Brian Griese

February 4th, 2019 at 11:50 AM ^

One of my favorites every year.  It looks like Barnett already has the Disrespkt down so he will fit right in at MSU.  

 

Edit: Also interesting to note there is not a whole lot nice said about Michigan and/or the coaching staff in this article.  

Navy Wolverine

February 4th, 2019 at 12:11 PM ^

On the one hand they feel disrespected about not getting shown "the love" and on the other had they hate the process where they have to deal with "My phone blow up every day, really every minute of every day, getting pulled out of class to talk to coaches and stuff."

Teenagers. 

Hei2man

February 4th, 2019 at 11:53 AM ^

Michigan has an in-state recruiting problem. 0/4 on top 100 guys Brown, Dixon, Dobbs, and Barnett and already trailing for the top 2 players next year in Enzo Jennings and Justin Rogers. Those comments are the closest thing to outright disgust from prospects I've read. Deny it if you want, I won't.

Rabbit21

February 4th, 2019 at 12:16 PM ^

Seems like the usual comments that get made every year by the kids who didn't pick Michigan.  You have kids who either grew up in anti-Michigan households or were told they were further down the board, or in the case of Brown had their recruitment flubbed by Drevno.  Given the three hires the program just made, in-state recruiting will get back on track and you will find the new thing to wring your hands about.

NRK

February 4th, 2019 at 1:33 PM ^

Dobbs was never coming and both knew it for a while.

 

Other than that this isn't anything too much out of the ordinary for this article. Michigan recruits more nationally and so isn't in on the in-state guys as much early, which means they are sometimes playing from behind later on.

They have some ground to make up after years of mediocrity as well and MSU's success during that period. It is what it is, the sky isn't falling.

Double-D

February 4th, 2019 at 12:03 PM ^

The “coaches aren’t genuine and they don’t show the love” translates to “I’m sorry but we have several players ranked higher on our board right now but let’s keep in touch”. 

Double-D

February 4th, 2019 at 12:27 PM ^

I would think we would have wanted both Dixon and Brown....probably Barnett as well.   I am not sure Brown ever gave us a chance.

It would be interesting to listen in on the private discussions of this staff.  One thing seems certain is they place a very high criteria on character, leadership, and work ethic.   

This staff seems to be strong at talent evaluation.  It also seems they missed on some kids in Michigan this past year.  Nobody bats 1000.  

ST3

February 4th, 2019 at 12:54 PM ^

I know math is hard for some people so let me help here. Batting .1000 is the same as batting .1, in other words, you are only hitting on 1 in 10 players. 

No one bats a thousand comes from baseball’s peculiar way of discussing batting averages. 3 out of 10 is 0.3, or 0.300 - hence, he’s a “three hundred” hitter. Someone batting a thousand would be at 1.000. 

ijohnb

February 4th, 2019 at 2:24 PM ^

I mean, just from like a rhetorical "evidentiary" perspective, shouldn't it be Magnus who should have to come with a couple of links right now?  I know Maizen is the worst, but Magnus is the one arguing the existence of things here, right, not Maizen.  I know he is a trusted poster and Maizen is Maizen but I am detecting a little bit of burden-shifting here.

Magnus

February 4th, 2019 at 2:36 PM ^

I agree that it's not really fair to hold one to a higher standard than the other, but I can't really go too in depth here. I'm not going to post details about stuff that would be deemed negative about high school kids.

On the other hand, both of us are claiming that there is STUFF. There should be proof that Michigan wanted them both badly (visits, tweets, etc.), too. I just can't say much more on my end.

I'll say this, and you guys can make of it what you want: the coaching staff was not greatly disappointed or surprised when those guys went in another direction.

Hei2man

February 4th, 2019 at 12:25 PM ^

Don't think it was weird at all. Lance Dixon's coach is former UM player Ron Bellamy. Belleville's coach Germain Crowell, despite all the message board nonsense that he hates UM is actually a huge UM fan and is the former Cass DC when they had guys like Jourdan Lewis, Delano Hill, Terry Richardson, etc. Logan Brown's teammate is committed here. Supposedly he was disappointed he wasn't offered by UM sooner. UW offered him as a freshman and had him at their camp every year. Dismissing this as a "weird year" is lazy and inaccurate. Michigan needs to get their house in order in-state because they can't survive if they keep whiffing on all the top players in Ohio and Michigan.

Rabbit21

February 4th, 2019 at 12:33 PM ^

The top prospects in state were two HUGE Michigan State fans apparently.  Logan Brown basically got Drevno'd and that problem has been fixed.  As for the rest:  Dixon just seemed to want to go out of state, Bradford was apparently a non-football thing, Ruke O. seemed like he wanted to blaze his own path(and a Clemson offer for a defensive lineman is going to turn heads), I then saw a LONG list of guys who weren't offered and the guy they really needed to get(Mazi Smith) they got.

So yeah, I'm calling it a weird year for in-state recruiting and I admit it was TERRIBLE timing for it to be a weird year for in-state recruiting, but weirdly sometimes you have bad luck.

Also let's be realistic, Michigan isn't getting the top players in Ohio for AT LEAST the next four or five years, no matter what they do and on field results are going to determine what happens after the next four or five years.  If you have the expectation that Michigan is getting anyone out of Ohio that Ohio State wants as a plan A kid, you're going to be disappointed.  

I have no idea why I'm debating you on this, maybe I have a foolish hope something will calm your hysteria. 

NRK

February 4th, 2019 at 9:11 PM ^

Crowell has nothing to do with Dobbs not coming here. Dobbs was not coming here - it was not a good fit, and that's why he says basically exactly that when asked. This was realized and Michigan moved on once it was apparent. I don't know why this is so hard to understand.

yossarians tree

February 4th, 2019 at 2:25 PM ^

Sure didn't seem like Michigan really pursued Dobbs all that hard. There has to be more to that story. And it sounds like Brown just really liked Wisconsin. Can't win 'em all.

Also I have a feeling that Michigan is very upfront with kids on what their values are and what expectations they place on guys in the program. Some kids just want to play football, have fun, and meet girls. Nothing terribly wrong with that but those type kids could be real turned off by what Michigan is selling and ultimately we would not want them anyway because they are probably not going to make it here.