Post Spring Practice Top 25 by CBS Sports

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https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/college-football-top-25… Four Big Ten teams in top 25, three in top 10.

 

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Way too damn early to mean anything.

Did not see any of the teams practice and it is way too damn early anyway.

Games are played for a reason (for cliche lovers).

But it is nice to see the Big Ten and in particular the East Division get national respect, meaningless as it is.

 

 

 

 

 

BigBlue02

May 1st, 2018 at 11:27 PM ^

But they had a bunch of players from the 2015 team that made the playoffs back in 2016 and they lost to us and got 3 wins. Can you let me know when a past season is relevant and when one isn’t? Also, if you’re going to use that shitty ass logic, you can say that we have all of our players back as well plus a new QB, which was the one area they were visibly better than us last year. So because we won’t lose the turnover battle by 5, that means we will will by about 3 scores. You’re a shitty poster. Be better.

WorldwideTJRob

May 2nd, 2018 at 3:34 AM ^

Look it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to see that 2016 season was an outlier! They were pretty good in the seasons before and played well in the season afterwards. They had some bad characters in the program that year, got rid of them and now look to be like the team they were before. Are they top 5? No, but I would bet they’re closer to the 10-3 team they were in 2017 than the 3-9 team they were in 2016.

I Just Blue Myself

May 2nd, 2018 at 12:36 PM ^

As we are well aware, the quarterback position is important. Connor Cook was the QB in 15, and he was pretty good. Some other guy was the QB in 16, and he was awful. Lewerke, in my opinion, looks pretty good. #5 seems high for them, but I wouldn't be surprised if they finished in the top 10. 

Squash34

May 2nd, 2018 at 2:56 AM ^

Anyone that watched that bowl game knows it was not a strong win. Wsu was missing pretty much all their skill position guys on offense, and the QB got hurt in the game. Their all American d tackle also missed the first half. Oh and there were several times the announcers were outspoken about how bad the officating was. Guess how many times it favored MSU? Every single time. They got incredibly fortunate that game, despite what the final score may have you believe... Just like they did in several games they won last year.

saveferris

May 2nd, 2018 at 7:22 AM ^

And seriously...has the "they're SO lucky!!" meme about Michigan State been beaten into the ground yet?
I don't know; I'm guessing it will fall by the wayside around the same time that lazy analysis focusing solely on wins and losses without accounting for any context, does.

DrMantisToboggan

May 1st, 2018 at 6:19 PM ^

I don't see them getting through their schedule with fewer than 3 losses. They are for sure losing to us and OSU. They will lose at least one, if not more, from at Arizona State, at Indiana, at Penn State, Purdue, at Maryland, at Nebraska. Gun to my head I am guessing 8-4 for MSU this year, which would probably see them finish outside the Top 25.

DrMantisToboggan

May 1st, 2018 at 7:34 PM ^

Losing to a team after saying that they aren't great does not mean you underestimated them. We put the worst offensive performance I have ever seen on the field that day. Many teams, including mediocre ones, would have beaten us that day.

 

Edit: also LOL at the implication that what we are saying on here affects how the team plays.

Squash34

May 2nd, 2018 at 3:10 AM ^

We had -5 turn over margin and they scored 14 points and win by 4, why are people acting like they were clearly better? They got lucky to win that. There is no other way to spin it. If you have a +5 turn over margin and sin by 4... You are not the better team, you got lucky to win against the better team. A few years ago bama lost to ole miss. It was the crazy game where ole miss also had a 5-0 turn over margin. Guess what everyone said?? Bama beat themselves and ole miss got very lucky. Because you are always very lucky in that situation. If two teams are equal but one has a +5 turn over margin you expect that team to win by about 3-4 scores. If the team is better and has that margin, they win by forty+. If the team is worse, but not drastically so, they win by less than one TD. That game was pretty much I microcosm of their season too. Catching a bunch of breaks to win by pretty slim margins. Maybe they will be that lucky, they were in 15 too, but if the bounces break even this year they are a 7 or 8 win team.

MileHighWolverine

May 2nd, 2018 at 11:51 AM ^

There was zero implication that what we are saying on here affects how the team plays in my comment. Just that we as a fan base seem way too confident in our favorite teams ability to get it done against MSU. Maybe we, as a fan base, should stop doing that until the team beats MSU a few times.... because you look stupid when you talk shit to an opponent who regularly beats you even when their team, on paper, is vastly inferior.

Eng1980

May 1st, 2018 at 8:16 PM ^

However, the MSU win over Indiana last year was the biggest rip-off since the referees handed  MSU the win in Ann Arbor three years ago.  As an aside, the MSU running back was too stupid to notice that Indiana was letting him score so they could get the ball back while down by 8 with a few seconds left.  Sparty takes a knee and the game is over but no, he scores.

Given MSU's luck, I am wondering if it will be four consecutive years that Michigan is assessed a bogus/unwarranted unsportsmanlike conduct/personal foul.  Are the referees briefed on Spartan behavior before the game?

DrMantisToboggan

May 1st, 2018 at 7:09 PM ^

I very much disagree that their OOC schedule is garbage. They start with a solid bowl team last year in Utah State and then go to Arizona State in what will be a night game, in blistering heat, in the first big game of Herm's tenure. Then they have a bye, go to Indiana (who they nearly lost to last year and who they did lose to two years ago), then come home to CMU, again, a bowl team last year. I don't know that that's treachorous, but it's certainly not a cakewalk.

 

They should get through that stretch 4-0. However, it's just tricky enough that nothing between 4-0 and 2-2 would shock me. At ASU and at Indiana is a tougher two game stretch than home against WMU and SMU is.

DrMantisToboggan

May 1st, 2018 at 7:28 PM ^

Sure, but road Power 5 game against team that won 7 games and beat Washington last year. Hoke was a doofus too, and he still won 11 games his first season. First year coaches often overfperform because the team is hyped up, galvinized by the change.

Mike Damone

May 1st, 2018 at 6:18 PM ^

From 2017:

3 Starting Offensive Linemen - 2 of them within the top 10 picks in Round 1 of the NFL Draft (Nelson and McGlinchey) - gone

Best RB (Adams), WR (St. Brown) and TE (Smythe) - gone

5 Starters on Defense - gone

We are going to crush their asses on September 1st!

DrMantisToboggan

May 1st, 2018 at 9:51 PM ^

Tranquil and Bonner are both back and will start. Martini was definitely a contributor last year but I'm not sure if he was a starter. Their starters were Tranquil, Coney, and Morgan, Martini may have been a heavy rotational guy? Not sure, his tackles increased by 20 from 2016 to 2017 so he certainly played a ton, but not sure if he was a bona fide starter.

DrMantisToboggan

May 1st, 2018 at 10:10 PM ^

Yeah Our Lads is shoddy. I appreciate their attempts as I selficiously wish all teams put out depth charts (but I understand why they don't), but they're often off on a couple guys per team.

 

I agree that we will win going away though.

njvictor

May 1st, 2018 at 5:34 PM ^

Still confused on how people can be so high on Penn St after the departures of Moorehead and Barkley. That's 2 major reasons why their offense was so successful gone. At this point, their team is probably less proven their ours. MSU at #5 is just kinda funny. They're a good team, sure, but #5? 

njvictor

May 1st, 2018 at 5:57 PM ^

So why are people so high on them? McSorely is good, but certainly cannot carry the team by himself. People just kinda expect all their major holes that have appeared this off season to magically be filled with personnel who are as good or better than Moorehead, Barkely, Gesicki and DaeSean Hamilton