we ever recover!!
March 12th, 2019 at 10:13 PM ^
You think OBJ is going to stay in that shit hole city for his career? He will have success,then in 2-3 years start with his "same ole same ole" im more important than the team... then Cleveland will be forced to dump him.
AFC is pretty deep.Cleveland winning a playoff game isnt very likely for the next few years..KC,New England,Chargers.Colts,Pittsburgh,Jags,Houston,Titans,Ravens
Ravens just lost 3 defensive starters and they have a QB who literally can't throw. You're right, history shows the read option will work in the NFL, and Lamar Jackson won't get hurt. You're guaranteeing the Patriots, Chargers and Steelers QBs will all still be playing in 2-3 years? The Titans and Jags? Yeah, if this league has shown us anything it's that you win playoff games with shitty quarterbacks.
March 13th, 2019 at 10:19 AM ^
Pretty sure the Raven's qb literally CAN throw. Perhaps not well, but he can do it.
March 12th, 2019 at 10:45 PM ^
You’ve been listening to Mike Francesa too much. OBJ being a cancer is total bullshit just because he’s vocal and emotional. Any sane giants fan is not happy about this.
March 12th, 2019 at 11:09 PM ^
By that line of thought, Francesa is a full body tumor.
Show me where ANY NY Giant football player is saying this is a bad trade? or saying we shouldve kept OBJ ....There is a reason the guy was shown the door.
Go to you tube type in OBJ sideline antics,and tell me you like this guy .He is a diva that isnt as good as people think he is.Deion Sanders said it best "this guy needs to stop what hes doing and just be a football player now,no more excuses for why he cant do "his thang"
He fakes injuries.thats a cancer
I'm a Giant fan and think I'm pretty sane. While I'm concerned about it I'm far from unhappy. OBJ is an immense talent but he's been far from awesome the last few years and it's not all Manning's fault. There have been plenty of dropped passes - the kind that were put right in his hands. Maybe he'll stay on the field revert to all-world in Cleveland but that's far from a given. At this point I'm not particularly distressed over this, especially given that the Giants are probably a few years away from being good even with him.
Browns are tracking to make the Super Bowl before the Lions.
The Browns are technically an expansion team, so they along with the Texans and Jaguars can't really be regarded too harshly for not making the Super Bowl yet. The original Browns never made it, but eventually did as the Ravens — leaving the Lions as the only non-90's/2000's-expansion team to never reach the Super Bowl. Saddest franchise ever.
March 13th, 2019 at 11:37 AM ^
Literally no active players, other than two kickers, were in the NFL when the Browns re-joined in 1999. Likewise, fewer than five active players were in the NFL when the Texans joined in 2002. Considering them "expansion" teams after 17-20 years is bizarre.
Cost of living is higher, so be extra careful with savings, Jabrill.
Other than that I'd rather live in NY than Cleveland.... hope he enjoys this next chapter!!
The Browns got fleeced.
March 12th, 2019 at 10:20 PM ^
Did your SexualButt account get deleted?
Gtfo with that bullshit. Where do you dipshits come from? Let me guess, a trailer in Wapakoneta....
I love it when people from Toledo, a hemorrhoid on the anus of the midwest, try to disparage other cities.
March 12th, 2019 at 10:01 PM ^
Peppers is going home. He's from New Jersey which is nearby.
Much better than that shithole loserland.
March 12th, 2019 at 10:17 PM ^
According the NFL Network,other teams offered a lot less for OBJ,something in the A Brown range and 3rd and 5th round pick.
The Giants kind of fleeced the Browns,if you go by OBJ market value
And OBJ can still veto this trade,which is being talked about (when he gets back from over seas)
So its not a done deal according to NFL Network
March 12th, 2019 at 10:20 PM ^
What is OBJs "market value"?
March 12th, 2019 at 10:34 PM ^
According to NFL Network he was being shopped around and teams offered 3rd and 5th round picks,and one team offered a 2nd round pick and wanted OBJ and Giants 5th rounder next yr
So im guessing OBJ market value is what teams were willing to give up for him
People have to remember ,Beckham has always been a cancer,suspensions,been injured way too often (some fake injuries according to some people) He was great 2-3 years ago,but he isnt that guy anymore and he never will be ,Thus his market value is kind of low .
He is a guy that is going to have 80 catches for 1000 yds and 8 tds,but you will find that on almost every team in the NFL ...
Apologies.
I totally misread your post. I thought you were saying the Giants could have gotten more based on "market value" which sounded made up and illogical. You clearly said the opposite and I can't read.
March 12th, 2019 at 11:19 PM ^
Giants beat writers are reporting Jabrill was a key component for this deal to happen.
New Jersey is not nearby.
The Meadowlands ARE in NJ/East Rutherford.
Good for JP and he gets to wear blue again.....
March 12th, 2019 at 10:33 PM ^
I hope Jabril has a great accountant because he is going to pay a whole lot more in taxes going to New York.
March 12th, 2019 at 11:05 PM ^
Uhh, the Giants (and Jets) play in New Jersey. The only thing New York about their football teams would be the names.
I'm thinking NJ taxes are still much higher than Ohio's. Especially property taxes.
I could be wrong though.
March 13th, 2019 at 10:26 AM ^
Funny enough, NJ taxes are higher than NY's!
March 14th, 2019 at 10:20 AM ^
NY and NJ. Both yuck.
