Belleville coach Jermain Crowell mad at UM again
This time it appears to be over Zordich's comments in the press regarding LaVert Hill.
I'll say this I've never seen a State coach publicly question a kids toughness from Detroit. Especially a kid who played a entire season hurt the year before.
— CoachJermain Crowell (@JermainCrowell) April 19, 2018
As a matter of fact I've not seen a coach from anywhere else in the country ever do that. Not just State but anywhere. I find that very interesting.
— CoachJermain Crowell (@JermainCrowell) April 19, 2018
Never in the public eye!!! There needs to be a trust amongst coach and player. I see no way that a player can trust a coach who publicly questions your toughness. Interesting situation. I'm just watching.
— CoachJermain Crowell (@JermainCrowell) April 19, 2018
Right, but if you are a former coach, parent or whatever you aren't helping the kid here. You help the kid by supporting and encouraging him and then having a conversation with the staff if you really think it is necessary. How does his twitter rant further that purpose? It doesn't, it furthers his own selfish agenda.
doesn't mean he isn't a big State fan
coaches hating schools/coaches happens - it is partly why Shane Simon went to Notre Dame over Michigan
you assess the situation and if you know there is no way it is going to change you move on - ultimately that is what our coaches have to asses and determine
Crowell coached Delano Hill and Jourdan Lewis at Cass Tech, he had plenty of love for Michigan in the past. I suspect he's known Lavert since he was a little boy and that's why he's taking this approach.
Crowell is a Wilcher protoge. Not sure why the love for MSU.
I have heard that Dobbs and Barnett grew up fans of MSU and both never cared for Michigan. That's probably why we aren't in it for them, some kids grow up rooting against a team and we haven't exactly been a powerhouse that either of them could remember in their lifetimes. It's a shame since they are so close to Michigan Stadium.
And one of the next 5 star recruits from this state is a DT from Belleville, Payne. We want in on a 5 star DT in our back yard and we will need to develop abetter relationship with his coach. I also think that we should have pursued Davion Williams from Belleville for our 2018 class, Crowell says he's the best athlete he's ever coached (Note from above, he has coached multiple NFL guys).
April 19th, 2018 at 10:36 AM ^
Crowell does like MSU, regardless of being a Wilcher protoge. I recognize this will hold very little weight coming from some random poster you don't know (and frankly I don't blame you), but I know someone who is very close with him and who he has shared these types of opinions with. It's nothing that can't be overcome, but these type of situations don't help.
April 19th, 2018 at 12:10 PM ^
Those kids came here in spite of Crowell, not because of him. He is probably the reason why MSU was able to get in to Cass in the first place, if it wasn't for Wilcher, I would bet all those kids would have went to MSU. A high school coach can be a huge influence, look at how long we were locked out of King in Detroit.
April 19th, 2018 at 11:51 AM ^
Um, he's talking about Lavert Hill. Who went to Detroit King. And Crowell used to coach at Cass Tech and I believe Harper Woods.
Vert played at Cass Tech for 3 years before he transferred to King for his senior season. So Crowell would have been his coordinator for 2 years.
He also has a history of coaching up some excellent cornerbacks.
Please explain when he's been a hothead. Please?
A good friend is a DII basketball coach and he often complains about athelets who can't practice because of 'injuries' yet they manage to feel better just in time to practice before the next game. He he tells them playing and practicing when it hurts is what makes you a stronger player and person. Don't confuse hurt with injured.
There's a reason Zordi has the job he has and Crowell is coaching HS.
Tough love teaches better life lessons and these coaches have to consider the entire team, not just each individual.
I'll always remember Jermain dropping passes in the endzone for the Lions.
GO BLUE!
I'm not sure if this was a joke or not, but that is not the same Jermain/Germane Crowell as the guy who played for the Lions.
I was throwing shade at Jermain (or making an attempt to do so)
Coach has the passive-aggressive game down cold. Bonus points for using "interesting" multiple times. I'd probably have more respect if he just said what he actually thinks and even more respect if he would address his concerns to the coaching staff instead of this crap.
He thinks he's more important than what he is.
It kind of sucks because he's petty enough to block his players from certain schools and if you don't bow to him and his players you won't be getting in their good graces. There was already plenty of smoke he had been blocking UM for a while. Hopefully Pep can cool him down. He sounds high maintenance.
I agree with the Belleville coach. One of the major problems of football, especially amateur football is that it preaches this shit like toughness of playing through injuries. If you are in pain your body is telling you something is wrong. If you play through that pain to "prove" your toughness you could be doing long term damage to your body that will make your life miserable in your 40s and 50s and up. Its also the sort of shit that leads to pain killer abuse and why so many football players smoke weed despite being aware of the consequences. Zordich's comments about toughness and playing through injury is what is wrong with football and putting individual players on blast like that in the public is a bad way to go about it.
the flip side is missing time allows someone else to take your job and football players have a short shelf life
as Bill Parcells once said, the most important ability is availability
Except everyone knows Hill and Long are our two best CB's and are going to play in the fall if they are healthy.
