Big Ten officiating is atrocious

Submitted by Maizen on

16 penalties for 141 yards on Michigan and many of them of the dubious variety compared to 5 for 55 yards on IU. Multiple uncalled holds, multiple uncalled pick plays, multiple uncalled intentional groundings. Either big ten refs are incompetent or corrupt but the result is the same. Refs nearly handed IU the game. Not saying UM played perfect (they clearly didn't), but that was bad. 

UPDATE: BTN just said the 16 penalties is an all time record. 

ST3

October 14th, 2017 at 4:28 PM ^

Threw a hissy fit, immediately got a makeup call and then the officials swallowed their whistles for IU. I don't get it. A rookie coach at IU gets to intimidate and work refs but if Harbaugh tries that he draws a basketball foul for being a meanie. I don't get it. Why does everybody hate us? /s that last part.

jim4blue

October 14th, 2017 at 4:32 PM ^

just rewatched the final play in OT, Lavert Hill stretches out Cobb's jersey for him.  Nice to know the refs were looking elsewhere besides IU's best wideout.....whew.

Catchafire

October 14th, 2017 at 4:34 PM ^

We deserved most of those calls... We are a young team, not disciplined. This happens. The Crawford penalty... He needs to control himself. Shit like that costs games in close ones like this.

sleeper

October 14th, 2017 at 4:35 PM ^

in officiating is what's frustrating, you look at the last hit on their QB in OT and tell me how that was any different than the one they called on Hurst earlier. Neither of which were even close to a penalty.

Squash34

October 14th, 2017 at 7:06 PM ^

That's the thing. He was not called for roughing in the Clemson game. And that dude drove him into the ground far more than Hurst tackle. Michigan simple gets called for shit I never get seen called on other teams. It is crazy. I watch football all Saturday, mostly on 3 screens flipping back and forth. I see players throw the ball to the ground after plays that make the refs ho get it several times a weekend. Yet, Perry is the only one I have seen flagged.

Zenogias

October 14th, 2017 at 4:36 PM ^

Haven't watched it on TV yet, so I only have my view from the stands to go on. Officiating was definitely bad, but we definitely got away with some stuff too; Hill was definitely holding on his pick, and I was surprised it wasn't called. FWIW, I thought the non-calls for grounding were correct. That said, I don't dispute the premise in general: B1G refs are bad.

Zenogias

October 14th, 2017 at 5:00 PM ^

Yeah, I don't know if the TV angle will show it, but it was right in front of me, and Hill definitely had a fistful of jersey and gave it a sizable tug, enough that it's usually called, imo. I don't really have a problem with this. Playing CB at the college level seems to be all about pushing the boundaries of what you can get away with, because the refs can't call it all. In that sense, job well done.

BlueMk1690

October 14th, 2017 at 4:44 PM ^

But it's not typically bias. It's the fact that in every sport at the highest level pretty much the refs are the least prepared, least focused participants in the game.

1VaBlue1

October 14th, 2017 at 4:44 PM ^

That long pass to Crawford in the 3rd that fell incomplete.  Fant held down Carwford's left arm such that it was behind his back when the ball dropped.  So, with the ball getting close, the WR turns and jumps, raises his right hand for the ball, and leaves his left hand on his butt.  Yeah, clean play.  Whatever...

They showed one replay, and Huard talked about the need to make plays for 5 minutes.  Brutal...

Esterhaus

October 14th, 2017 at 5:15 PM ^

Definitely seem to have involved themselves in the game more than in the past. Last season was atrocious and they appeared to target Jim and our team. There are dubious calls this season but I can see why majority of the questionable infractions are flagged.

A player plays how he practices, and I suspect our pro-level coaches have been letting questionable techniques go and they may even be encouraging these at some positions given a coach's background. I've witnessed questionable calls against our opponents, too.

Today's 16 or whatever flags accepted and assessed against Michigan were hardly all bad calls by the officiating crew. Which should not be interpreted that I did not at times consider taking up zebra hunting just so I gain a bit of karmic revenge.

Dorothy_ Mantooth

October 14th, 2017 at 4:49 PM ^

instead of simply spiking the ball on the snap, the IN QB just sailed the ball out of bounds - nowhere near a receiver, and obviously just downing the ball... silly question, but since he was still in the "pocket" ("tackle box") area - why was that not intentionally grounding?

the whole intentional grounding rule is rather kooky to me, a QB can take a snap and throw it into the ground - sure he's not bring pressured and throwing to avoid a sack...but he truly is 'intentionally grounding the ball'

silver-lining: if today's strategy was: 1) try to get PSU over-confident for next week's game, and/or 2) NOT to 'show PSU anything' (to plan/scheme for) with regard to UM's offense, ...i'd say mission accomplished.

Blue Durham

October 15th, 2017 at 4:23 PM ^

that was how QBs stopped the clock, by throwing it out of bounds immediately. It didn't have to be too near a receiver, and was never called grounding because, like spiking the ball, it was understood that the intent was to stop the clock, not prevent a loss of ground. The Indiana QB just old-schooled it. Totally legit.

LSAClassOf2000

October 14th, 2017 at 4:51 PM ^

I guess I should consider an officiating snowflakes thread in the future, since we get a thread like this after nearly every conference game now. If nothing else, they rarely get as involved as the complaints about officiating during basketball season. I am simply trying to cut down on things to monitor so closely, that's all.