The always interesting article about why you did or didn't choose the instate school or either instate school.
February 4th, 2019 at 11:50 AM ^
One of my favorites every year. It looks like Barnett already has the Disrespkt down so he will fit right in at MSU.
Edit: Also interesting to note there is not a whole lot nice said about Michigan and/or the coaching staff in this article.
February 4th, 2019 at 11:53 AM ^
I love kids feeling disrespected because they weren't offered when they think they should have been. Dude, any school could have called me the night before signing day and I would have been thrilled they thought enough to dial my number.
February 4th, 2019 at 12:11 PM ^
On the one hand they feel disrespected about not getting shown "the love" and on the other had they hate the process where they have to deal with "My phone blow up every day, really every minute of every day, getting pulled out of class to talk to coaches and stuff."
Teenagers.
February 4th, 2019 at 12:39 PM ^
The recruiting process is a bit like dating in HS. The one with the most options always has the power and often the one we want the most is the one we can't have.
February 4th, 2019 at 1:03 PM ^
Love = a legit scholi offer they can actually commit to, with any special requests that a recruit may/not have
February 4th, 2019 at 12:54 PM ^
Brian I appreciate how you turned your back on the real love that dad's school offered and came to fake love U where you earned that scholi and won us that MNC. You my friend are an example to all these youngsters
February 4th, 2019 at 11:53 AM ^
Michigan has an in-state recruiting problem. 0/4 on top 100 guys Brown, Dixon, Dobbs, and Barnett and already trailing for the top 2 players next year in Enzo Jennings and Justin Rogers. Those comments are the closest thing to outright disgust from prospects I've read. Deny it if you want, I won't.
February 4th, 2019 at 11:54 AM ^
My man Maizen, dropping the knowledge. SMH........
February 4th, 2019 at 11:55 AM ^
This came so quick we didn't have time to set odds and place bets!
February 4th, 2019 at 12:04 PM ^
Using his definition of outright disgust, I am going to say that Hei2man's comment isn't a great fit for me.
February 4th, 2019 at 12:16 PM ^
Seems like the usual comments that get made every year by the kids who didn't pick Michigan. You have kids who either grew up in anti-Michigan households or were told they were further down the board, or in the case of Brown had their recruitment flubbed by Drevno. Given the three hires the program just made, in-state recruiting will get back on track and you will find the new thing to wring your hands about.
February 4th, 2019 at 6:08 PM ^
I'm grateful that we're past the point where an MSU commit said M is selling tradition, MSU is selling results.
February 4th, 2019 at 1:33 PM ^
Dobbs was never coming and both knew it for a while.
Other than that this isn't anything too much out of the ordinary for this article. Michigan recruits more nationally and so isn't in on the in-state guys as much early, which means they are sometimes playing from behind later on.
They have some ground to make up after years of mediocrity as well and MSU's success during that period. It is what it is, the sky isn't falling.
February 4th, 2019 at 1:44 PM ^
Go work on the name for your next account, Shawn.
February 4th, 2019 at 11:56 AM ^
They all seemed pretty reasonable, even Barnett. Try to read without the maize colored glasses.
February 4th, 2019 at 12:17 PM ^
Barnett's was the only one I thought was a little too on the nose as far as manufacturing a chip on the shoulder. Otherwise, yeah, it's a personal decision for everyone involved.
February 4th, 2019 at 12:28 PM ^
After one of the comments above mine, I was expecting to think "sparty trash". Instead I thought "mouthy kid", which I was at 18 as well.
February 4th, 2019 at 12:01 PM ^
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February 4th, 2019 at 12:03 PM ^
The “coaches aren’t genuine and they don’t show the love” translates to “I’m sorry but we have several players ranked higher on our board right now but let’s keep in touch”.
February 4th, 2019 at 12:07 PM ^
No, Michigan wanted Dixon and Brown bad.
February 4th, 2019 at 12:27 PM ^
I would think we would have wanted both Dixon and Brown....probably Barnett as well. I am not sure Brown ever gave us a chance.
It would be interesting to listen in on the private discussions of this staff. One thing seems certain is they place a very high criteria on character, leadership, and work ethic.
This staff seems to be strong at talent evaluation. It also seems they missed on some kids in Michigan this past year. Nobody bats 1000.
February 4th, 2019 at 12:31 PM ^
Nobody bats 1.000 but they literally just went 0/4 on top 100 kids in 2019. They are currently trailing for the top 100 kids in 2020 and all but one in 2021. Not going to put lipstick on that pig. Nope.
February 4th, 2019 at 12:54 PM ^
I know math is hard for some people so let me help here. Batting .1000 is the same as batting .1, in other words, you are only hitting on 1 in 10 players.
No one bats a thousand comes from baseball’s peculiar way of discussing batting averages. 3 out of 10 is 0.3, or 0.300 - hence, he’s a “three hundred” hitter. Someone batting a thousand would be at 1.000.
February 4th, 2019 at 1:04 PM ^
This is like the math version of being a Grammar Nazi.
I dig.
February 4th, 2019 at 1:13 PM ^
Sure, but it is kinda oddly satisfying and batting 0.100 really isn't very good.
February 4th, 2019 at 3:55 PM ^
That’s below the Mendoza Line. Can we call .100 the Maizen Line?
February 4th, 2019 at 1:29 PM ^
LOL. That is simply not true. Michigan backed off of Dixon and Brown based on things that happened during their recruitment. They DID want those two bad early on in the process, but...well...things happen. I'll just leave it at that.
February 4th, 2019 at 1:43 PM ^
Fake news.
February 4th, 2019 at 2:12 PM ^
if you're right that its 'fake news', then prove it. mags is a trusted poster around here and his special gift is recruiting.
put up or shut up time.
