Lewis vs Woodson: whose iconic INT was better?

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  • Rivalry game vs Top-15 team on the road
  • One handed, dynamic grab where he left the ground like a rocket 
  • Got the one foot in bounds

  • Game-clincher
  • vs Top-10 team at home
  • One-handed, backhanded
  • Flew through the air for 5 yards, almost floating

Mr. Elbel

October 2nd, 2016 at 2:53 PM ^

Yeah telling people that they can't debate something because they weren't alive to see it is stupid. we can all see woodson's int. we all know the implications of it. the fact that any spectacular int has to essentially answer to that one speaks for itself. but lewis' was in a different situation, and it's fun to compare. game clinching int that maybe saves a TD if it's not caught or especially if he whiffs v. ridiculous circus catch way up in the air in a blowout of a good team in a game we already had a million ints in. If you don't like it then you don't have to click on the thread, but I think this is fun. deal with it.

Darker Blue

October 2nd, 2016 at 1:17 PM ^

Woodson, but its closer than most of these guys think. That pick by Lewis was infreakingcredible. Woodson's play is probably the best play I've ever seen in a football game, but Lewis isn't that far behind. 

bluepow

October 2nd, 2016 at 1:18 PM ^

Lewis' was amazing because he jumped a bit early, Woodson's was amazing because he did everything perfect.  It is of course fabulous to even be having this conversation.  Beautiful things.

kawter

October 2nd, 2016 at 1:20 PM ^

Technically JD's catch seems more difficult, but it being 4th down and against an opponent that really isn't a contentious game makes Woodson's more iconic.



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jmblue

October 2nd, 2016 at 1:26 PM ^

Lewis's is awesome but Woodson's has the highest degree of difficulty of any interception I've ever seen.   He doesn't have time to track down a ball that falls in his direction.  He is close to the line of scrimmage and makes a sudden, perfectly timed reaction to a ball that Schultz was trying to throw away - and gets inbounds.

A better view:

 

Eskimoan

October 2nd, 2016 at 1:24 PM ^

that JD pick is just,unreal, I can't stop watching it, it's like he literally flew . Always loved the Woodson int but the Lewis one is just unbelievable

Njia

October 2nd, 2016 at 1:25 PM ^

Lewis's INT yesterday was great, and both were incredibly acrobatic; but it was on 4th down against an opponent who had been all but beaten already. Woodson's INT against MSU was on the road, on the sideline, at a pivotal moment of the game. In terms of their sheer value in affecting the outcome, it has to be Woodson's.

LSA Superstar

October 2nd, 2016 at 1:27 PM ^

I think Lewis's interception is the most amazing pick I've ever seen.

BTW - this probably belongs in a snowflake thread, but I want to share it here instead.  Viewing this in the stands, most fans seemed upset that he didn't knock it down.  I don't think attempting to bat the ball was the appropriate play under the circumstances.

Link:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwZwFfsr8YA

It's 4th and 10.  Wisconsin has elected to go for the touchdown instead of the first down, and has told Rushing, positioned in the backfield outside of the split end, to run a fly with Robert Wheelwright (the split end) running a post from the line of scrimmage.  Thomas has either deep thirds or deep halfs coverage, with McCray lined up on Wheelwright.  Lewis has Rushing.

At the play, Rushing slips his route behind Wheelwright's.  McCray plays this like a boss and keeps inside Wheelwright step-for-step - the moment Wheelwright reveals that he's got the post, McCray feels secure because Hornibrook has nowhere to put the football.  Inexplicably, however, Thomas (minus fucking 1) has decided that Wheelwright is the biggest threat on the play and completely sells out on covering that route.  The effect is that Lewis is one on one with Rushing without any safety help whatsoever.  And Lewis knows that because he's playing proper technique - behind and inside his man with eyes upfield - and probably silently cursing Thomas while he stares at his nameplate and his back.

The other thing Lewis sees?  Hornibrook, who never looks off Rushing from the moment Wheelwright breaks on his post and McCray has removed him from the play.  So Lewis now knows that one of three things can happen:  (1) Hornibrook throws a bad pass and the game is over.  (2) Hornibrook throws a catchable ball and he needs to get a PBU or a INT.  (3) Hornibrook throws a catchable ball and Wisconsin scores a TD.

Hornibrook throws the ball, and Lewis watches him do so.  It's not a moonshot arc where only Rushing can catch it, but it's quite literally the next best thing - a fluttery soft pitch/catch where Rushing can grab it in stride.  One slight wrinkle - it's going to Rushing's back shoulder instead of inside.  Rushing will need to adjust to grab it, but if he does it's a touchdown, yo.

