Interesting Backstory from Sam & Devin on Jadyn vs. Air at the Elite 11 Atlanta Regional

Submitted by smotheringD on June 20th, 2023 at 5:46 PM

Devin set up the head-to-head and made sure Air came out on top in order to light a fire under Jadyn.

Devin is both entertaining and impressive with his coaching acumen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVRC7QdcZEs

 

WeimyWoodson

June 20th, 2023 at 6:13 PM ^

Nice that he’s saying that but it does appear that JD is slipping in the rankings and how he’s viewed (didn’t finish in the top 11 at the Elite 11) and observers are saying there’s something in his mechanics and he’ll fall in the rankings. While not gospel, I’m hoping he’s closer to JJ than Shea. 

njvictor

June 20th, 2023 at 6:22 PM ^

I honestly could not care if he falls in the rankings. We know based on his scouting report and tape what we are getting: not prototypical size or frame, not elite arm strength, but someone who excels at running an offense, improvisation, and ball placement. Davis got to where he is in the rankings despite his physical profile, which rankings and scouts care maybe too much about. We saw at the Elite 11 how Davis struggled a bit the first few days against physically bigger guys in drills (in shorts with no defenders) that didn't really play to his strengths then in the 7 on 7 portion had a top 3 performance and was arguably #1 or #2 in that portion of the camp, where a lot of other guys who performed better than him the first few days really struggled. Guys like DJ Lagway and Julian Sayin performed far worse than Davis in 7 on 7. If they want to drop him in the rankings for not looking as good throwing in shorts against air, then so be it

NJblue2

June 20th, 2023 at 7:39 PM ^

On3 has never been much of a fan of him, but everywhere else I've seen says he finished around the middle overall. I don't think combine style settings is a good spot for him because he's not a physically dominant guy with size and power. 

He's accurate, smart, and can improv. Those things don't show well when you're just playing catch pretty much.

blueandmaizeballs

June 20th, 2023 at 9:09 PM ^

They also ranked  the QBs after everyday.    But each site or different analyst rank each QB different.  On3 for some reason doesn't like or isn't high on JD for some reason.   Other sites or people are.  Some like Davis more then others but to me there are certain analyst who rank Bama or OSU or even Georgias QBs higher no matter what.   

Leaders And Best

June 20th, 2023 at 7:38 PM ^

He finished in the official Elite 11, but I think some of your concern is justified for a different reason. My bigger concern for Michigan is QB recruiting in general. Even if Davis killed it at the Elite 11, it's a dangerous game to put all your eggs in one basket at the QB position. We did not take a QB in the 2023 class and have 3-star Jayden Denegal in 2022 class who is probably behind Davis Warren on depth chart.

I think it is going to be essential for Michigan to get another elite QB like Bryce Underwood in the 2025 class. If Michigan were to miss out on both Bryce Underwood and Dante Moore in their backyard, it would be a huge loss especially if Michigan were to develop a void at the QB position.

 

NJblue2

June 20th, 2023 at 7:44 PM ^

I think Michigan realizes that. They have made Underwood their priority but they've thrown out some offers to other prospects. Matt Weiss recruiting only one QB in 2023 and not being a good recruiter wasn't a smart move. 

Kirk Campbell seems like a massive improvement in that department and is recruiting Underwood very hard

LDNfan

June 21st, 2023 at 1:55 AM ^

Part of the issue IMO was ever having Weiss as a QB coach in the first place.  He didn't get canned for poor job performance (recruiting is a key part of the job). UM basically got lucky when he broke the law and had to go....and they had, what definitely seems to be, a better candidate already on the staff. 

Blueisgood

June 20th, 2023 at 9:18 PM ^

Kinda selling Davis Warren a little short here. Yea, he was a walk-on, but if it wasn't for leukemia and covid canceling his senior year, I believe its been said he'd probably been a 4 star recruit. The kid has some skill and I'm hoping he gets some meaningful snaps in the early games this season. If JJ goes to the league after this season, I'm betting on Warren to be QB1, not Jadyn Davis. 

Logan

June 21st, 2023 at 6:47 AM ^

This definitely seems like the old school way of thinking. Yes of course high school QB recruiting is important and getting Bryce Underwood or another top target in 2025 would be a smart thing to do. But the portal has changed things. If Michigan has a “void” at QB, you better believe we are getting a top transfer.

energyblue1

June 21st, 2023 at 11:50 AM ^

I have to disagree with your post on a few things. 

