A Crazy Night of Football "Day After" Snowflakes Thread

Submitted by Mr. Yost on

One more thread to consolidate the thoughts on everything that happened yesterday/last night. Before the sports media world completely switches to the NFL.

Thoughts now that you've had a chance to process?

 

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November 8th, 2015 at 2:34 PM ^

I feel this way also, but I feel like the inept refereeing is hurting the sport.  B1G needs full time refs, and not a promotion of the current refs from part-time to full time.

It was destiny that Sparty would get screwed on a bad call that was not overturned after benefitting so many times from the same scenario.  

Delaney should be fired.  Head of refereeing should be fired.  Replay booth officials should be professionals, not retired casual observors who happen to know the guy doling out Big Ten assignments. 

Old men who ran college football for years, refusing to change the old bowl system, are now evidently in charge of refereeing.  I am an old guy myself, but if I see one more old guy out there blowing another call, I am going to puke.  

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victors2000

November 8th, 2015 at 10:52 AM ^

I don't know if the Big Ten refs are horrible. I do know they have a tough job; overseeing a game and ensuring the rules are followed every play by all involved. There is so much that goes on every play, so much to look at, so many rules to know. Their job is scrutinized as it's done, by hundreds of players and coaches, thousands and thousands of fans in the stadium, and millions and millions of people watching on t.v.. So many ways to go wrong, so many ways to be thought of negatively. The decisions made are done in real time and there is no do over; they have to go with what they saw and how they understand the rules. The play with the wide receiver going out of bounds yesterday in Lincoln is a great example; there was contact but was it enough to force the receiver out of bounds? Well the play is over, the moment is over and the call was made. As some one pointed out, it doesn't take much to get you off your line when you are going at top speed; maybe it was the right call. What really resulted was a blown up issue where everyone has an opinion and folks in EL brandished pitchforks and torches and did what they do.

Their jobs are tough and it's got to be stressy knowing every call you make is potentially going to be looked at under a microscope, over and over, in real time, in slow motion, from different angles. Until you've walked a mile in their shoes - and in a game's worth of time that is probably pretty accurate - I think we should keep the vitriol against the refs to a minimum.

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snarling wolverine

November 8th, 2015 at 11:24 AM ^

Yep. Those guys have apparently unlimited time to review a play (I'm not aware of any time limits) yet still frequently struggle. Is it true that replay official is generally a position given to referees at the end of their careers, when they're no longer effective on the field? If so, perhaps that's not helping matters.

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reshp1

November 8th, 2015 at 11:41 AM ^

I agree with the sentiment in general, but they aren't missing a call here and there. They are consistently wrong and consistently worse than their peers in other conferences. This crew in particular seems to be bringing up the rear, even among big ten refs. There job is hard, but their trained professionals. They should be held to a higher standard than "well, I'm not sure if I could get the call right." Furthermore, there seems to be no oversight or accountability whatsoever. These guys mess up over and over and there's never any shake up or even an admission of a mistake.

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champswest

November 8th, 2015 at 11:57 AM ^

do anything during the week to get better or prepare for the games. Do they review film of calls made by them or other units? How hard would it be for someone to put together a clip of this weeks calls (good and bad) along with comments and email it to all officials for them to review? They could also be sent quizzes on various rules.

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M-Dog

November 8th, 2015 at 12:42 PM ^

The biggest shock for Jim Harbaugh coming back to college after a long time in the NFL isn't the player talent or the recruiting or the schmoozing boosters . . . it has to be the stunningly inept refs.  

He constantly has that Alice-in-Wonderland I-can't-believe-what-I'm-hearing look when he has to deal with them.  Like being the only sane man in the aslylum.

 

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Mr. Yost

November 8th, 2015 at 10:12 AM ^

Saturday, November 14
MATCHUP   TIME  (ET) NAT TV LOCATION
#3Ohio State
Illinois		 12:00 PM ABC
WatchESPN		 Memorial Stadium , Champaign, IL
Maryland
#7Michigan State		 12:00 PM ESPN2
WatchESPN		 Spartan Stadium , East Lansing, MI
#4Alabama
#20Mississippi State		 3:30 PM CBS Davis Wade Stadium, Starkville, MS
#17Michigan
Indiana		 3:30 PM ABC
ESPN2
WatchESPN		 Memorial Stadium , Bloomington, IN
#13Memphis
#25Houston		 7:00 PM ESPN2
WatchESPN		 TDECU Stadium, Houston, TX
Arkansas
#2LSU		 7:15 PM ESPN
WatchESPN		 Tiger Stadium , Baton Rouge, LA
Oregon
#11Stanford		 7:30 PM FOX Stanford Stadium, Stanford, CA
BYU
Missouri		 7:30 PM SECN
WatchESPN		 Arrowhead Stadium, Kansas City, MO
#15Oklahoma
#6Baylor		 8:00 PM ABC
WatchESPN		 McLane Stadium, Waco, TX
Minnesota
#9Iowa		 8:00 PM BTN Kinnick Stadium, Iowa City, IA
#12Utah
Arizona		 10:00 PM   Arizona Stadium, Tucson, AZ
Washington State
#23UCLA		 10:45 PM ESPN
WatchESPN		 Rose Bowl, Pasadena, CA

