Cook on WTKA now
January 13th, 2011 at 10:51 AM ^
But we had several surveys that supported about 1/3 wanted to keep RR, 1/3 wanted to fire RR and another 1/3 wasnt sure.
I you do a search, you can find that info.
January 13th, 2011 at 9:41 AM ^
He looks like an idiot now. No need for hypotheticals.
January 13th, 2011 at 10:04 AM ^
Jesus, dude. Chill out.
January 13th, 2011 at 9:30 AM ^
This is soooo true. I have done nothing but whined for 3 years. I feel like a two-year-old.
Sorry :(
January 13th, 2011 at 9:22 AM ^
To all 3 of you, some of us get it.
January 13th, 2011 at 9:28 AM ^
The change has been made.
Perhaps this blog should be renamed? RRgoblog? Spreadgoblog?
January 13th, 2011 at 9:52 AM ^
Right, because you've been a MGoMember through thick and thin since the blog began years ago and have the standing to make such a stupid suggestion. I'm not saying I've been a member for years, but neither have you and you have absolutely no standing to suggest how the blog be run. If you don't like it, do us all a favor and stop visiting.
January 13th, 2011 at 10:03 AM ^
No, new name should be MGoBitch&Moan.
January 13th, 2011 at 9:27 AM ^
is a whiny bitch that never liked the idea of hoke as coach. he is a rich apologist. this has nothing to do with rich. he's gone. quit bringing it up. it's old. i could care less if hoke is a good public speaker. i care about if he is a good coach. rich was not. that is why he is gone.
January 13th, 2011 at 9:29 AM ^
Then why don't you?
January 13th, 2011 at 9:32 AM ^
I never understood that saying. I am with you totally.
January 13th, 2011 at 9:39 AM ^
That's because it's "I couldn't care less."
January 13th, 2011 at 9:45 AM ^
I know it is, but more people say I could care less when they mean it like that, and they think they are right.
January 13th, 2011 at 11:05 AM ^
That's because people, by and large, are stupid. It certainly seems like UM Fan in NY may be counted among the majority.
January 13th, 2011 at 11:46 AM ^
Ha I would agree with that.
January 13th, 2011 at 9:46 AM ^
and he obviously has more important things to do today. Like whine about the "whiny bitch"/proprietor of this here sports blog. And. . .well? What else?
Small dogs bark in order to remind everyone that they are alive. It doesn't make them any more significant, just reminds us of how. . .small they really are.
January 13th, 2011 at 10:58 AM ^
Easy to say right now, while Hoke is still undefeated as Michigan's head coach. At this point, he can be everything we want him to be. I love his dedication to Michigan and that he wants nothing more than to be the head coach. As for wins and losses, it may be years before we know the real impact.
I support the team, and so I support the coach, plain and simple. That means I supported Rodriguez 100% as well, unlike a lot of the "whiny b*tches" (to use your words) that were not all in during the last few rough years. I supported Lloyd Carr, even though we usually were out of the national championship hunt by week three of the season, having lost to somebody (Notre Dame, UCLA, Washington, the Horror, etc.).
Rodriguez did not bring us as far as we, or he, wanted over the past three years, and the rebuilding process was cut short. There are many reasons for that, some of them his fault and some of them not his fault. Yet, he proved he is a good coach before coming to Michigan, he gave it his all, and he was treated like crap from day one by the many in the "old guard" and the media. We never will see what might have happened with 20 returning starters, a new defensive coordinator, etc.
So, just like we all need to come together and support the team and the new coach, why don't you just stop whining about the past. It's gone. Those teams lost a lot of games, but neither they nor Rodriguez ever gave up. They made me proud to be a Michigan fan, and I was and am still all in.
January 13th, 2011 at 10:13 AM ^
What's with the name calling ?
January 13th, 2011 at 9:18 AM ^
Is it possible to have a rough rundown of what Brian says? I am at work and would appreciate it. Thanks to whoever is listening to it.
January 13th, 2011 at 9:19 AM ^
Let RichRod go, I think. I loved the promise of the Spread, but I'm not sure the upside of that offense warranted stomaching the ineptitude of the defensive staff for another year.