1) Eggs in one basket due to not taking a qb in 2023 class.  The previous class we took 2, Orji and Denagal.  We also took Tuttle as a transfer in with a couple years eligibility and have Davis Warren on the roster.

2)  We didn't land the top guys on the board and passed on others for 2023, that means don't take a reach if the top guys went elsewhere. 

3)  JJ, might be here for 2024, there is no given that he leaves for the nfl after this season.  Even if he does, I put the battle for qb1 between Warren, Orji and Tuttle or another transfer.  Which Imo we are just fine.  The QB room is far better today than it was at anypoint prior to 2022! 

core42

June 20th, 2023 at 8:57 PM ^

The "something" in his mechanics is pretty clear if you watch the Elite 11 tape, he has developed a bit of a wind up.  He's dropping the ball down to his waist or thigh then bringing it up to release it which is causing him to be late on timing throws. 

It's not like his entire throwing motion has changed and this is something he can tighten up, hopefully in high school but if not Michigan will "fix" it.  

energyblue1

June 21st, 2023 at 12:03 PM ^

The biggest thing was mentioned, dropping his arm and bringing the ball down.  That is an easy fix but will take 1000's of reps to break.  The biggest thing is breaking them when he comes to fall camp. 

The funny thing is making an issue out of something that many qb's do as most all have some fundamentals to fix.  Davis, his best attribute is accuracy on the move, seeing the field on the move and throw accurately against coverage off platform.  Something many cannot do. 

If you watch, many of the elite 11 have been going to qb coaches for a few years now and the college staff is going to change some of that anyway. 

Grampy

June 20th, 2023 at 7:21 PM ^

You may recall that JJ fell at the end of the cycle, too. He turned out OK. Consider how much more extensive the scouting is for the NFL, yet their track record isn’t better than, what, 50%. *  It’s hard to quantify what makes for a good QB. 

* wild-ass guess on my part 

schreibee

June 20th, 2023 at 9:52 PM ^

Along those lines - is Trey Lance a bust?

If yes, is it because of:

A) an inefficient throwing motion -or-

B) because he can't stay on the field?

If A) then is that bad QB eval by SF, or have they not been able to fix it up to now because of B)?!

Grading the draft picks gets so complicated when context is added in!

Rhino77

June 20th, 2023 at 8:13 PM ^

Devin talked about the intangibles Davis has above the shoulders. Much rather have that than “Built like Tarzan, plays like Jane.” 

Michigan Realist

June 20th, 2023 at 10:36 PM ^

After the hard to listen to ( to put it nicely ) Spring Game broadcast I’m surprised Devin still is employed in broadcasting. He was absolutely annoying and I had to just turn the sound off. Many other Michigan fans shared the same review on GB Wolverine - Michigan Insider and M&B .I wasn’t the only person that turned the sound off. 
 

Devon needs a little less motor mouth and goofballing and a lot more professionalism. Michigan can do better than him. Jake Butt on the other looked like Keith Jackson next to Gardner. He actually has some broadcast talent. 
 

Hey I’m a Michigan Realist 

Michigan Realist

June 21st, 2023 at 9:40 AM ^

Nope you got that wrong old buddy old pal. 
 

I mistakenly included Wilson in a comment about FLORIDA commitments. I owned up to it shortly after. So actually your comment about me saying it was OSU or Notre Dame is as rock solid as my blunder. 
 

You must of rushed your comment trying to be funny or cute. It was a fail. However, I’m sure you’ll have other opportunities in the insult game and me. You’re gonna have to sharpen your game in that category though. 
 

BTW My opinion doesn’t have to be rock solid. Personal opinions are just that. With people who agree with them they are solid opinions. Expand your consciousness a bit. I by no stretch of the imagination am the only Michigan fan that thinks DG is atrocious as a media broadcaster. 
 

Also by the way I don’t hate Michigan. I have been a fan since 1971 but I call em as I see em. Michigan is great but a portion of our fan base just like most fan bases drink the cool aid while wearing rose colored glasses  You for instance 😊

That’s being a realist.