February 4th, 2019 at 2:18 PM ^
Agree with XM here, it's time to see some links if you're going to flat contradict Magnus.
February 4th, 2019 at 2:24 PM ^
I mean, just from like a rhetorical "evidentiary" perspective, shouldn't it be Magnus who should have to come with a couple of links right now? I know Maizen is the worst, but Magnus is the one arguing the existence of things here, right, not Maizen. I know he is a trusted poster and Maizen is Maizen but I am detecting a little bit of burden-shifting here.
February 4th, 2019 at 2:36 PM ^
I agree that it's not really fair to hold one to a higher standard than the other, but I can't really go too in depth here. I'm not going to post details about stuff that would be deemed negative about high school kids.
On the other hand, both of us are claiming that there is STUFF. There should be proof that Michigan wanted them both badly (visits, tweets, etc.), too. I just can't say much more on my end.
I'll say this, and you guys can make of it what you want: the coaching staff was not greatly disappointed or surprised when those guys went in another direction.
February 4th, 2019 at 2:53 PM ^
No offense but I don't believe you. Sam Webb, Steve Lorenz, Allen Trieu, etc. none of them reported anything of the sorts regarding Brown or Dixon. Michigan wanted both badly and whiffed. It is what it is. Stop trying to rewrite history.
February 4th, 2019 at 7:08 PM ^
You're right that they didn't report that information, at least not that I know of. I didn't get it from them - or any website.
February 4th, 2019 at 3:39 PM ^
I at least have reason to believe Magnus has insider information.
With Maizen, it's just panic and run around screaming.
February 4th, 2019 at 3:39 PM ^
please interpret how this post from 2 months ago impacts the discussion here.
i note a number of 'arb lover' posts in the one you have tacked on here. coincidence?
February 4th, 2019 at 7:09 PM ^
I never said he was decommitting. I said I had information that he was interested in Maryland.
February 4th, 2019 at 12:07 PM ^
Eh, I don't know. Our offensive line has been......yeah... and the two highest ranked recruits in the state were offensive tackles who went elsewhere.
There are perfectly understandable reasons why that would happen but it certainly does make you flinch a little bit.
February 4th, 2019 at 12:19 PM ^
It was a weird year for in-state recruiting. I didn't get any RichRod at the tail end of his time vibes, just more weird reasons why there were a lot of uphill battles vibes.
February 4th, 2019 at 12:25 PM ^
Don't think it was weird at all. Lance Dixon's coach is former UM player Ron Bellamy. Belleville's coach Germain Crowell, despite all the message board nonsense that he hates UM is actually a huge UM fan and is the former Cass DC when they had guys like Jourdan Lewis, Delano Hill, Terry Richardson, etc. Logan Brown's teammate is committed here. Supposedly he was disappointed he wasn't offered by UM sooner. UW offered him as a freshman and had him at their camp every year. Dismissing this as a "weird year" is lazy and inaccurate. Michigan needs to get their house in order in-state because they can't survive if they keep whiffing on all the top players in Ohio and Michigan.
February 4th, 2019 at 12:33 PM ^
The top prospects in state were two HUGE Michigan State fans apparently. Logan Brown basically got Drevno'd and that problem has been fixed. As for the rest: Dixon just seemed to want to go out of state, Bradford was apparently a non-football thing, Ruke O. seemed like he wanted to blaze his own path(and a Clemson offer for a defensive lineman is going to turn heads), I then saw a LONG list of guys who weren't offered and the guy they really needed to get(Mazi Smith) they got.
So yeah, I'm calling it a weird year for in-state recruiting and I admit it was TERRIBLE timing for it to be a weird year for in-state recruiting, but weirdly sometimes you have bad luck.
Also let's be realistic, Michigan isn't getting the top players in Ohio for AT LEAST the next four or five years, no matter what they do and on field results are going to determine what happens after the next four or five years. If you have the expectation that Michigan is getting anyone out of Ohio that Ohio State wants as a plan A kid, you're going to be disappointed.
I have no idea why I'm debating you on this, maybe I have a foolish hope something will calm your hysteria.
February 4th, 2019 at 12:36 PM ^
More excuses for our $7 million dollar head coach. Nothing changes.
February 6th, 2019 at 12:33 AM ^
If you were wondering, this post is how we know you're Maizen.
February 4th, 2019 at 9:11 PM ^
Crowell has nothing to do with Dobbs not coming here. Dobbs was not coming here - it was not a good fit, and that's why he says basically exactly that when asked. This was realized and Michigan moved on once it was apparent. I don't know why this is so hard to understand.
February 4th, 2019 at 12:19 PM ^
I'm sorry, I just don't get this. They chose other schools, what could they say they really matters at this point? I loved Michigan, but I want to play at PSU, or MSU, or any other school, not name UM.
February 4th, 2019 at 2:25 PM ^
Sure didn't seem like Michigan really pursued Dobbs all that hard. There has to be more to that story. And it sounds like Brown just really liked Wisconsin. Can't win 'em all.
Also I have a feeling that Michigan is very upfront with kids on what their values are and what expectations they place on guys in the program. Some kids just want to play football, have fun, and meet girls. Nothing terribly wrong with that but those type kids could be real turned off by what Michigan is selling and ultimately we would not want them anyway because they are probably not going to make it here.
February 4th, 2019 at 4:47 PM ^
I think our coaches for the line are good now, but a guy committing to Wisconsin isn't exactly crazy on the O-line (they've sent/are sending plenty to the draft), especially with our previous coaching.
I'll also take Magnus' word for it that there was some other stuff.
February 4th, 2019 at 10:07 PM ^
Michigan didn't pursue Dobbs hard early on, and that set the tone for the rest of his recruitment. The blame for that one has mainly been placed on Tim Drevno.