OT-Game of Thrones S6 E5
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Hold the door, whichever.
is it a spoiler if no one knows it is a spoiler?
That scene got me.
I have read all the books and watched every episode until now without shedding a tear. That record is now broken. That was truly gut wrenching...
Like you, I've read all and still was not really prepared for the intensity of that scene.
The comparison to Rutgers is re-inforced.
After everyone Martin has killed in these stories how do people not realize that Ramsay is going to be the new ruler of Westeros by the end? Prove me wrong.
I'm putting my money on Littlefinger at the moment.
A machiavellian genius would be so much better than a sadist at least. The 7 kingdoms has already had one mad king.
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Tywin definitely would've ruled with an iron fist but he also knew when to put on the velvet glove. I loved the scene when he sent Joffrey to bed without his supper, "Grand Maester, perhaps some essence of nightshade to help him sleep." Classic!
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The only problem with Tywin is that he didn't give much credence to the threat beyond the wall, which I think is really the biggest threat with winter coming.
Probably any southerner would think the same, though. Only the north remembers, but the White Walkers haven't come south in centuries(?), so that they have become merely monsters in tales used to scare the young.
IIRC even Tyrion blew them off. But... Tywin was a guy who was good on his feet with dealing with new threats. I'd like to think he would realize the issue before the walkers were walking over moat cailin. But who knows.
I didn't think the Children would go down so easily to the walkers. I think the only answer to them will be the dragons. But they seem just one step down from feral.
Doubt the Children are gone -- Meera will need some help getting south. Benjen Stark is the most likely candidate, but the Children could also be involved, especially if he's been living with them all this time.
But it's also possible that was the last of the Children, driven to extinction by their own creation. If so, it (the origin story of the White Walkers and its consequences) is probably a major thread in the next book.
Imagine if Jon, Tyrion, and dany ride dragons to save the world only to win and die for their efforts... Then Littlefinger marries Sansa and rules the 7 kingdoms.... that would be the ultimate bittersweet ending. lol
Sansa and Littlefinger? No way in hell. Now that Sansa has apparently grown a pair - she would be more likely to behead him than betrothe him.
I know must of you are rooting for Tyrion as one of the dragon riders but I thought it was a forgone conclusion that Bran would lead one of the dragons (Drogon?) into the final battle. What is greater than him walking again? Flying.
And of course Jon Snow and Dany will be the others.
But could Bran warg into a dragon and control it?
and characters are always done in by their unforced errors. Ned, Cat, Robb, Joffrey, Tywin, all of them. Ramsay makes unforced errors every time he appears on the page. For some reason, the show's creators have chosen to show him as an evil genius instead of an evil idiot, but if he ends up as ruler of anything it won't be because of any of Martin's input.
Ned, Cat, Robb, Joffrey, Tywin ...
One of these is not like the others.
In the books Ramsay is most certainly not an idiot. Cruel, torturous, and reckless yes. But not an idiot. He switched places with Reek when captured by Rodrik so Reek was murdered for his (Ramsay's) crimes. He convinces Theon to release him and orchestrated the switching of the farmboys to represent the younger dead Stark boys. He flayed, tortured, and *ahem* amputates part of Theon eventually cowing Theon to Ramsay's every demand. He is a son of Roose Bolton and has definitely inherited his cunning.
I'll give him cunning, but he has zero ability or inclination to see the big picture or think long term. If he had even ignored Jeyne Poole instead of abusing her, she wouldn't have been inclined to flee and he would have been able to convince people that Arya Stark consented to marry him. Likewise if he had treated Theon the way the Starks did after they captured him, he might not have been inclined to help Jeyne escape. Theon only betrayed the Starks after Robb sent him by himself to the Iron Islands, where he was surrounded by Greyjoy loyalists.
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Would do against the White Walkers...
Since dragon glass is one of the two things we know can kill them. So it stands to reason that dragon fire would bbq the walkers.
I dunno. Can you BBQ something that's so cold? I think they might start to melt then shatter.
to walk through fire last night, i have a feeling the dragons would decimate them. Also the only way to stop a dead man from turning white is to burn the corpse.
The fire went out when they got near, then came back.
to walk through fire last night, i have a feeling the dragons would decimate them. Also the only way to stop a dead man from turning white is to burn the corpse.
I would put money on Ramsay being Azor Ahai.
For those that aren't aware, this episode was accidentally released for a couple hours last night in Norway so it's available online. So if you don't have HBO or want to watch it sooner you can, and if you are planning to watch it live tonight be careful about spoilers.
Link or it didn't happen.
http://www.theverge.com/2016/5/22/11735766/game-of-thrones-leak-hbo-nor…
Not linking to streaming or torrent sites here but not too hard to find with google.
The article within that link about the most pirated shows is pretty interesting to me - I didn't really think about how pirated Game Of Thrones really truly is until they laid out the numbers in that piece, even at a high level. It might very well explain why my one of my in-laws has every episode on DVDs with handwritten labels yet doesn't have cable, I will put it that way.
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Victarion. And Damphair is there, he's the one who was did Euron's baptism (which is just a little off from the books).
Aeron Damphair is there, but I don't know if we've ever been introduced to him as Damphair in the show. He gets a decent amount of time in the books, but all we've seen from him in the show is priest stuff. No name or relations mentioned as far as I can remember.
FWIW, his imdb page lists him as Aeron.
She still needs ships.