March 12th, 2019 at 10:38 PM ^
True except as crazy as it sounds the two teams are on completely different trajectories. giants are in 100% rebuild mode yet realized this two years too late and still don’t have a QB and by the time they do, their best player Barkley will most likely be run into the ground and in his last or next to last year of his rookie deal. There is literally no one else on that team and I say that as a Giants fan. At least I get my Sundays backs. Not sure I can watch Barkely run into a stacked box 30 times and catch 10 check down passes per game
March 12th, 2019 at 11:26 PM ^
I don't know about the Giants not being capable until late in Barkley's rookie deal. Each First Round rookie contract is 4 years with a team option for a 5th. I highly doubt Barkley won't be locked up for 4 more years. The Giants are picking 6th, 17th, and 37th! That means they will potentially get 2 of the top 20 players, and 3 of the top 50 players in this year's draft! In today's NFL, that can mean a much quicker turnaround.
They can pull a Kansas City and draft a quarterback who can sit and learn behind Manning for a year, and then take over with a loaded offense (Barkley, Sterling Shepard, Evan Engram), and a young core built the right way... through the draft. Turnarounds can happen quickly in the NFL. KC, the Rams, Houston, Chicago, Eagles, all made the playoffs in the past 2 years in the second year of the reign of their new, highly drafted quarterbacks. The Giants will have a 2nd year quarterback in Barkley's 3rd year, with 2 years left on the running backs deal. Don't be surprised if 2019 is the last year of a bad NYG team.
And at the very least, he'll get to be on Sunday Night Football every month.
The "rebuild" crowd in the NFL comments are clearly not watching the game and the quick transitions. Some teams have a history of ownership allowing their staff to construct winning teams (Giants) and some have crazy and football ignorant owners (Browns). The difference is always the results on the field. I am sure there is plenty negging going around on this take but let's check back three years from now and see who is trending where. As a lifetime Lions fan, I know incompetent ownership and the results exceedingly well. I am thankful the Browns keep the Lions from being the constant butt of the joke. Continue on, boys!
March 12th, 2019 at 10:44 PM ^
Giants replace Collins, they get an extra first and a third. They could get their QB of the future in Haskins, add a OL with the browns pick. Pick up another OL or two with their second or third round picks, they are building for the future pretty quickly I just hope they build in time so that Barkley doesn't have too much tread on his tires and is wasted
March 12th, 2019 at 11:01 PM ^
I wouldn't want OBJ on my team. I just can't get the Boat Trip on the week of a playoff game out of my mind. Not only that, his performance in the game was atrocious. He had almost as many drops (3) as catches (4), and had only 28 receiving yards. With all of his antics (Boat Trip, sideline tantrums, crazy media statements, public criticisms of teammates and team), I'd not want him infecting my team, especially a young team, with his selfish, fame-first, attention seeking behavior.
There are now too many big, wild personalities in Cleveland. The quarterback is over the top. Two wide receivers are over the top. The new running back is over the top. And, that's all in the same huddle! This won't end well for the Browns. The Giants tired of OBJ less than a year after giving him the biggest wide receiver contract in history... Let that sink in!
Congrats to Jabrill Peppers for getting out of Cleveland. However, I never like when young players end up playing so close to home. The money is still new to them, and the hangers-on have much more immediate access to you. It's tough breaking away from old neighborhood ties when you're still so physically close to the neighborhood. Hopefully, he keeps his mind on his craft, and becomes one of the best young safeties in the game.
I made similar points elsewhere but I appreciate your being even more direct. I'm a longtime Giant fan and have seen literally every OBJ snap. I don't get the hysteria over this. Maybe the pundits at ESPN have just seen his highlight reel.
March 12th, 2019 at 11:11 PM ^
I find it amusing that everyone is happy Jabrill is getting out of Cleveland to go to East Rutherford/NYC but he's also going from a team that is trending upwards to a team that is a total shit show that is lucky to win 3 games this year.
"Trending upwards".
Sure they are. The best 7-9 team we've ever seen. And if anybody can win them a Super Bowl, it's... I actually don't even know who their coach is. But I'm sure random rookie head coach will have no problem balancing OBJ and Baker Mayfield.
Not hating on Cleveland. They should be excited. But as a Lions/Michigan fan, I've seen fanbases count their offseason chickens for decades with virtually no payoff. LOL at blind faith in the Browns.
Objectively though, this is trending upwards for the Browns.
They haven't amassed this much proven talent for decades.
March 13th, 2019 at 12:15 AM ^
This is probably the best thing for Jabrill. A change in scenery was needed for sure.
Why?
This is an uninformed take but whatever
March 13th, 2019 at 12:16 AM ^
Wide receivers don't make a franchise. Quarterbacks and coaching do. Antonio Brown, OBJ, Dez Bryant, Julio Jones, AJ Green, DeAndre Hopkins, Mike Evans, T.Y. Hilton, Larry Fitzgerald, and Calvin Johnson: 0 combined Super Bowl wins. Julian Edelman: 3 time champ.
Baker had a good year but it's still gonna be only his second year so almost nothing can be assumed yet. Not to mention a new head coach who has never been the head guy before. I get why it's fun to talk about them, but I'll believe the Browns are a contender when I see it
Seconded, though I actually hope it happens. There are some loyal ass die hard Browns fans out there. Would be cool if they had something to cheer about.
Thanks.
That should be a nice change for him to get out of OH and back home to the NY/NJ area.
Maybe he will play QB for them...