If You Think Firing Harbaugh Is The Answer, You're An Idiot.

Harbs doesn’t need fired, but Don Brown does.   Giving up that many points to Ohio State can’t be tolerated.  You must part ways with under performing coaches.   Whenever faced with a legitimate team with the pulse, Don Brown and the players he personally offers scholarships too get eviscerated and ran out of the stadium.  Bye

This fucking argument is tiresome. Just say your chicken shit and get it over with. 

I don’t think firing Harbaugh is the answer either, but let’s not pretend that he’s doing such a great job that he’s become irreplaceable. Watching how successful Lincoln Riley and Ryan Day are just shows me that it’s almost completely about recruiting. Coaches might win a game for you here and there, but the real difference is the talent on the field. 

I will take an average coach who is a great recruiter over a great coach who is an average recruiter. 

Why do you think this?  We would be the best available job in college football if we let him go or he goes to NFL. There are other great coaches out there. Just takes deep research but very good coaches would be GLAD to take the Michigan job. And we are not afraid to write big checks for football coaches (see most overpaid staff in football)

We're back to our historical mean.

OSU is as good as they've ever been.

If we want to compete with OSU, Bama, Clemson, LSU, we need to fire the money cannon and get the talent to compete, and let them practice all day and take every class online with an academic "assistant".

If we want to continue with the student-athlete model, the ceiling is Stanford, Michigan, Notre Dame. This is just the reality of modern college football that Urban Meyer brought from the SEC to OSU, paying players and practicing as if they are already professional athletes.

Cosigned for title. JH is not the best coach in existence but is exactly the right coach for Michigan. (His assistants could use a little shaking up.)

Unclench.

Why does this need to be a post? Are you trying to convince others or yourself? Go to sleep

Harbaugh is certainly one of the best quarterbacks we've ever had, he's not even near the top 10 best coaches we've ever had. He's certainly not going to get fired, no matter how poorly his teams perform against anybody with a pulse, but it is theoretically possible for him to eventually stumble on the right combination of assistants to cover up his rather obvious coaching deficiencies. Dabo did it after 6 years or so at Clemson. They were so famous for derping away games that everybody called it "The Clemsoning." I suppose it's possible for Harbaugh to hire people better at coaching than he is, and for Michigan to not get exposed as pretenders 3 times a year every year, but until that happens he is every ohio state fans favorite Michigan coach by a wiiiiiiiiiide margin. 

If I see 1 more "this is more or less where we've been for most of our history," I'm gonna lose it.  So we can't strive for a title or a win over Ohio State because we typically haven't won those in the past?  What about the several decades we did?  What if Ohio State had said "well John Cooper is a really good coach, but beating Michigan is just TOO hard, and we should be fine losing every year". No, fuck that.  They took a chance on a D-2 coach who'd never run a Power 5 program.  That man, Jim Tressel, immediately tells the fans, players and school that he's gonna beat Michigan and that's exactly what he did.  Hell, Brady Hoke emphasized "Ohio" from day 1 and his teams fought harder than most of Jim's efforts.  

Imagine if Auburn said "whelp, Alabama is just too tough and recruits too well, we'll never be better than a 9-3 team who loses every year to our rival.  Nope, they beat fucking Saban and Bama several times.  Georgia got tired of recruiting well and winning 10 games but never a game that mattered.  Couple years under Kirby and they went to the National Championship.

I respect Harbaugh, but this mentality that we should accept mediocrity because we might become a 8-5 or 7-6 team again is bullshit.  We'll be that team anyway if we can't beat our rival.  Who wants to play for a coach who repeatedly gets embarrassed every November?  Jim needs to do whatever it takes, double down on taking them out, and just win the damn game at all costs.  Michigan is not Ohio State's punching bag and anyone fine with our current state needs to reevaluate their fandom.  

He’s 0-5. Name a rival school who would keep their coach at 0-5? You can’t stand pat because your scared of whose next. Can’t be worse than 0-5 again. He made his change at OC and it seemed to work. I’m fine with giving him 1 more with a new DC but he has to win the big ten. If he doesn’t he’s out. 

He sucks and this post sucks. His tenure at Michigan save for maybe his first year has been nothing more than replacement level. 

The problem is expectations and the fact fans don't have any excuses to make themselves feel better now outside of maybe OSU being a juggernaut. 

So,  if Jim Harbaugh were to leave and be potentially replaced by a "young up and comer" or a relative nobody then there are no expectations.  Therefore when the going gets tough under a new head coach we can revert back to the same old lame excuses. It's just his first year, wait till he gets his players and his system installed, at least it's fresh blood in there now, can't expect to beat the good teams if the cupboard is bare e.t.c e.t.c e.t.c

Truth is we hate having expectations. 

The two biggest issues I see is one we are not recruiting at the same level ( and NO it is not because EVERY FUCKING PROGRAM THAT BEATS US PAYS PLAYERS) as the elite schools. winning breeds winning and when you start rolling like ohio has then top tier recruits will want to go there. period. They have a chance to play in Big time games and bowl games, get big fancy rings and other crap. 

the second biggest issue in my estimation is player development. We DO get great players, on par with Clemson and other programs but how often are we taking players and turning them into elite players? Rashan Gary was suppose to be THE MAN and did jack shit for us. Harbaugh and team are NOT elite at developing players.