January 13th, 2011 at 9:19 AM ^
He said Hoke may win conference championships but it will be harder than it was.
He won't win national championships or make us elite (brings up how USC Rose Bowl games against our teams of the past weren't close).
January 13th, 2011 at 9:25 AM ^
He's correct in his assessment - to date Hoke hasn't shown anything that would indicate he's a NC caliber coach. He's going to have to grow himself to get there. But he can.
January 13th, 2011 at 9:36 AM ^
I agree, but can't he grow elsewhere? I didn't think Michigan was a job that go to grow. We've shown by firing our past coach after just 3 years that we aren't interested in waiting for growth
January 13th, 2011 at 9:48 AM ^
I watched the SDSU bowl game, in which they did dominate Navy, and thought... good, let him keep going and if we need him in a few years, he's available
Wasn't a fan of the hire myself, but we've got to get on board. Brian will as well
January 13th, 2011 at 9:57 AM ^
This is exactly right. And I agree, I've got to get on board. I'm certainly not going to spend the next few years bitching about the coach. Hopefully he grows quickly and we return to our winning ways. It just kind of pisses me off that Rich Rodriguez didn't get the same patience/reception that it appears Hoke will get, but I suppose I should instead be happy that people are behind the new coach and just move on
January 13th, 2011 at 11:32 AM ^
in the past two weeks.
January 13th, 2011 at 9:45 AM ^
He does have a NC ring, albeit as an assistant, and so has been part of a program that has won one, and should know what it takes. He also does have multiple conference championship rings, and if you win enough of those, chances are you will play in the big one. He also has an undefeated regular season under his belt. So I do think there is some evidence suggesting that he has the potential for being a NC-caliber coach at UM. Did Chizik ever show anything prior to this year than Hoke? Other than that 1-11 season, of course?
January 13th, 2011 at 10:38 AM ^
Chizik was one of the top defensive coordinators in the country and one of the prime "hot candidates" for every coaching job for awhile. He bombed at Iowa State, then Auburn brought him in AND brought in high dollar, high quality coordinators with him.
Hoke's resume reminds me more of Greg Robinson than Gene Chizik. Was on the staff for teams that played very well and won national titles/super bowls in the distant past. Had middling success elsewhere. That's not to say Hoke will have the same success, or lack thereof, as Greg Robinson, but I think the resumes are more similar than Hoke and Chizik.
January 13th, 2011 at 9:56 AM ^
We fire a coach after three seasons and now we are going to alloy the new guy time to "grow"!?!?!? I didn't agree with the coaching change, but I am working on getting over it. However, when I hear arguements like this, I want to scream, It feels like everyone is ok with taking a step back purely on the potential of a step forward. Unfortunately, the qualifications of this potential so far are "He's a really good, tough guy." and "He gets what Michigan is all about." That's all the supporters of the change can come up with and I think that is what Brian is "whining" about. Just because you don't agree with his stance/opinion doesn't mean you can ignore the facts.
January 13th, 2011 at 10:06 AM ^
or my other comments during the search. I wasn't a fan of the hire. But just b/c fans/former players didn't allow RR time to grow, doesn't mean we shouldn't allow it for Hoke. 2 wrongs don't make a right, yo.
January 13th, 2011 at 9:35 AM ^
scholarship rules were changed. Hasn't been easy in over a decade.
January 13th, 2011 at 9:45 AM ^
is chuckling
January 13th, 2011 at 9:50 AM ^
Or at all kinds of complaince rules and test drives and tatoos and selling gold pants, and recruiting and...
January 13th, 2011 at 9:39 AM ^
Those losses to USC were generally more competitive then UM's losses to MSU, OSU, Wisconsin and PSU under RR, were they not?
Btw, USC was a team full of professionals, playing their bowl games against UM in a de facto home game. Using UM's Rose Bowl performances against USC is a terrible example of the standard to which UM should be held.
January 13th, 2011 at 9:50 AM ^
And with RR as our coach we were on a trajectory to win Big Ten Titles and National Championships?
January 13th, 2011 at 9:22 AM ^
Says the coaches let go were obviously well respected and elite seeing as how they both (Smith and Magee) got snatched up very quickly.
