FanDuel early odds for 8 big mathc ups thisFall, M favored over Oho St

Mad thc ups is my thing too dawg 

FSU is an interesting one.  They finished 2022 ranked 27th in S&P+, but they were ranked 9th per FEI.  That's a big spread between those two advanced metrics, you usually don't see that much divergence.

They do return a considerable amount of their roster this year.

The LSU game is in Orlando, FWIW - a "neutral site" that is comparable to last year's game between the 2 teams being in NOLA.

Michigan math cups - color me intrigued…

I find it funny that UM vs OSU is basically a toss-up early, because the average OSU fan has already penciled that game in as a 3 score loss for them. 

We may think we have BPONE here but OSU fans are the worst. When things are going good you can't shut'em up, when they're not, they start jumping off bridges into the Olentangy. 

BTW, thanks for the info OP. I still have free play. 

I honestly think the PSU game may turn out to be tougher than OSU because PSU is "due" to win one of these games at some point and it's a road game.  We'll see how OSU looks throwing the ball but I think that Georgia game left a vision in people's mind of an OSU team that was better against good defenses than they actually performed all year.  Obviously OSU is going to be a bear but if Drew Allar can be competent they have talent around him.

MSU is going to be so awful to play and I really wish they'd be off the schedule.  They're going to be bad on both sides of the ball but will also be assholes about it.  And Washington is going to absolutely truck them.

I do wonder if this year we find out if Texas is really "back"; the times I saw them this year they didn't look that well coached and were mostly trying to get by on talent.  It'll be interesting to see how their offense looks without Robinson, who covered up for a lot of offensive line sins.

FSU feels like a team that is both overrated and underrated.  They're absolutely out of the malaise they were toward the end of the Jimbo era on, when they recruited okay and got swamped by anyone with a pulse.  But they also lost 3 straight games this year to the 3 ranked teams on their schedule and though they looked somewhat competitive in said games these weren't world-beaters.  10 wins are 10 wins but they've been framed as a darkhorse playoff team in some circles and that feels like a huge stretch.  And LSU is weird because they are a really talented team and Kelly and coach...but we'll see if Kelly can make it work long-term at a school that is chaotic in general and who may tire of Kelly's fake accent if he borks a couple of games.

I'm not particularly surprised Iowa is favored at ISU; the Cyclones were 110th in offense and 6th in defense while Iowa was 118th and 1st, respectively.  And Iowa added a proven Big 10 starter in Cade plus some other weapons; they aren't going to be world-beaters but even a top-75 offense with that defense is a really good football team.  And at this point it's a given ISU will play in a ton of close games (they went 1-6 in 1-score games) but there's no reason to think they'll be better, on average, than .500 in said games and when you play a ton of close ones you're just a mediocre team.

I don't find the Florida State spread odd. Florida State started putting everything together towards the end of last season after losing three very close games in a row. If they improve, which seems reasonable, they will be a very tough team to beat on a "neutral" field in Orlando.  They also beat LSU last year on a "neutral" field in New Orleans.

The Fox Sports so-called experts had Ohio beating us last year until the Don broke free.  I think I'd rather be the underdog. 

Michigan by 1.5 at Penn State sounds right. A lot depends on their QB situation and if Allar really is “the guy,” but you can pencil that game in right here, right now as their white out night game. I’d take Michigan on a neutral field, but Happy Valley is like it’s own opponent, on top of the football team you have to play. Penn State could win that game and it wouldn’t shock me.

Michigan has got a bear of an away schedule next year. At MSU, which might be a garbage team but you know how MSU will always be out for blood, at Penn State, at Minnesota, and Fleck is good for trotting out a really good team there every few years, at Nebraska, who could be decent under Rhule, and at Maryland, which still has plenty of athletes that can give the defense problems.

2023: National Championship or bust.

I smell burnt toast 

You don't thay!!!

The math cups of the fig things intrigues me.

Can't wait for Gerdeman's chart of how much to fear UM this year. Smarm meeting humility may give birth to reality.

Big Math Cups is the new Fig Thing

Florida State is getting back a lot of production. Their fans are saying they are BACK.

I'm sad to read about this.  Although expected.  

I loved having back to back years of +250 on the moneyline.  

Michigan -2 is the line S&P+ would have on The Game right now, assuming a 3-point swing for home field.  Most of those early lines track closely with S&P+ except for LSU/FSU (SP has it LSU -2.5) and UGA/Tenn (SP has it UGA -4.5).

How in the world did you push send with several misspellings? Your put so much effort into the post, spend an extra few seconds checking your work.