Speight vs Peters: Final Spring Practice
I know this conversation will probably drag on for a while and it's still purely speculation at this point, so if you're already over it don't read any furter.
With that said, although I do still think Speight is probably #1 on the depth chart right now due to age, experience, and a number of quality games last year (with some bad ones too), based on what I've seen so far in the spring, and in particularl the last spring practice video, Peters looks way better than Speight.
Speight often threw to one WR without looking at other options. Speight often through into traffic or good coverage, rarely completed his passes, and did not use any head, eye, or ball fakes to decieve his intentions to the defense.
Peters on the other hand looked sharp, completed most of his passes, and found open recievers quickly. Caveots apply. I don't know who was playing defense on those recievers or even who most of the recievers were at the time other than the TEs that were easy to spot. And, it wasn't live so the QBs knew they weren't going to get hit. But, based on what I'm seeing this spring, Peters may be our guy next year unless there is a big swing in how these guys are performing in practice. I don't see Harbaugh as the kind of coach to just give it to Speight based on last year if he's being out-performed by Peters in practice.
For those who haven't seen the video, here's the link from Scout:
http://www.scout.com/college/michigan/story/1774977-watch-u-m-s-final-s…
April 30th, 2017 at 12:57 PM ^
It's interesting to note that when he was at Stanford, Harbaugh started Tavita Pritchard in 2008 while Andrew Luck redshirted. Then, even though Pritchard returned in 2009, Harbaugh started Luck over him as a redshirt freshman.
Speight was significantly better last year than Pritchard ever was, and it's ridiculous to compare Peters to Luck. My only point is that Harbaugh has a history of allowing new guys to start over returning starters if they've earned it.
Harbaugh will put in the player he thinks will win the most games. Even if it takes a couple games to get rolling. If he puts in Speight, then that's awesome. It will mean that Speight has improved and is ready. If he puts in Peters, then that's awesome too. It will mean that Peters has improved and is ready. It's really that simple.
"Rarely completed his passes"
He was the second ranked QB in the Big Ten. The fuck? And that, with our O-line last year. Recency bias is a real thing I guess.
Speight's ability to improvise and keep a play alive, combined with his command of the offense will keep him in the #1 spot. This year at least. Peters will get some game action and valuable experience this year, setting himself up for at least two years running the offense.
Patience, dude.
That was in reference to the video clip linked, not last year.
The spring game is a practice really. Knowing he has regressed from watching one practice (one data point) is, well, absurd.
Not even one practice. We basically watch a few minutes of highlights.
I didn't question his decision to play Speight last year. The decision hasn't been made for next year yet. I am merely providing discussion about who it could eventually be. Can you see the difference between those two things? Do you think a message board is not an appropriate place to discuss who might be the starters in the fall?
I am genuinely confused by how genuinely confused you are about this thread.
Did you read your own thread? You literally started a thread saying you think Speight is qb1 on the depth chart but that Peters is clearly the better qb based on practice film that was filmed from a worthless angle to evaluate. There is a reason game film is shot from an elevated anlgle in the endzone.
So if you think the wrong guy is running with ones are you not questioning Jim Fucking Harbaugh?
I said:
1. Speight is #1 on the depth chart right now.
2. What I saw in the video from practice (Speight bad, Peters good)
3. Peters MAY be our guy next year UNLESS their practice performances change (with a bunch of caveots)
Nothing in there is arguing with Jim Fucking Harbaugh.
Glad we have multiple options and a great coach to call all the right shots no matter what happens.
In Harbaugh we trust!
player on any team is the second string QB.
Trust in Harbaugh. He will be on a high all year thanks to Rome.
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There's a big difference between practice time and game time. I wouldn't want Peters' first in game experience to be against Florida's defense. They would absolutely tee off on him.
I don't know about the "teeing off" part, but I do think your analysis is going to be the way it goes barring injuries.
Speight was not the issue. It was a line that couldn't push for a first down to give the QB a break.
If it really was just a QB issue, then every team in the B10 should just give up because I don't see any Andrew Lucks in the league.
Why is it always the same thing with this blog?. The truth is stated and then someone is negged for it. You forgot about him fumbling at the two yard line at osu. You just can't do that. I have no idea who is going to start but you can clearly see who the most talented QB is. The truth is Harbaugh has to decide if talent triumphs over experience.
I also recall reading an article prior to the IN game where it said, "O'korn would get the start over the injured Speight." But I'm not going to the injury in the IA game. Harbaugh doesn't have to decide if talent triumps experience. His decision is which player gives us the best chance to win the football game each and every weekend. This kid of reminds me of Carr, certainly not a qb guru like Harbaugh, but he did a good job with them, sending a number of them into the NFL. Yet all during Navarre's time as our starter, numerous fans, daiily, would suggest that someone else should start. I thought then, and I think its just as dumb now if anyone thinks the HC of Michigan is going to trot someone out to start at qb that he does not believe gives us the best chance to win. And actually keeping his job is so far down on the list, I don't think it would even come up as to just how dumb this thought is. Jim Harbaugh, just like any coach in the U.S. at any level is going to play the best 11 on both sides of the ball. All coaches, depending on the level, don't know who these are. Believe me, he does. Cannot even fathom doubt to the contrary.
Especially with another patchwork offensive line with no more talent and less experience than last year, and a very young defense. Speight is not a QB who can carry a team, make the difference against a tough opponent, or keep us from losing at least one game that we shouldn't. He is not a threat to run like so many other championship-level QBs, and his passing (after 4 years of practice and coaching) is nowhere near good enough to make up for that deficiency in really big games.
1. Harbaugh will decide the starter.
2. Anything can happen, and if it does, we all want the backup to be pretty good too.
3. Refer to number 1.
If it was simply arm talent and potential, Shane Morris would have won the job over Rudock.
might as well set him now so we go into '18 with a qb with a year under his belt. Only logical
Dude, they ARE going to try to win this year's games before worrying a whole lot about next year.
"Way better" is an absurd assumption to make given the limited amount of video. Harbaugh and company chart every throw. They will know who the right QB will be. Starting a QB prematurely (or when they are not ready) can also kill development. E.g. Devin Gardner
Nick Baumgardner, who actually witnessed the practices, basically said Speight is still better at this point.
There is still an opportunity for Peters to seize the job, but I can't see how a "way better" hot take is even possible.
College four years ago and, suffice it to say, they were all anything but athletic.
Speight has everything you'd want in a starting QB. Everything except the undeniable arm talent. Arm talent is what Peters has. But he will have to build up to attain the other intangibles. Speight will be the man this year, unless he starts throwing INT's.