Says Hoke will not utilize denard as well as RR did (obviously).
Say this recruiting class will be the worst in 25 years (true as of now).
Says after Denard leaves then where does that leave us?
January 13th, 2011 at 9:23 AM ^
Yup. Joining that long line of University of Pittsburgh greats. What a history.
January 13th, 2011 at 9:44 AM ^
Exactly. Magee was an awful playcaller. Screen right, screen left, QB draw on third and long, punt. As an elite coach he would have put in option concepts with denard and failed to do that.
January 13th, 2011 at 10:13 AM ^
All Michigan did on offense was run on first down, run on second down, two WR receiver set on third down, punt.
The offense produced more big plays from scrimmage this past year than I can remember from the past 20. It was a Top 10 offense, which Michigan has *never* seen in the modern era.
You can knock them for not being able to score points in the red zone in big games, but the number of times this offense just made teams look silly...I think I will have to disagree with you on this one.
January 13th, 2011 at 12:57 PM ^
I agree they did have a lot of big plays you are right about that, but the only time they could sustain drives is when they played flawless against UConn. When we played legitimate competition from the Big Ten we could not sustain drives, and thus watched stall out after stall out every week. Go Blue
January 13th, 2011 at 10:42 AM ^
Take a deep breath before you post. You're looking more and more stupid as this goes along. Pittsburgh was a national powerhouse for years and years in the 70s (won more championships than Bo, who you mentioned many times in this thread) and has had some very good teams. As good as Michigan since the 70s? No, definitely not. But pretty darn good in their own right and potentially very good every year.
January 13th, 2011 at 9:42 AM ^
That leaves us with Donovan, I mean, Devin Gardner.
January 13th, 2011 at 9:50 AM ^
Smith and McGee are good coaches. Hasn't Gibson landed elsewhere as well. Now, If GERG lands this week, I will not know what to think.
Does anyone have an update as to where the RR coaches landed. Thanks, Much appreciated.
January 13th, 2011 at 10:29 AM ^
I thought I read that Gibson had landed at Pitt.
A quick search brought me to a West Virginia message board that spoke of the hire (in some very unflattering terms).
January 13th, 2011 at 10:02 AM ^
In my humble opinion he's going a bit overboard, and should give Hoke a chance. Hoke won't utilize Denard the same way because Hoke doesn't run the spread option. I'm sure DB knew this. The recruiting class will be the worst in 25 years because of RR. After Denard leaves where does that leave us? Who put us in the position to be reliant upon one player? RR. That said, this isn't an attack on RR. I'm very proud of the effort RR put in at Michigan. However, I, as well as others, believe Brian should relax a little on Hoke.
January 13th, 2011 at 10:17 AM ^
If UM is winning and Denard is the qb, then Denard is being utilized perfectly. Look at his high school stats. He was a passer first in high school.
I don't think its fair to the team to say that if Denard isn't rushing for 1500 yards a season, then coaches aren't using him properly.
January 13th, 2011 at 9:22 AM ^
If Brian heard the same press conference I did yesterday - and he isn't ready to run through a brick wall for this guy, think he needs to get on some happy pills.
Seratonin anyone?
And change the friggin' banner already - we have a head coach now.
Go Brady - GO BLUE!
January 13th, 2011 at 9:52 AM ^
The problem is that over the past 8 years, the brick walls have won more often than Hoke's team (50-47 in favor of brick walls). RR's players loved him too. Yet his defense was UNACCEPTABLE, rabble, rabble, rabble.
January 13th, 2011 at 10:00 AM ^
A' Freakin me dude. I was pissed off when I heard Hoke was hired. However, after cooling off and listening to the press conference I am All in for Hoke. I understand the hypocrisy of the carr cronies now supporting the coach when for three years they undermined Rich's tenure. I refuse to be like them and not support the coach just because I disagree with the hire. I did think DB underestimated the stalker level of our fan base during a coaching change. Therefore, Dave didn't realize his every move would be scruitinized. He should have fired Rich after the ohio state game and hired Brady quickly to save this class.
January 13th, 2011 at 9:22 AM ^
Hoke should not hire Al Borges... bring in someone who can utilize a running QB