Shit like this being put out in public is going to come up when they are looking to get drafted, playing through injury is going to impact their quality of life and Zordich is pushing them in public because its his future on the line he cares more about than theirs. I'll never get on a player, especially one not getting paid for looking out for themselves and doing what they believe to be the best for their future.
So what injury does Hill have? Zordich said - clearly - that the trainers haven't found anything, and that Hill can run short plays all day. But on long runs, he complains about something hurting, but can't identify what the problem is. Zordich also said this seems like something that could be played through - meaning (to me) that if a game happened tomorrow, Hill would play. The reporter took it elsewhere, not Zordich.
I don't see anything wrong with anything Zordich said, and I bet it finally gets Hill's attention. Because if you think this just came up, out of thin air, at a press conference, then you're kinda special...
How should I know what the injury or pain is? But my point is that it should never come out at a press conference. Ever. It should be handled internally. If they don't think he is tough enough to play football don't play him. Don't shit on a kids toughness publicly which also has the potential to harm their future earnings. Its a shitty way to go about things and it was a shitty way to do it last year.
Injuries and pain shouldn't be discussed by coaches about players. Say Hill hasn't been practicing, say they are working through it, deal with it internally, its not that hard.
April 19th, 2018 at 10:44 AM ^
Guys are openly and admittedly skipping scheduled college football games for their schools in order to avoid injury and it's not affecting their draft position. That's the least tough thing a player can do - to voluntarily quit his team. Nobody is going to ding Hill or anybody else because of a Junior year Spring Practice injury of debatable severity. He's fine. We're fine. Zordich is fine.
Jermain Crowell is a Spartan fan. I don't know what happened, but he doesn't like Michigan. It's going to be an uphill battle to win Belleville kids for as long as he's there. And if he's going to come out publicly and rip Michigan staffers for such an innocuous comment by Lavert Hill's position coach, then he's a fucking ball bag and we don't need him in our life.
Fuck Crowell. Fuck Belleville. It's one single school in a state generally lacking big time prospects. They may be hot this year, but they'll have down years and that coach is burying his players' chances of playing for the top institution in their home state. It's an idiotic stance by Crowell. There is not one part of me that wants Zordich or Jim Harbaugh or anybody else with a block M kissing this guy's ass. The crying of "How are we ever going to beat MSU without players from Belleville High School?" is pathetic. Hilarious in its absurdity. Blackball that school immediately.
April 19th, 2018 at 12:18 PM ^
Hell yea, Fuck Crowell and Fuck Belleville. I am right there with you and I have friends with kids that go school there and like the school. But the coach is a hardcore Spartan, much more than he shows publicly. He actions need to have consequences, we don't need them. No offers for Belleville kids going foward.
April 19th, 2018 at 10:42 AM ^
April 19th, 2018 at 10:14 AM ^
Between playing hurt and playing injured. Sometimes you need to be tough, but you'd know nothing about that.
Also this isn't going to help with in state recruiting either which is shitty with a stacked in state class. Obviously not going to get Dobbs now.
and if we didn't know why before, we certainly do now
April 19th, 2018 at 10:21 AM ^
I think Crowell's attitude toward Michigan is either the cause of his players coolness to Michigan or it's a reaction to Michigan's coolness to them. Either way, for whatever reason, it appears Belleville is whatever you'd call the opposite of a Pipeline.
Notice we're not hearing from the MLK or Cass Tech coaches on this.
Just said its a shitty year to have a bad in state year. Dobbs is a top 10 national recruit at a position of need. We lost another in state top 100 linemen at a position of need to wisconsin and as of right now might not get a single top 10 player in the state in a year where Michigan actually has some nationally ranked guys. Its not sky is falling but it sure as shit isn't ideal to have the coaches of king and belleville pissed off at your school considering they are two of the top producing talent schools in the detroit area and cass tech has sent as many top players to osu as they have michigan over the last 5 years so its not quite the lockdown pipeline you'd like it to be either.
April 19th, 2018 at 12:22 PM ^
So what is your solution? You want Harbaugh to go suck this Sparty's dick? You want Zordich to change his coaching style? You can kiss his ass all you want and he will still steer kids away from here. You just gotta ignore him and his kids and go after the ones you have a fair shot with.
April 19th, 2018 at 10:52 AM ^
April 19th, 2018 at 12:23 PM ^
No, that is not how we got kids from King. We got kids because the last coach retiired and passed away.