 

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Mr. Yost

November 8th, 2015 at 10:14 AM ^

Not going to waste my time with OSU or MSU...no shot either of them lose.

Michigan at 3:30.

I like that Houston/Memphis game for an hour at 7p before Baylor/Oklahoma.

While OSU and MSU will ease to victory, I look for Iowa to struggle. Although at this point we want them to win.

I could also seeing Utah lose, which also hurts us while helping us (makes our loss to them look worse, but it allows us to hurdle them if we keep winning).

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Mr. Yost

November 8th, 2015 at 10:38 AM ^

I secretly could see Nebraska, I thought it needed to be a lower scoring game.

Maryland, no shot, they're just not good and not nearly as talented or well coached.

Sure, anyone COULD lose to anyone, but realistically, I just don't see either OSU or MSU losing next week.

Now PSU? I could see PSU beating MSU, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Nebraska, Iowa, NW, Michigan and OSU...all of those teams. But you're talking about Maryland...one of the worst teams in the country. They have one great player and that's it.

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jvocke

November 8th, 2015 at 2:46 PM ^

Am I the only one actually worried about Indiana next week?  I realize, "It's Indiana... wah-wahhh".... But the Hoosiers have given OSU, MSU and Iowa all they could handle in games this year.

Given that it's late in the year, chances for Indiana to have a signature win are getting few. I'm hoping the defense comes ready to play, because I think we'll have our hands full too.  These next two weeks are going to be sneaky ones to get through, especially since OSU will likely be favored to beat MSU. Crazy to think we may still control our own fate!

Go Blue!

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unWavering

November 8th, 2015 at 10:10 AM ^

MSU fans are the saddest bunch. They legitimately think that the refs conspired to end their playoff run. And they wonder why people think they have an inferiority complex.

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carolina blue

November 8th, 2015 at 10:12 AM ^

As nice as Sparty losing this game was, my takeaway is that the Oneill crew should never be allowed to ref another game...ever.
I'm betting that we get that crew for the OSU game, because of course our two biggest games would get them.

But seriously...the Oregon state game, the MSU game, and now this? Are you serious? I know other crews have issues, but they are the worst and it's not close.



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snarling wolverine

November 8th, 2015 at 12:33 PM ^

I believe they also called OSU-PSU last year (where OSU got a TD on a really dodgy interception and ended up winning in OT). Having said that, I don't think the call in MSU-Nebraska was THAT bad - watching it again, there is some contact and the DB seems to be boxing out the WR a little. Referees have discretion about how long a WR can be out of bounds and how much contact really entails "forcing". I would say it was a bad call but still defensible, in comparison to say, the Bolden targeting call that was utterly atrocious.

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Sione's Flow

November 8th, 2015 at 10:18 AM ^

The refs are bad! But, the replay official for the UM/State game, should have been fired after the game. And the "intent to deceive" penalty was bullshit. Matt Mullen even said the whole point of football is to deceive the opposing team.

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Mr. Yost

November 8th, 2015 at 10:26 AM ^

Colin Kaepernick was DESTROYED by the media by not doing exactly what Rudock did.

Doesn't care if it's a run play. Scan the field, check your matchups and if you see a wide open WR...you get the ball to him.

Now was it planned? Maybe.

But it wasn't illegal.

It wasn't the kid that faked a stroke to distract the defense.

Butt was in the huddle...the players subbing out left the field.

Butt broke the huddle early, but ALL WRs do. Literally look at every team. Look at the NFL today. The WRs all leave the huddle early and jog out to their positions.

Rutgers completely missed him, didn't account for him. 

Rudock turns to the back judge and seems to recognize Butt right away and tells him what he's going to do. Or maybe he was just saying "watch this"...regardless, there was some communication.

Rudock takes the snap and gets it out to Butt for the big gain.

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