Lewis (who, remember, is playing inside and behind his man) knows now that his "choice" isn't really a choice at all - make a play on the ball or lose the game.  But because he's inside and behind his man but the pass is outside and away, slapping away at the football has dire potential consequences - if the ball is popped up in the air, Rushing could very well make a great play on it because it's probably going to shoot up in the air towards the visitor's sideline, which is the very place Rushing has to adjust to catch the ball anyway.  So now the only 'safe place" to bat the ball is inside and upfield... which is precisely where Jourdan is in relation to Rushing.

So Lewis elevates, gets a hand on the ball (!!!), and now needs to catch it and keep it from going behind him (which is to say upfield and towards the sideline).  In the act of doing so, he has cradled it against his hip.  So now the only way to turn this into a PBU is to actively try and "drop" it, which risks either giving Rushing some weirdo bounce shot at making an Immaculate Reception, or risks giving the shitty officials the opportunity to decide that he fumbled.

So just hold on, young man.  Don't worry about the optimally effective choice given the down and distance.  You made an appropriate business decision, considering all involved parties.  In the process, you made one of the greatest interceptions of all time, and you just won the damn game.

Bo Glue

October 2nd, 2016 at 2:17 PM ^

though I think you oversell the chance they win based on that play. It didn't look entirely catchable, and even if he got six that just gives UW a chance to tie or go for two with some time left on the clock. I'm glad he made the play. It was entertaining and awe inspiring. But while a catch likely would have resulted in a score, that doesn't mean a sure win by any means.

LSA Superstar

October 2nd, 2016 at 2:30 PM ^

Rewatch the video.

I acknowledge there's a chance that Rushing simply drops the football, but Hornibrook does a great job putting the football in the second-most effective place he could have.  If Rushing doesn't bork the catch that's six and we have a tie game... unless they went for two.

Mr. Elbel

October 2nd, 2016 at 3:07 PM ^

I honestly think this is why most think the Woodson catch is better. you have to explain why it was so difficult for lewis' catch. with woodson's, all you have to say is "he tried to throw it away but instead Woodson caught it and got a foot in bounds." not that you couldn't break that play down too, but it's just more simplistic of an explanation and I don't think many can get passed that.

UMForLife

October 2nd, 2016 at 1:28 PM ^

JD is a lot shorter than Charles. Just for that I would like that put that up there with Charles'. I just cannot put it above Charles'. That was an incredible catch by Charles at a key moment against a rival. And look at the elevation he gets. Proud to have two great secondary players.

uncle leo

October 2nd, 2016 at 1:34 PM ^

Another thing I have seen mentioned in this thread was the throw by the MSU QB was a rope that Charles had to catch basically 15 yards away, and Hornibrook's was a flippin duck. Lewis had a great pick, but it's not all that close.

BlueBayou

October 2nd, 2016 at 1:34 PM ^

Woodson's pick required him to one hand high point the ball against the sideline for a throw the quarterback was trying to make unreachable because he was throwing it away. The degree of difficulty is off the charts here based on just the play. While JD's was impressive, it has been done before and he added to the degree of difficulty by jumping too early.

So in my opinion, the play that tested the defender to his limits should win out. That has to be Woodson's pick because had he made a mistake at any point (jump to early, doesn't get a foot in bounds) he doesn't make that play.

Leonhall

October 2nd, 2016 at 1:37 PM ^

Not even close! Are you shitting me? Woodson had like an 80 foot vertical, caught a pass that was like 10 feet from him in mid air, no less, all while keeping his foot inbounds! Great job JL, but not even in the same universe as Woodson's!



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Mr. Elbel

October 2nd, 2016 at 3:10 PM ^

because jourdan didn't jump far or catch it in mid-air. he also came down sideways as opposed to on his feet, which makes holding on that much harder. They're closer than you think they are, and should we win the NC this year I think the play elevates itself to woodson's level.

Baugh so hard

October 2nd, 2016 at 1:43 PM ^

I think many people here are discounting the higher difficulty of JD's play though. He has to do this while trailing a defender he needs to not interfere with and also track the ball at a very difficult angle. Also, if he doesn't at least get a break-up on that it might be a tie game.

Both plays are also perfect examples of the way each player plays physically.

snarling wolverine

October 2nd, 2016 at 1:54 PM ^

Both are incredible plays and it's nitpicking to do this, but I don't think Lewis's is quite as difficult as Woodson's.  What makes his slightly easier is that he has a longer amount of time to get under the ball and does not have to worry about his feet.   Woodson's is a pure reaction play on a short throw intended to be uncatchable, followed by a fantastic acrobatic move to get that foot down.  But they're both legendary, signature plays.

 

 

Gr1mlock

October 2nd, 2016 at 2:05 PM ^

Woodson. Bigger game, better play situationally. Lewis's is possibly an objectively better catch in a a vacuum (not 100% sure on that), but Woodson's was a better overall play in context.



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